canucklefan Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 3-2 loss against Colombus but nice debut for Gerba. I'd love to see Gala but it didn't happen and defense played like crap thanks to Velez and Garcia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 Wynne made a nice play on the first goal, but didn't help matters at the back either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whither Canada Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 Velez must go. Beaten badly (again) on the tying goal. This team will go nowhere as long as he's on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag futbol Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 ^ He's really only a depth player for this team. As far as MLS goes, i don't think he's much better or worse than most (not saying he played well, just that he's the level of guy you'll get for an MLS backup). Now Nick Garcia on the other hand ... Did Mo just not bother what him suck in SJ all year prior to trading for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbailey62 Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Whither Canada Velez must go. Beaten badly (again) on the tying goal. This team will go nowhere as long as he's on it. Who was it that was badly beaten on the winning goal? Should we get rid of him too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Whither Canada Velez must go. Beaten badly (again) on the tying goal. This team will go nowhere as long as he's on it. Well chalk down this loss in part to the River Plate match. The only reason Velez was in the line-up is because of the injury to Nana in that game(and then Guevara in this one). He did cost them one goal, although I think Wynne was supposed to be marking the guy who popped in the winner. Having said all that, I think TFC got away with what should have been a PK against them in the first half, so they were unlucky to lose in some ways not so unlucky in others. Spoilt a nice debut performance by Gerba and DeRo I believe breaking the record for most goals by a TFC players in one MLS season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Whither Canada Velez must go. Beaten badly (again) on the tying goal. This team will go nowhere as long as he's on it. Well chalk down this loss in part to the River Plate match. The only reason Velez was in the line-up is because of the injury to Nana in that game(and then Guevara in this one). He did cost them one goal, although I think Wynne was supposed to be marking the guy who popped in the winner. Having said all that, I think TFC got away with what should have been a PK against them in the first half, so they were unlucky to lose in some ways not so unlucky in others. Spoilt a nice debut performance by Gerba and DeRo I believe breaking the record for most goals by a TFC players in one MLS season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmcmurph Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 Sign Wesley Charles. A solid stay at home CB defender, good feet and very good in the air (where you are getting beaten a lot). Too bad about the result. I was hoping TFC could steal 3. Good to see Dero and Gerba both scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guppy Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 Velez and Garcia are like two snails... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 quote:Originally posted by dbailey62 Who was it that was badly beaten on the winning goal? Should we get rid of him too? Garcia? Hell, I would. Horrible defending. Man, Colombus has just owned Toronto since birth. Got to find the potion to fix that jinx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 Glad to see Gerba get his TFC career off to a good start with he and Barrett combining to punish that Crew mistake. Nice run and cross by Wynne on the first, but that was a slick, first time layoff (at least I think it was planned?) by Vitti to a wide open DeRosario. Sadly, the team was undermined by poor defending on all three goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whither Canada Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 quote:Originally posted by dbailey62 Who was it that was badly beaten on the winning goal? Should we get rid of him too? The thing is, it's not exactly the first time that Velez has been skinned, is it? How many points has he cost his team? The guy's crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bettermirror Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 Velez is SHOCKING! That goal was a great cross, but where was the marking? I'd be giving them the hair-dryer treatment for absolutely certain!!!! He's GOT TO GO. Maybe TFC should try and bring in Richard Hastings for Canadian content? Not that they could pay him what he is getting right now, I suppose. I bet Robinson would be a superior option at CB to Velez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bettermirror Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 I should add....Garcia is equally as shocking. They have no prayer in CCL or MLS playoffs with those 2. Great for Gerba!!! A good good performance from a debut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 Am I alone who think Serioux play on the first goal was shocking trying a desperate tackle when he could've tried to stay with the man? Good to see Ali scoring! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 quote:Originally posted by loyola Am I alone who think Serioux play on the first goal was shocking trying a desperate tackle when he could've tried to stay with the man? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 quote:Originally posted by loyola Am I alone who think Serioux play on the first goal was shocking trying a desperate tackle when he could've tried to stay with the man? Agreed, but I think he gambled on the basis of a lack of physical fitness on his part (and playing out of position). With Cronin back the next game TFC need to go back to a Wynne, Garcia, Serioux, Brennan back four and put Cronin back in midfield instead of Brennan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcisoul Posted July 26, 2009 Share Posted July 26, 2009 with Columbus not having so many of their key players was TFC's game to lose and they did just that. Columbus were missing Guillermo Barros Schelotto, Alejandro Moreno, Chad Marshall and Robbie Rogers. Something has to be done with the defense on this team but im not saying anything new. It just seems as tho tfc gives up easy goals no matter who plays. One player will play great one game then then next they will make a big error. I know people are not perfect but with the win they would have been tied for 1st instead of being in 4th place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 quote:Originally posted by guppy Velez and Garcia are like two snails... Everyone else seems to be able to see that so why did Cummins think he would be able to get away with it? He could have tried something radical and put Marvel Wynne at centre half and if he had to use Velez use him at right back. I'm not sure Serioux and Garcia is a much better option than Garcia and Velez at the moment given Serioux appears to be playing through injury. It will be interesting to see what Cummins does against the Islanders. Beyond that one issue, I thought it was a promising performance in terms of playing a possession style at a lower tempo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 quote:Originally posted by BringBackTheBlizzard Everyone else seems to be able to see that so why did Cummins think he would be able to get away with it? He could have tried something radical and put Marvel Wynne at centre half and if he had to use Velez use him at right back. I'm not sure Serioux and Garcia is a much better option than Garcia and Velez at the moment given Serioux appears to be playing through injury. It will be interesting to see what Cummins does against the Islanders. Beyond that one issue, I thought it was a promising performance in terms of playing a possession style at a lower tempo. It was suggested on another forum that maybe TFC needs to go back to two holding mids in Cronin and Robinson to provide a better shield in front of the back four, than go with any three of DeRo, Vitti, Guevara, and Barrett supporting Gerba. Not sure what Guevara's injury situation is but Serioux seems to be labouring and not as effective as he was at the beginning of the season so he could probably use a little longer rest, but I'm not sure that's going to happen this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Definitely an option but Cronin to me is better suited to the beginning and end of the season when a high tempo style is the order of the day. Not sure he should be added to Wynne and Brennan in that regard. The problem is that the depth isn't really there at the moment. Time to add a player or two to replace some of those who have been cleared out of late, which is probably why patience is running out with JDG:- http://my.thescore.com/footyblog/archive/2009/07/26/22051.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bingham Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 On the third goal Marvell Wynne was miles behind the play on the far post. All focus is on his speed but he is a poor defender in my opinion. The whole defence is shakey. Brennan should have been left at full back and Gala(who had a good game against River Plate) should have played in front of him. DeRo played too deep he has to get closer to Gerba if we are to be successful up front. I see DeRo playing a "Rooney" role, coming wide on the left linking with Gerba. Gerba is what he is though, a pure goal poacher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 quote:Originally posted by bingham On the third goal Marvell Wynne was miles behind the play on the far post. All focus is on his speed but he is a poor defender in my opinion. The whole defence is shakey. Brennan should have been left at full back and Gala(who had a good game against River Plate) should have played in front of him. DeRo played too deep he has to get closer to Gerba if we are to be successful up front. I see DeRo playing a "Rooney" role, coming wide on the left linking with Gerba. Gerba is what he is though, a pure goal poacher. Brennan has always look good in the outside MF roles. Notice that perfect cross to Barrett ( that he should have easily burried) in the game against San Jose. We have seen similar quality crosses while he was playing for the national team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 quote:Originally posted by BringBackTheBlizzard I'm not sure Serioux and Garcia is a much better option than Garcia and Velez at the moment given Serioux appears to be playing through injury. Serioux is most definitely playing with a variety of injuries. His play has dropped off considerably in the last 4-6 weeks after he was easily the best player on the team in the 1st month or so. This team is a disaster at the back. Serioux is serviceable. The other 3 (that includes Brennan) are a liability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted July 27, 2009 Share Posted July 27, 2009 Toronto FC scoring breakdown this season: http://www.thestar.com/sports/soccer/article/672187 A stoppage-time goal in Columbus Saturday night made for the seventh time this season that Toronto FC has given up a late score that cost points. A look at TFC's scoring differential (+/-) by interval: -1: 1-15 minutes -4: 16-30 minutes +1: 31-45+ minutes +3: 46-60 minutes +6: 61-75 minutes -8: 76-90+ minutes Not only giving up late goals, but not scoring too many goals late in the match either... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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