masster Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 That site is from Minnesota and is well respected, but I think this article is off. They say that New York is one of the 4 teams left in NASL one sentence after saying that they have ceased operations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 1 minute ago, masster said: That site is from Minnesota and is well respected, but I think this article is off. They say that New York is one of the 4 teams left in NASL one sentence after saying that they have ceased operations. Yea, I'm guessing it's a mix-up on the part of the writer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 12 minutes ago, matty said: It’s expected that FC Edmonton will join the prospective Canadian Premier League in 2018, which the other three teams have major questions about their immediate futures. What are the owner's net worth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 7 minutes ago, Ansem said: What are the owner's net worth? I'm guessing the Faths are worth well over the $20m needed for NASL but doubt they're worth more than $100m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 4 minutes ago, matty said: I'm guessing Tom Fath is worth well over the $20m needed for NASL but doubt he's worth more than $100m Then I'd pin him as doubtful for CPL and it would explain why he was so adamant on NASL and sort of negative towards CPL. Requirements might be too high for him on his own, mind you he could find partners to co-invest in a CPL team. Crossing fingers for Edmonton Oilers being involved at some point, or any oil company group/owners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Think I have seen $100 million as his net worth somewhere. The reason he was so adamant on the NASL was probably that he owned a large portion of the leagues class B shares and stood to gain from future expansion fees. Given he must have had some inkling this was about to happen and just signed Colin Miller to a three year contract extension, hopefully they will be in USL this summer. It's never good to see a Canadian pro team stop playing and we already appear to be losing FC Montreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tovan1 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 The way I see it, affiliating with the IMFC is a convenient way for OFFC to get around the moratorium on any new independent NASL, USL, PDL franchises in Canada and for IMFC to offload Montreal FC as its days were numbered. Whether it's temporary or not is another question... It could be a way to keep OFFC playing in 2017 and join the CPL in 2018/19. IMFC could then find an American USL team to partner with after 2018/19 to meet MLS requirements to either affiliate with or own a USL team; or As it was mentioned above it could be that USL is where OFFC want to be and another group would come in with a new CPL team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 11 minutes ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said: Think I have seen $100 million as his net worth somewhere. The reason he was so adamant on the NASL was probably that he owned a large portion of the leagues class B shares and stood to gain from future expansion fees. Given he must have had some inkling this was about to happen and just signed Colin Miller to a three year contract extension, hopefully they will be in USL this summer. It's never good to see a Canadian pro team stop playing and we already appear to be losing FC Montreal. Perhaps I should be posting this in the other threads but FC Montreal no longer playing in USL doesn't surprise me. With USL going after D2 sanction, FC Montreal doesn't fit in USL plans in terms of requirements. However, FC Montreal should have been move to the PLSQ D3 league (which could be the their plan). OFFC makes much more sense for Montreal than FC Montreal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 MLS teams are required to have a USL affiliate, as far as I am aware. The obvious explanation is that this is about cutting costs for both the Impact and the Fury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Makes total sense. Hoping FC Montreal is relegated to PLSQ now that Quebec Dynamo is set to join it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Or, alternatively and as much as it contradicts our current dogma, OFFC will be joining CPL as an MLS affiliate, but "won't be called a B team" (which I believe was the oddly-specific phrase used by Totera). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 1 minute ago, Gopherbashi said: Or, alternatively and as much as it contradicts our current dogma, OFFC will be joining CPL as an MLS affiliate, but "won't be called a B team" (which I believe was the oddly-specific phrase used by Totera). I think it was made clear that CPL and the CSA wouldn't have it and in theory, they should be excluded from the V-Cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 21 minutes ago, Ansem said: Then I'd pin him as doubtful for CPL and it would explain why he was so adamant on NASL and sort of negative towards CPL. Requirements might be too high for him on his own, mind you he could find partners to co-invest in a CPL team. Crossing fingers for Edmonton Oilers being involved at some point, or any oil company group/owners I'm guessing he's open to partnering if there's no NASL next year. Question is "what can they do next year?" 25 minutes ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said: Think I have seen $100 million as his net worth somewhere. The reason he was so adamant on the NASL was probably that he owned a large portion of the leagues class B shares and stood to gain from future expansion fees. Given he must have had some inkling this was about to happen and just signed Colin Miller to a three year contract extension, hopefully they will be in USL this summer. It's never good to see a Canadian pro team stop playing and we already appear to be losing FC Montreal. Sadly no it seems Maybe the remaining NASL teams will have some miniseason like WSA did in the 80s for 2017 and FCE will make the jump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 1 minute ago, matty said: I'm guessing he's open to partnering if there's no NASL next year. Question is "what can they do next year?" Seems like a captain, he'll go down with the NASL ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuillermoDelQuarto Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 I wonder if theres any potential for some of the ownership groups from a defunct NASL would be interested in CPL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, GuillermoDelQuarto said: I wonder if theres any potential for some of the ownership groups from a defunct NASL would be interested in CPL? Not sure I would want them in our league... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazlo_80 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Why couldn't Ottawa still function as a Montreal affiliate in the CPL? There's been nothing to suggest they can't do that. just that there will be no teams in the league without the "2" or "B" at the end of them. This structure would allow Impact to get involved in CPL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 1 minute ago, matty said: Maybe the remaining NASL teams will have some miniseason like WSA did in the 80s for 2017 and FCE will make the jump The other three are dead, so they would need to play their academy team as Duane Rollins has pointed out on twitter: Guess somebody has to be the last to leave the ship, so it may be premature to draw conclusions at this point as there may still be time to open negotiations with USL. Suspect we won't have to wait more than a day or two to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Just now, BringBackTheBlizzard said: The other three are dead, so they would need to play their academy team as Duane Rollins has pointed out on twitter: Guess somebody has to be the last to leave the ship, so it may be premature to draw conclusions at this point as there may still be time to open negotiations with USL. Suspect we won't have to wait more than a day or two to find out. I was referring to the NASL clubs that don't get picked up by USL (not all the NASL clubs will be taken in I'm sure) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, lazlo_80 said: Why couldn't Ottawa still function as a Montreal affiliate in the CPL? There's been nothing to suggest they can't do that. just that there will be no teams in the league without the "2" or "B" at the end of them. This structure would allow Impact to get involved in CPL. CSA already said no. If they ever did that it would make CPL a 2nd rate league to MLS which you'd understand is very bad for business, a brand and all the investors would have walked away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazlo_80 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 1 minute ago, Ansem said: CSA already said no. If they ever did that it would make CPL a 2nd rate league to MLS which you'd understand is very bad for business, a brand and all the investors would have walked away Where did you see that reported? I haven't seen that anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Just now, lazlo_80 said: Where did you see that reported? I haven't seen that anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazlo_80 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 But this isn't a reserve team. An affiliate functions as its own entity. I'm not trying to be difficult, but this is in fact something other than a reserve team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mianjo Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 What does Impact provide to the Fury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 1 minute ago, matty said: I was referring to the NASL clubs that don't get picked up by USL (not all the NASL clubs will be taken in I'm sure) Think the Cosmos were the only orgnization that had zero chance on that, but can see where you are coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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