SpecialK Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 4 hours ago, canta15 said: Oh yea, because one of the reasons players would want to switch to Canada is us playing certain teams in friendlies players want to play against England, France, Brazil, Germany, Spain, Colombia, Argentina, Sweden etc and play in World Cups. Once Canada starts playing against the world's best, we will get all our duels and players who hardly played for Canada. I bet there are some players that we have never thought of come out with a connection to Canada. Why would Cristante and others, come and play for Canada when we play against shit teams ? I'm sorry but the truth hurts. I hope the CSA listen to Oz and they start booking big teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 12 minutes ago, SpecialK said: players want to play against England, France, Brazil, Germany, Spain, Colombia, Argentina, Sweden etc and play in World Cups. Once Canada starts playing against the world's best, we will get all our duels and players who hardly played for Canada. I bet there are some players that we have never thought of come out with a connection to Canada. Why would Cristante and others, come and play for Canada when we play against shit teams ? I'm sorry but the truth hurts. I hope the CSA listen to Oz and they start booking big teams I don't know, why does Premier Leaguer Scott Arfield travel halfway around the world to play shit teams? And why does he always go on about how much he enjoys it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, BuzzAndSting said: I don't know, why does Premier Leaguer Scott Arfield travel halfway around the world to play shit teams? And why does he always go on about how much he enjoys it? Because Scotland/Gordon Strachan, didn't want him ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 If Scotland called him, he wouldn't be with Canada thank god for Gordon Strachan incompetence /stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, SpecialK said: Because Scotland/Gordon Strachan, didn't want him ! It seemed like you were trying to make the argument that dual nationals don't want to play for Canada because we play against shit teams. So for those who have a chance to play for another nation, like Cristante, they will not play for us because of the opposition we face but if they're turned down by another nation they'll over look that, like Arfied, and decide to play for Canada? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_M Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Johnson out https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017/08/20/orlando-city-sc-lose-midfielder-will-johnson-2-4-weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 22 hours ago, SpecialK said: players want to play against England, France, Brazil, Germany, Spain, Colombia, Argentina, Sweden etc and play in World Cups. Once Canada starts playing against the world's best, we will get all our duels and players who hardly played for Canada. I bet there are some players that we have never thought of come out with a connection to Canada. Why would Cristante and others, come and play for Canada when we play against shit teams ? I'm sorry but the truth hurts. I hope the CSA listen to Oz and they start booking big teams Just by reading this comment, I lost a good chunk of my brain cells Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Addona Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 21 hours ago, Big_M said: Johnson out https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2017/08/20/orlando-city-sc-lose-midfielder-will-johnson-2-4-weeks Man this guy is unbelievable.... deliberately getting injured just to avoid playing with the CMNT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Umm Orlando play the same night as the Jamaica game. Any takers on whether Johnson will recover and play that night for Orlando?? Wouldnt that be a kick in the marble bag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 3 hours ago, Bison44 said: Umm Orlando play the same night as the Jamaica game. Any takers on whether Johnson will recover and play that night for Orlando?? Wouldnt that be a kick in the marble bag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack15 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Who will OZ call up to replace Johnson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleepBlap Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 On 8/20/2017 at 6:07 PM, SpecialK said: players want to play against England, France, Brazil, Germany, Spain, Colombia, Argentina, Sweden etc and play in World Cups. Once Canada starts playing against the world's best, we will get all our duels and players who hardly played for Canada. I bet there are some players that we have never thought of come out with a connection to Canada. Why would Cristante and others, come and play for Canada when we play against shit teams ? I'm sorry but the truth hurts. I hope the CSA listen to Oz and they start booking big teams This is a truly awful post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 13 hours ago, Blackjack15 said: Who will OZ call up to replace Johnson? Looks like he has 10-11 mids called now. Call up another striker, play 2 up front so we can see AJH and Larin together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 8 hours ago, BleepBlap said: This is a truly awful post These are teams Canada has played from past 2007-2017 Key note - year/result/ FIFA world ranking of team at the year of the game Also if in the result column has a double letter in it it means they play twice in the same year . If my math is right ( it could be wrong lol ) but Canada has only play 30 games in the past 10 years against top 50 teams. canada has only played 22 games at home in 10 years just look at the teams the USA and Australia (who is very similar to Canada with population and economy ) has played : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_men's_national_soccer_team_results https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia_national_soccer_team_results Canada needs to play against better teams! And the BS about us not playing enough CONCACAF teams, will just take a look. Also CONCACAF is considered a joke in world soccer. Bermuda - 2007/W/ 147 - 2016/W/185 Venezuela- 2007/D/62 - 2010/D/60 Costa Rica - 2007 / W D/ 70 - 2009/D/44 - 2013 / L / 31 - 2015/ D/ 37 - 2017/D/ 21 Guadeloupe - 2007/L/NA - 2011/W/NA Haiti - 2007/ W/ 69 Guatemala - 2007/W/106 - 2009/W/121 - 2015/W/ 94 USA- 2007/L/19 - 2011/L/34 - 2012/D/28 - 2013/D/14 - 2016/L/28 Iceland - 2007/ D/ 92 - 2015 / L D / 36 South Africa-2007/L/77 Martinique 2008/W/NA - 2013/L/NA Estonia -2008/L/119 Brazil- 2008/L/5 Panama- 2008/D/88 - 2011/D/49 - 2013/D/38 - 2014/D/57 Saint Vincent - 2008-/WW/133 Jamaica- 2008/D/65 - 2009/W/81 - 2010/L/58 - 2014/W/75 - 2015/L/54 - 2017/L/57 Honduras - 2008/L/40 - 2009/L/37 - 2010/W/59 - 2012/DL/58 - 2015/W/101 - 2016/L/75 - 2017/D/75 Mexico - 2008/LD/26 - 2013/L/21 - 2016/LL/ 18 Cyprus- 2009/W/68 El Salvador-2009/W/78 - 2015/DD/99 - 2016 /W/139 Macedonia - 2009/L/65 Poland-2009/L/58 Argentina-2010/L/5 Peru -2010/L/68 Ukraine-2010/D/34 Greece- 2011/L/14 Belarus- 2011/W/64 - 2013/L/81 Ecuador-2011/D/42 Puerto Rico-2011/WD/108 - 2015/W/172 Saint Kitts -2011/ DW /116 Saint Lucia-2011 / WW/185 Armenia -2012 /L/ 75 Cuba- 2012 / WW /100 Trinidad and Tobago - 2012/W/68 Japan- 2013/L/47 Denmark - 2013/L/25 Mauritania - 2013/DL/142 - 2016/W/108 Australia - 2013 / L / 75 Czech Republic - 2013 / L/ 28 Slovenia -2013/L/29 Columbia - 2014 / L / 3 Moldova - 2014 / D / 121 Bulgaria - 2014 / D/ 66 Dominica - 2015 / W W / 176 Ghana - 2015 / D / 33 Belize - 2015 / W D / 127 South Korea - 2016 / L / 37 Azerbaijan - 2016 / D / 90 Uzbekistan - 2016 / W / 62 Morocco - 2016 / L / 62 Scotland - 2017 / D / 58 Curaçao - 2017 / W / 86 French Guiana - 2017 / W / NA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 @SpecialK You expect us to look through all of Australia's and the USA's games without stating a summary smh... How about stating if those games came from the numerous Confederation and World Cups each team has participated in. And wow in the one wiki page I looked at on Australia's friendlies, none were "world superpowers" What. A. Surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi44 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 28 minutes ago, SpecialK said: These are teams Canada has played from past 2007-2017 If my math is right Canada has only play 30 games in the past 10 years against top 50 teams. Canada needs to play against better teams! And the BS about us not playing enough CONCACAF teams, will just take a look. Also CONCACAF is considered a joke in world soccer. 30 games against top-50 teams in 10 years is more than enough. That's an average of 3 a year! I am definitely in the "we need to play more games against regional opponents" camp. Canada needs to get used to - and expect to - get results in Central America if qualifying for a World Cup out of this "joke" region (as you say) is ever going to happen! We should be playing more home/away matches against the likes of Panama, Costa Rica, Honduras, Guatemala, TnT, Jamaica, El Salvador, Haiti, Cuba, etc. Throw in USA and Mexico matches if you want a "sexy" opponent... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jith12 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 3 minutes ago, Bertuzzi44 said: 30 games against top-50 teams in 10 years is more than enough. That's an average of 3 a year! I am definitely in the "we need to play more games against regional opponents" camp. Canada needs to get used to - and expect to - get results in Central America if qualifying for a World Cup out of this "joke" region (as you say) is ever going to happen! We should be playing more home/away matches against the likes of Panama, Costa Rica, Honduras, Guatemala, TnT, Jamaica, El Salvador, Haiti, Cuba, etc. Throw in USA and Mexico matches if you want a "sexy" opponent... Agreed. Playing "super powers" is useless if we can't beat teams from our own region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 11 minutes ago, canta15 said: @SpecialK You expect us to look through all of Australia's and the USA's games without stating a summary smh... How about stating if those games came from the numerous Confederation and World Cups each team has participated in. And wow in the one wiki page I looked at on Australia's friendlies, none were "world superpowers" What. A. Surprise. Fine I'll make it lazy for you. Australia friendlies from 2010 to 2017 teams 2010- New Zealand Denmark USA Slovenia Switzerland Poland Paraguay 2011- UAE Germany New Zealand Serbia wales 2012 - Denmark Scotland Lebanon South Korea 2013 - Romania Brazil France Canada Costa Rica 2014- Ecuador South Africa Croatia Belgium Japan UAE Saudi Arabia Qatar 2015 - Germany Macedonia 2016 - England Greece( twice) 2017- Brazil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Our players are not gonna get notice or be allowed to play in better league if Canada does do better against better teams. If Canada doesn't become "sexy option" " respected in world soccer, duels are not gonna come and our talented players with options are gonna go somewhere else. Haven't we lost enough players to other nations. We keep on playing against CONCACAF teams and Lower end teams and we don't get better and we don't make World Cups. So why don't we change things around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 14 minutes ago, SpecialK said: Fine I'll make it lazy for you. Australia friendlies from 2010 to 2017 teams 2010- New Zealand Denmark USA Slovenia Switzerland Poland Paraguay 2011- UAE Germany New Zealand Serbia wales 2012 - Denmark Scotland Lebanon South Korea 2013 - Romania Brazil France Canada Costa Rica 2014- Ecuador South Africa Croatia Belgium Japan UAE Saudi Arabia Qatar 2015 - Germany Macedonia 2016 - England Greece( twice) 2017- Brazil Don't make a point, give a proof, and fail to explain it. And in response to your second point, I'm sorry but this man is too stupid to not be from vancouver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 23 minutes ago, canta15 said: Don't make a point, give a proof, and fail to explain it. And in response to your second point, I'm sorry but this man is too stupid to not be from vancouver Ok so I give a example of Australia playing friendlies against some amazing teams. Their players don't have to run off to other nations to play against the big boys, they make world cups, there are a lot of Australian players playing in the top leagues in Europe. USA plays almost double the amount of families against CONCACAF teams and the big boys. United States is gaining duel nationals like crazy, it's also part of their policy from USA soccer to get duel nationals. They make World Cups, and are not laughing joke. Oh ya too THEY make so much money hosting games and sponsors. hahaha you guys are saying we should keep doing what we are doing, praying and hope other nations don't call up guys so we can get them. Play against shit teams, and don't go to World Cups and be broke financially. Oh wait this the best part, put all our hope for domestic league to produce players, the funny part about that Canada's population is based majority on immigrants, so majority of players will have options to other nations. Also the CPL will be a lower end league for a while until it gets going . So that could take years . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 I'm going to try to squeeze this simple idea into your thick skull. Duel-Nationals choosing to join Canada and playing "big" nations in meaningless friendlies have NO correlation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 36 minutes ago, canta15 said: I'm going to try to squeeze this simple idea into your thick skull. Duel-Nationals choosing to join Canada and playing "big" nations in meaningless friendlies have NO correlation Players want to play against big nations. Athletes in general want to play against the best. Question how many players as Canada lost? And why? Also how many young Canadian players are playing for other nations? Your telling me, if a head coach of Canada goes to Cristante or Ferreira or others says look guys, Canada has some young good talent here and we going to playing against the same teams that Italy and Portugal are going to be playing, and you guys are gonna be key parts our team, your telling me that's not gonna help?!? Come on canta! Read up on the articles of American duels nationals who were born in Germany and now playing for the US team. Also those players come in to the us program young! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 1 hour ago, SpecialK said: Players want to play against big nations. Athletes in general want to play against the best. Question how many players as Canada lost? And why? Also how many young Canadian players are playing for other nations? Your telling me, if a head coach of Canada goes to Cristante or Ferreira or others says look guys, Canada has some young good talent here and we going to playing against the same teams that Italy and Portugal are going to be playing, and you guys are gonna be key parts our team, your telling me that's not gonna help?!? Come on canta! Read up on the articles of American duels nationals who were born in Germany and now playing for the US team. Also those players come in to the us program young! See the difference between you wanting us to play the same teams as Italy and Germany is that they play in OFFICIAL COMPETIONS LIKE THE WORLD CUP and we play in meaningless friendlies that no one gives a damn about. From your logic, if Suriname and Curacao set up friendlies with "top teams" they would have half of the Dutch national team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 44 minutes ago, canta15 said: See the difference between you wanting us to play the same teams as Italy and Germany is that they play in OFFICIAL COMPETIONS LIKE THE WORLD CUP and we play in meaningless friendlies that no one gives a damn about. From your logic, if Suriname and Curacao set up friendlies with "top teams" they would have half of the Dutch national team Other nations play teams like England, France, Italy , Germany in friendlies, it helps development , shows off what we have, brings in huge money, it's shows the World Canada is not some piss ant. I know for a fact you bring in a nation like those, you'll have 40-60 thousand who give a damn and imagine if we win or get a tie. Oz said it him self Canada needs to play against the best. even if Germany brought its B/C team it would better then any other team in CONCACAF ( other then Mexico or USA). We are going to be playing the big boys in World Cups so why not get ready ! Maybe you don't care how Canada does in World Cups and just happy to be there but for me I'm not! I want Canada to win some games. my logic and thinking is Canada needs to start playing against better competition we have young talent right now and we have some players who are very good for sitting on the sidelines we need to do everything in our power, to show them and the world that we mean business, and that they will get the same treatment, opportunities and play against the same teams that Italy Portugal Belgium England Northern Ireland USA and Mexico play. Canada as lost enough players to other nations and sat in the basement of World Soccer. It's time to set up. And I can't believe you can't get behind that and you call yourself a Canadian Soccer fan. Why is mediocre acceptable to you ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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