New CONCACAF And CONMOBEL Club Competition

[Ansem]

53 minutes ago, SpursFlu said:

Concacaf Champions League, Leagues Cup, Copa Libertadores 

Somethings gotta give here

CCL should logically serve as the qualifier for a playoff series vs Copa Libertadores finalists or just champions of each regions 

I expect CONCACAF to go back to group stage at some point and ignore MLS complains about having to play too many games

[SpursFlu]

17 minutes ago, Ansem said:

CCL should logically serve as the qualifier for a playoff series vs Copa Libertadores finalists or just champions of each regions 

I expect CONCACAF to go back to group stage at some point and ignore MLS complains about having to play too many games

It seems that a lot of people ate denying the Concacaf in Libertadores thing. They're pointing yo the announcement in January and it seems to indicate a final 4 type concept. That makes a lot more sense. The Seattle Sounders flying to Argentina mid week makes zero sense 

[Watchmen]

19 hours ago, narduch said:

So now reports are coming out that Concacaf teams will start playing in Copa Libertadores starting in 2024.

On the one hand, I'd love for the continued unification of CONCACAF/CONMEBOL.  On the other, at the club level it's an enormous travel burden on the players, even more than travel to central america.  I'll wait for more details on this.

[Kent]

On 7/14/2023 at 11:03 PM, SpursFlu said:

It seems that a lot of people ate denying the Concacaf in Libertadores thing. They're pointing yo the announcement in January and it seems to indicate a final 4 type concept. That makes a lot more sense. The Seattle Sounders flying to Argentina mid week makes zero sense 

Don't worry, I'm sure Seattle won't have to travel to Argentina. No doubt all games will be held in the USA, as per usual.

[SpursFlu]

Lots of Concacaf reporters (almost as if someone told them to) immediately started denying and saying there will be be a final 4 competition  kinda like Nations League. Probably in 1 place, probably also in Las Vegas.

I do think that is most probable and kinda cool actually 

[narduch]

 

 

[Raven]

Bringing back an older named competition. Last played in 1998.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copa_Interamericana

 

[Ruffian]

I would think if the Copa InterAmericana continues with a similar structure then they will have to open up League's Cup to more leagues since it is CONCACAF sanctioned.

[Ansem]

On 8/17/2023 at 10:10 AM, Ruffian said:

I would think if the Copa InterAmericana continues with a similar structure then they will have to open up League's Cup to more leagues since it is CONCACAF sanctioned.

I'm thinking the same thing or CONCACAF could decide that eventually both berths will have come from their Champions League instead if MLS doesn't open up its cup to more leagues.

Personally, if this format is to stay - bring back CONCACAF league and open it to MLS and Liga MX as well like they do in CONMEBOL

[Watchmen]

I'm thinking the only reason this tournament returned is because CONMEBOL wants a few games against Liga MX or MLS, and I would not anticipate the Leagues Cup opening up to other leagues.

[narduch]

Well the Central American clubs should be pissed about this regardless.

[Watchmen]

10 minutes ago, narduch said:

Well the Central American clubs should be pissed about this regardless.

They should be more pissed about the CL format than this. Only 5 spots for the entire region, while Canada is getting at least 3.

[narduch]

19 minutes ago, Watchmen said:

They should be more pissed about the CL format than this. Only 5 spots for the entire region, while Canada is getting at least 3.

I have seen people complain about that on social media.

Doesn't make this any less wrong. 

[Watchmen]

54 minutes ago, narduch said:

I have seen people complain about that on social media.

Doesn't make this any less wrong. 

I think this one is even less relevant/more of a cash grab than the Leagues Cup.  I think sometimes you pick your battles, and this one isn't worth the Central American fighting for.

[narduch]

11 minutes ago, Watchmen said:

I think this one is even less relevant/more of a cash grab than the Leagues Cup.  I think sometimes you pick your battles, and this one isn't worth the Central American fighting for.

Lol okay.

[Watchmen]

7 minutes ago, narduch said:

Lol okay.

Well, I guess we'll see.  It's always the format for this tournament that made sense, and there's no desire from MLS or Liga MX to allow other countries in to the Leagues Cup.

[narduch]

Just now, Watchmen said:

Well, I guess we'll see.  It's always the format for this tournament that made sense, and there's no desire from MLS or Liga MX to allow other countries in to the Leagues Cup.

That really doesn't matter.

It's up to Concacaf to make it fair.

Hell having the Leagues Cup winner face off v the Central American Cup winner would be way fairer

[Watchmen]

2 hours ago, narduch said:

That really doesn't matter.

It's up to Concacaf to make it fair.

Hell having the Leagues Cup winner face off v the Central American Cup winner would be way fairer

Well, it seems CONCACAF already thinks its fair or they wouldn't be moving forward with this method.

[Kent]

CONCACAF thinks that if it makes money, it's fair.

[Ansem]

11 minutes ago, Kent said:

CONCACAF thinks that if it makes money, it's fair.

Until the rest of the region starts complaining, the one who happen to hold the majority of the votes.

The whole thing will change again.

[xcalibre]

Yeah, all the "Leagues Cup entry doesn't make sense until they include the rest of CONCACAF" seems to misunderstand the whole point of this thing. It's not about determining some kind of pan-American champion by sporting merit, it's selling a crapload of tickets to fans of Latin American soccer based in the US. Have Leagues Cup and Nations League taught you nothing? The rest of the region will be placated with some big-money games of their own

[SpursFlu]

I always figured this tournament would happen at the end of the year but based on it having 2023 winners it will happen likely February or March. Probably in Vegas or something 

[narduch]

 

 

[SpursFlu]

I'm beginning to wonder if this is even happening. Seem to be waiting a long time to make an official announcement 

[SpursFlu]

Unfortunately this is no longer happening