Complete Homer Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 11 hours ago, toontownman said: https://www.tsn.ca/radio/montreal-690/clanachan-we-are-going-to-create-a-professional-soccer-economy-1.972475 League launching in April 2018. Impressive they moved the start up a year. Confirms that no other CFL teams will be owners too Gopherbashi and toontownman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 32 minutes ago, Complete Homer said: Confirms that no other CFL teams will be owners too I’m hoping that this is in reference to potential new teams, with Ottawa already being confirmed. Otherwise that would be severely disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Complete Homer Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, BuzzAndSting said: I’m hoping that this is in reference to potential new teams, with Ottawa already being confirmed. Otherwise that would be severely disappointing. I'll try to listen again later on, it might have been awkward phrasing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Complete Homer said: I'll try to listen again later on, it might have been awkward phrasing I listened to the interview and heard the same statement. He’s not clear in whether he’s talking about “potential ownership groups” or “ownership groups.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickC Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Listened to the Montreal 690 recording once, and here's what I took from it: targeting 10 teams to start in April 2019; since they made the official announcement of the launch they've had more groups come forward to discuss opportunities; no CFL involvement other than HAM/WPG; discussions with groups in Montreal, Quebec City and Sherbrooke; stadium sizes 6-8,000 up to 30,000; potentially four new stadiums being built; explained more about the $500 million number which should be understood within the context of the soccer economy they keep mentioning (player salaries, coaching, admin, ticket purchases, sponsorships, etc) so not purely the owner's investments; more announcements over the next six weeks regarding CPL and even announcing the actual teams; mentioned 15-16 large supporter's groups across the country; Tim Horton's sponsorship for soccer has become bigger than for hockey. I never give as much credence to interviews as I do official press releases, so take the above as still using words like potential, about, approximately, etc. However, it does appear to be coming together nicely. Rheo, HfxCeltic and Gopherbashi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheo Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Just starting to listen to it now but in the category of reading way too much into most likely nothing lol, interesting that both of his radio hits have been with TSN toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheo Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 About the only thing I'd add to the various recaps so far from the TSN interview is he mentioned that new groups have approached since the announcement last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) If this really implies no Ottawa Fury on board in addition to not having FCE, it's difficult to see how they can get anywhere near ten with a viable stadium solution by April 2019 and this current drive for publicity is probably more about attracting additional would be investors at the moment after Paul Beirne's softly softly approach failed to get them off the launch pad in 2018 terms. Edited January 19, 2018 by BringBackTheBlizzard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheo Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 You may be right but you go ahead and believe whatever makes you feel better buddy BuzzAndSting 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 5 hours ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said: It's not at all clear what the other $3.5 million gets spent on in that scenario. There’s coaching, travel, rent, marketing costs, front office, back office, ticketing, game day costs, insurance, office rent. In a TSN article I read that the Niagara IceDogs (let me find it) had a 2.9 million team budget not including player costs. They don’t have a national travel budget so I’d say the size of the organization would be in that neighbourhood. 2.9 million operating, sales and admin costs is pretty leaning you break it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpion26 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, Ansem said: That's cool hopefully they a lot of soccer fans to show up... Anyone near there going? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanSuffer Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Scorpion26 said: That's cool hopefully they a lot of soccer fans to show up... Anyone near there going? I'm going to try to go. Note that the are looking for __small__ focus groups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowsweatygorilla Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Hmm.. branding/marketing company.. I wonder if we'll be getting a sneak preview of the logos and designs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) 11 hours ago, baulderdash77 said: There’s coaching, travel, rent, marketing costs, front office, back office, ticketing, game day costs, insurance, office rent. In a TSN article I read that the Niagara IceDogs (let me find it) had a 2.9 million team budget not including player costs... My guess would be that in addition to the expenses you have mentioned arena related expenditures and game day operations are getting folded into that number rather than rental payments per opening to the stadium/arena owner, which would be how the game day cost would be handled if you are not the stadium operator/owner. On the revenue side of the equation that would mean total turnover on game day operations being factored in rather than the share of the profits on naming rights, concessions, parking etc, if that can be successfully negotiated with the stadium owner, which is no sure thing. Using that sort of approach generates larger more impressive looking numbers but would take things even further from what can sensibly be termed an "investment". Edited January 20, 2018 by BringBackTheBlizzard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpion26 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 11 hours ago, CanSuffer said: I'm going to try to go. Note that the are looking for __small__ focus groups yes but if lots show up would show they're making the right moves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpg_29 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 I feel like if you follow Paul Beirne on Twitter you're going to automatically fall into the 3rd category... Rheo and Alex D 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanSuffer Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Scorpion26 said: yes but if lots show up would show they're making the right moves You have to email them so I'd say it's by invitation. Small groups is more detailed info but less statistically significant... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorpion26 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 1 hour ago, CanSuffer said: You have to email them so I'd say it's by invitation. Small groups is more detailed info but less statistically significant... I get you trying to get those who get invite to push on the message to others and surprise them at meeting... Anyways I am hoping to hear or read mainly read news of teams that will be part of CPL.... This is really coming together and it's a great thing. When I come to Canada to see some family will have to go to the games... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanSuffer Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Scorpion26 said: I get you trying to get those who get invite to push on the message to others and surprise them at meeting... Anyways I am hoping to hear or read mainly read news of teams that will be part of CPL.... This is really coming together and it's a great thing. When I come to Canada to see some family will have to go to the games... No, not what I'm saying. In fact, we should respect their process. I suppose, if we inquire and confirm that they really need one or two more subjects because they haven't met their target, then we could ask if they want us to suggest additional people. I suspect they will get enough interested persons in the "CPL Awareness" category Of course, agree this is awesome to see it become more and more concrete Edited January 20, 2018 by CanSuffer Complete Homer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 10 hours ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said: My guess would be that in addition to the expenses you have mentioned arena related expenditures and game day operations are getting folded into that number rather than rental payments per opening to the stadium/arena owner, which would be how the game day cost would be handled if you are not the stadium operator/owner. On the revenue side of the equation that would mean total turnover on game day operations being factored in rather than the share of the profits on naming rights, concessions, parking etc, if that can be successfully negotiated with the stadium owner, which is no sure thing. Using that sort of approach generates larger more impressive looking numbers but would take things even further from what can sensibly be termed an "investment". I think that’s exatly it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheo Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Hope there isn't an NDA for the participants , curious to see what's they're specifically asking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondJack Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Victoria, Kelowna, Surrey, Edmonton, Calgary, Saskatoon, Regina, Winnipeg, Quebec City, Sherbrooke, Halifax, St Johns, Moncton In ONT -- Mississauga, Brampton, Ottawa, Vaughn, Kitch/Waterloo/Cambridge, Windsor, Hamilton, Burlington/Oakviile, Barrie, St Cath/Niagara, Oshawa/Pickering In relation to population that would be a great 24 team league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheo Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Roy's still in Montreal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rheo said: Roy's still in Montreal Maybe he's having trouble finding an ownership group? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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