Gopherbashi Posted April 16, 2017 Author Share Posted April 16, 2017 Alright, so looks like we've got 25 teams - 13 in Ontario, 10.5 in the rest of Canada, 1 in San Francisco, and 0.5 in Denmark. I'll put a dummy team in there to kick it up to an even 26 (Nanaimo Barre FC), and anyone who's late to the party can take that team over. I can post matches every weekend except October 14th (I'll be out of the country, uh, surveying overseas expansion opportunities). There's 25 weeks between now and then - a perfect number for a single match between each club. If we wanted a season-end playoff, we could start them when I get back, and we could fit in three two-leg aggregate series by the end of November (ie. 8 teams make the playoffs, with a quarterfinal, semifinal, and final). Option A - Single-table with a single match between each team, with the top eight teams making a three-round, two-legged playoff. The other option is to split the league either vertically (DRFL First Division & DRFL Second Division) or horizontally (DRFL Ontario Conference & DRFL Rest of Canada Conference). Teams in each group would have two matches against each other (home-and-away), but wouldn't face the other group until the playoffs. Option B - Two divisions (first and second) with a home-and-away series between each team in the same division. Places in the first division would be determined by largest city size (6 places) and random draw (8 places). Teams in opposite divisions would not meet until the playoffs. There would not be any form of pro/rel, though some second-division teams would qualify for the playoffs. Option C - Two conferences (Ontario & ROC) with a home-and-away series between each team in the same conference. Teams in opposite conferences would not meet until the playoffs. The last option (which will please the purists out there) is a true pyramid setup with pro/rel and both spring & fall seasons. It would have an 8-team first division, with two 8- or 9-team divisions underneath it (Second Division West & Second Division East). At the end of a short 14-week spring season, the top four teams in the first division would have a playoff for the season championship, while some of the others (#5-8 of first division, #1-2 of each second division) would have a playoff for promotion & relegation. Then we do the same thing for a fall season. Option D - Pyramid style (1 first division & 2 second divisions) with a home-and-away series between each team in the same division. Separate spring & fall seasons rather than a year-long season. Initial places in the first division would be determined by largest city size (4 places) and random draw (4 places). Teams in opposite divisions would not meet until the playoffs. Pro/rel would exist in end-of-season playoffs. Let me know which option you'd like by Monday, April 17th at 9 PM ET (approx 48 hours after this post). I might make minor detail changes depending on what the responses are like. If you're really opposed to a season-ending playoff and would just rather have the season table decide things, post that as well, but I think that week I'm away gives us a perfect pre-playoffs break. I'll decide what to do with the Voyageurs' Cup once we know what this league looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRM Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 I'll go for the single table but whatever is easiest for you works for me as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob.notenboom Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Too many options. Just tell me what to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Same. Let me know when I can draft Larin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazlo_80 Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 i defer to the masses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeAgent Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 I like the pro/rel idea but would prefer a during season Cup instead of Playoffs (except for pro/rel end of season).. Option A (DRFL First Division/Second Division pro/rel) with a during the year Cup and Playoffs at the end for pro/rel would be perfect IMO. Not a fan of split season (Spring/Fall). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiKu Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 I will take the Nanaimo spot - and since I am from BC that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiKu Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 just selecting the reply notification to on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rintaran Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 My preferences are Option D & Option A (in that order), but I'm not married to any of them. I know my team, Porcupine Gold Rush FC, is not likely to be in the 1st division, but I don't really care about that. Whatever is easier for you to program is good. Another crazy possibility would be 3 divisions and with some sort of a dreaded-hex style playoff. I think that would be horrific and awesome at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coppercanuck Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I think I like the Option A first but if the league is too big, Option D look cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Schlodder Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I like option D with the two split seasons and having 1st and 2nd east/west divisions with pro and rel involved. It would be actually closer to a purist situation (which I am a real fan of). I know my club Trail & Castlegar FC will not be in the first division due to population. But I'm happy with that as I am excited in winning a lower division title or play-off final to get promoted to the top. Looking forward to that windfall. This is my vote but if something else gets voted in I will still participate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rheo Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I'm easy, whatever the majority goes with. Really looking forward to this though. Thanks a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiKu Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 good with however the league is set up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grande Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I like the idea of having a cup (as FreeAgent said), and prefer a single table (Option A I guess), but as others have said, I'm happy with anything. Gopherbashi, is your code available anywhere? I'd love to have a look! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted April 17, 2017 Author Share Posted April 17, 2017 A separate cup might be difficult to fit in if we're including the Voyageurs' Cup as well. Not impossible, mind you, but there'd be mid-week matches pretty well every week (provided we did two-legged ties, which would be more fun but isn't written in stone). The advantage I see with shorter spring/fall seasons rather than a longer full-year season is that the hope of a new season might keep people engaged if they get stuck in the bottom of the standings, and it becomes easier to cull any teams that are abandoned by their owners. I'm not horribly attached to it and realise it makes things somewhat complicated and a bit less glamourous, but there are some practical advantages to it. I think I might have just brainstormed a little idea that might keep everyone happy - I need to make sure it will actually work so I'm not gonna provide details until probably tomorrow, but if you want a hint: I took inspiration from the Toronto Wolfpack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grande Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Oh, I missed the note about the Voyageurs Cup... In that case, we probably don't need a separate League Cup. I think I know where you're going with that Wolfpack reference, and I like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnyb Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 I like Single table but after reading all options and comments i'm good with whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted April 17, 2017 Author Share Posted April 17, 2017 and in testing news; Hamilton with the best goal-line defense ever: 4:00 - HFX CORNER KICK: 35 yard cross pass SUCCESSFUL (0 yards from opposing goal line, 0 yards off-centre near side) 4:05 - HFX 0 yard HEADER ON TARGET - BLOCKED - RECOVERED BY DEFENSE (out behind own goal line) Sadly for them, Halifax would get even on the ensuing play: 4:45 - HFX CORNER KICK: 28 yard cross pass SUCCESSFUL (10 yards from opposing goal line, 9 yards off-centre near side) 4:50 - HFX 14 yard SHOT ON TARGET - GOAL - HFX 1 HAM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Style Pilsner1555362318 Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Wouldn't mind the Pro/Rel option. But I'm open to whichever is easiest/the majority decides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeAgent Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 Oh I missed the part about the Voyageurs Cup too lol. In that case forget what I said and I'm good for whatever. Option D is fine with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 Alright, here's how the season going to work: We're going to have a full-year season (April 22 - Oct 07), though that season will be divided into two parts. As a result, I've upped the total number of teams to 28 (Hamilton & Halifax have been added and are free for the taking). The first part will have four divisions of seven teams each, divided geographically, with each team playing a home-and-away against each other team in their division. 12 games and 2 bye weeks, over 12 weekend and 2 midweek dates. At the end of this first part of the season, the league will be re-shuffled based on results. The top two teams from each division will be placed into the top division (DRFL1), while the remaining 20 teams will be divided into two divisions of 10 teams each (once again divided geographically - DRFL2 West and DRFL2 East). I'm intending for the first-phase standings to carry over into this second phase, but that's not written in stone. For the second phase - the eight teams in the top division will play a home-and-away against each other, giving 14 matches over 13 weekend and 1 midweek dates. I currently have the second division teams doing the same thing, giving 13 weekend and 5 midweek dates, but I might change that as I'd really like to avoid that many midweek dates. In terms of a cup competition - since teams will be entered into the Voyageur's Cup, I'm not going to have a separate DRFL Cup. 64 teams will gain entry into the Voyageurs' Cup - 3 MLS, FCE, OFFC, 28 DRFL, 16 L1O, 7 PLSQ, 6 PDL, and the two finalists from the Challenge Trophy. All teams will enter in the first round. This is a straight-up no-byes elimination tournament. The Round of 64 and the Round of 32 will be single-legged matches, hosted by the higher-ranked team. All rounds after that will be two-game aggregate. All matches will be mid-week; the first ones will take place Tuesday, April 25th. Our Voyageurs' Cup will end on the same day as the real one - June 27th. The only question from here is playoffs - at a minimum, we'll have pro/rel playoffs between the bottom four first-division teams and the top four second-division teams. Ideally I'd like to keep those second-division teams in the hunt for a title. There's really three playoff options available: No playoffs - the top first-division team wins it all. 4-team playoffs - the top four first-division teams compete for the playoff championship. 8-team playoffs - the four pro/rel winners join the top four first-division teams for an eight-team playoff. My preference is the third option but I'm not particularly married to any of them - I know some would like to avoid title playoffs altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 The four initial divisions are as follows. EXPAT FC will have to move their barge to the east coast, and Winnipeg gets shafted by being "eastern" Canada for some reason. Canada West: Red Star Red Deer (shermanator) AFC Medicine Hat Mad Hatters FC (Duane Rollins) Inter Regina (rob.notenboom) Trail & Castlegar FC - Trail, BC (Michael Schlodder) Saskatoon Athletic FC (Tuscan) Hobema Hosers - Maskwacis, AB (TRM) Nanaimo Barre FC (ThiKu) April 22 BYE - Red Star Red Deer AFC Medicine Hat Mad Hatters FC @ Hobema Hosers Nanaimo Barre FC @ Saskatoon Athletic FC Inter Regina @ Trail & Castlegar FC April 29 Red Star Red Deer @ AFC Medicine Hat Mad Hatters FC Nanaimo Barre FC @ Hobema Hosers Inter Regina @ Saskatoon Athletic FC BYE - Trail & Castlegar FC May 6 Red Star Red Deer @ Nanaimo Barre FC BYE - AFC Medicine Hat Mad Hatters FC Inter Regina @ Hobema Hosers Trail & Castlegar FC @ Saskatoon Athletic FC May 13 Red Star Red Deer @ Inter Regina AFC Medicine Hat Mad Hatters FC @ Nanaimo Barre FC Trail & Castlegar FC @ Hobema Hosers BYE - Saskatoon Athletic FC May 20 Red Star Red Deer @ Trail & Castlegar FC AFC Medicine Hat Mad Hatters FC @ Inter Regina BYE - Nanaimo Barre FC Saskatoon Athletic FC @ Hobema Hosers May 27 Red Star Red Deer @ Saskatoon Athletic FC AFC Medicine Hat Mad Hatters FC @ Trail & Castlegar FC Nanaimo Barre FC @ Inter Regina BYE - Hobema Hosers June 3 Red Star Red Deer @ Hobema Hosers AFC Medicine Hat Mad Hatters FC @ Saskatoon Athletic FC Nanaimo Barre FC @ Trail & Castlegar FC BYE - Inter Regina June 6 (any teams participating in the Voyageurs' Cup on this date will play on July 11th instead) BYE - Red Star Red Deer Hobema Hosers @ AFC Medicine Hat Mad Hatters FC Saskatoon Athletic FC @ Nanaimo Barre FC Trail & Castlegar FC @ Inter Regina June 10 AFC Medicine Hat Mad Hatters FC @ Red Star Red Deer Hobema Hosers @ Nanaimo Barre FC Saskatoon Athletic FC @ Inter Regina BYE - Trail & Castlegar FC June 17 Nanaimo Barre FC @ Red Star Red Deer BYE - AFC Medicine Hat Mad Hatters FC Hobema Hosers @ Inter Regina Saskatoon Athletic FC @ Trail & Castlegar FC June 24 Inter Regina @ Red Star Red Deer Nanaimo Barre FC @ AFC Medicine Hat Mad Hatters FC Hobema Hosers @ Trail & Castlegar FC BYE - Saskatoon Athletic FC July 1 Trail & Castlegar FC @ Red Star Red Deer Inter Regina @ AFC Medicine Hat Mad Hatters FC BYE - Nanaimo Barre FC Hobema Hosers @ Saskatoon Athletic FC July 4 Saskatoon Athletic FC @ Red Star Red Deer Trail & Castlegar FC @ AFC Medicine Hat Mad Hatters FC Inter Regina @ Nanaimo Barre FC BYE - Hobema Hosers July 8 Hobema Hosers @ Red Star Red Deer Saskatoon Athletic FC @ AFC Medicine Hat Mad Hatters FC Trail & Castlegar FC @ Nanaimo Barre FC BYE - Inter Regina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatest Cockney Rip Off Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 11 minutes ago, Gopherbashi said: Alright, here's how the season going to work: We're going to have a full-year season (April 22 - Oct 07), though that season will be divided into two parts. As a result, I've upped the total number of teams to 28 (Hamilton & Halifax have been added and are free for the taking). The first part will have four divisions of seven teams each, divided geographically, with each team playing a home-and-away against each other team in their division. 12 games and 2 bye weeks, over 12 weekend and 2 midweek dates. At the end of this first part of the season, the league will be re-shuffled based on results. The top two teams from each division will be placed into the top division (DRFL1), while the remaining 20 teams will be divided into two divisions of 10 teams each (once again divided geographically - DRFL2 West and DRFL2 East). I'm intending for the first-phase standings to carry over into this second phase, but that's not written in stone. For the second phase - the eight teams in the top division will play a home-and-away against each other, giving 14 matches over 13 weekend and 1 midweek dates. I currently have the second division teams doing the same thing, giving 13 weekend and 5 midweek dates, but I might change that as I'd really like to avoid that many midweek dates. In terms of a cup competition - since teams will be entered into the Voyageur's Cup, I'm not going to have a separate DRFL Cup. 64 teams will gain entry into the Voyageurs' Cup - 3 MLS, FCE, OFFC, 28 DRFL, 16 L1O, 7 PLSQ, 6 PDL, and the two finalists from the Challenge Trophy. All teams will enter in the first round. This is a straight-up no-byes elimination tournament. The Round of 64 and the Round of 32 will be single-legged matches, hosted by the higher-ranked team. All rounds after that will be two-game aggregate. All matches will be mid-week; the first ones will take place Tuesday, April 25th. Our Voyageurs' Cup will end on the same day as the real one - June 27th. The only question from here is playoffs - at a minimum, we'll have pro/rel playoffs between the bottom four first-division teams and the top four second-division teams. Ideally I'd like to keep those second-division teams in the hunt for a title. There's really three playoff options available: No playoffs - the top first-division team wins it all. 4-team playoffs - the top four first-division teams compete for the playoff championship. 8-team playoffs - the four pro/rel winners join the top four first-division teams for an eight-team playoff. My preference is the third option but I'm not particularly married to any of them - I know some would like to avoid title playoffs altogether. Can you make the cup a single match instead of two legs? Gives a better opportunity for upsets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 Ontario West: Binbrook Buccaneers - Hamilton (grande) Windsor Rum Runners (Rheo) Breithaupt Park AC - Kitchener (welltoldtales) Farmers FC - Waterloo (FarmersFC) SC Chatham Corn Stars (Alex D) London Knights FC (Dominic94) Hamilton Steelers FC April 22 BYE - Binbrook Buccaneers Windsor Rum Runners @ Hamilton Steelers FC Breithaupt Park AC @ London Knights FC Farmers FC @ SC Chatham Corn Stars April 29 Binbrook Buccaneers @ Windsor Rum Runners Breithaupt Park AC @ Hamilton Steelers FC Farmers FC @ London Knights FC BYE - SC Chatham Corn Stars May 6 Binbrook Buccaneers @ Breithaupt Park AC BYE - Windsor Rum Runners Farmers FC @ Hamilton Steelers FC SC Chatham Corn Stars @ London Knights FC May 13 Binbrook Buccaneers @ Farmers FC Windsor Rum Runners @ Breithaupt Park AC SC Chatham Corn Stars @ Hamilton Steelers FC BYE - London Knights FC May 20 Binbrook Buccaneers @ SC Chatham Corn Stars Windsor Rum Runners @ Farmers FC BYE - Breithaupt Park AC London Knights FC @ Hamilton Steelers FC May 27 Binbrook Buccaneers @ London Knights FC Windsor Rum Runners @ SC Chatham Corn Stars Breithaupt Park AC @ Farmers FC BYE - Hamilton Steelers FC June 3 Binbrook Buccaneers @ Hamilton Steelers FC Windsor Rum Runners @ London Knights FC Breithaupt Park AC @ SC Chatham Corn Stars BYE - Farmers FC June 6 (any teams participating in the Voyageurs' Cup on this date will play on July 11th instead) BYE - Binbrook Buccaneers Hamilton Steelers FC @ Windsor Rum Runners London Knights FC @ Breithaupt Park AC SC Chatham Corn Stars @ Farmers FC June 10 Windsor Rum Runners @ Binbrook Buccaneers Hamilton Steelers FC @ Breithaupt Park AC London Knights FC @ Farmers FC BYE - SC Chatham Corn Stars June 17 Breithaupt Park AC @ Binbrook Buccaneers BYE - Windsor Rum Runners Hamilton Steelers FC @ Farmers FC London Knights FC @ SC Chatham Corn Stars June 24 Farmers FC @ Binbrook Buccaneers Breithaupt Park AC @ Windsor Rum Runners Hamilton Steelers FC @ SC Chatham Corn Stars BYE - London Knights FC July 1 SC Chatham Corn Stars @ Binbrook Buccaneers Farmers FC @ Windsor Rum Runners BYE - Breithaupt Park AC Hamilton Steelers FC @ London Knights FC July 4 London Knights FC @ Binbrook Buccaneers SC Chatham Corn Stars @ Windsor Rum Runners Farmers FC @ Breithaupt Park AC BYE - Hamilton Steelers FC July 8 Hamilton Steelers FC @ Binbrook Buccaneers London Knights FC @ Windsor Rum Runners SC Chatham Corn Stars @ Breithaupt Park AC BYE - Farmers FC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 Ontario East: Scarborough FC (FreeAgent) D.R. Legion FC - Durham (Jahinho Guerro) Porcupine Gold Rush FC - Timmins (Rintarin) North York FC (yellowsweatygorilla) York Lions FC - York University (DannyFromToronto23) Racing Club de Espanola (Old Style Pilsner) Beaverton FC (Greatest Cockney Rip Off) April 22 BYE - Scarborough FC D.R. Legion FC @ Beaverton FC Porcupine Gold Rush FC @ Racing Club de Espanola North York FC @ York Lions FC April 29 Scarborough FC @ D.R. Legion FC Porcupine Gold Rush FC @ Beaverton FC North York FC @ Racing Club de Espanola BYE - York Lions FC May 6 Scarborough FC @ Porcupine Gold Rush FC BYE - D.R. Legion FC North York FC @ Beaverton FC York Lions FC @ Racing Club de Espanola May 13 Scarborough FC @ North York FC D.R. Legion FC @ Porcupine Gold Rush FC York Lions FC @ Beaverton FC BYE - Racing Club de Espanola May 20 Scarborough FC @ York Lions FC D.R. Legion FC @ North York FC BYE - Porcupine Gold Rush FC Racing Club de Espanola @ Beaverton FC May 27 Scarborough FC @ Racing Club de Espanola D.R. Legion FC @ York Lions FC Porcupine Gold Rush FC @ North York FC BYE - Beaverton FC June 3 Scarborough FC @ Beaverton FC D.R. Legion FC @ Racing Club de Espanola Porcupine Gold Rush FC @ York Lions FC BYE - North York FC June 6 (any teams participating in the Voyageurs' Cup on this date will play on July 11th instead) BYE - Scarborough FC Beaverton FC @ D.R. Legion FC Racing Club de Espanola @ Porcupine Gold Rush FC York Lions FC @ North York FC June 10 D.R. Legion FC @ Scarborough FC Beaverton FC @ Porcupine Gold Rush FC Racing Club de Espanola @ North York FC BYE - York Lions FC June 17 Porcupine Gold Rush FC @ Scarborough FC BYE - D.R. Legion FC Beaverton FC @ North York FC Racing Club de Espanola @ York Lions FC June 24 North York FC @ Scarborough FC Porcupine Gold Rush FC @ D.R. Legion FC Beaverton FC @ York Lions FC BYE - Racing Club de Espanola July 1 York Lions FC @ Scarborough FC North York FC @ D.R. Legion FC BYE - Porcupine Gold Rush FC Beaverton FC @ Racing Club de Espanola July 4 Racing Club de Espanola @ Scarborough FC York Lions FC @ D.R. Legion FC North York FC @ Porcupine Gold Rush FC BYE - Beaverton FC July 8 Beaverton FC @ Scarborough FC Racing Club de Espanola @ D.R. Legion FC York Lions FC @ Porcupine Gold Rush FC BYE - North York FC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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