madmonte Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Man, quite a few guys, many who have been capped senior level for Canada, have unfortunately fizzled out and are out of contract right now. Is there yet hope for these guys? I know Attakora is hoping to trial at places, but I've heard nothing for the other three. There's other guys in the same boat, so if I forgot a name I apologize, I was naming the main four that came to my mind. None of these guys are old either, Gianluca I think is the oldest at 25? Unfortunate how Sidra and Zavarise's final fizzle outs occured getting cut from Canadian squads. That double hurts lol, but I mean I have to admit Gianluca didn't exactly sizzle for TFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tovan1 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Add Ali Gerba and Jaime Peters to the list. If there were 1 or 2 more NASL teams in the country, these guy could probably have a job at least in the interim.. but alas, D2 in Canada and the US isn't exactly expanding by leaps and bounds at the moment. Hopefully, the new Ottawa franchise will help to some degree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiKu Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Loads of guys with nowhere really to play. Peters must be good enough for NASL? Sidra, as well. What about Gyorio??? Yeesh. Gerba apparently has offers in Europe and is likely waiting for his IMFC contract to expire (IMFC won't trade or release him). There are more .... edit: someone on V's here posted a while back he spoke with Attakora in the street by chance and N.A. stated a west coast MLS team was signing him. So if that's true he'll make that move when the transfer window opens or shortly after I assume? Then again....it is the interwebs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Why would a transfer window be required when his last contract was with MLS and involved playing for a west coast MLS team? Seems to me he thought the Quakes were going to take him back if things didn't pan out in Europe and has discovered the hard way that clubs usually decide to move on with other options in these circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiKu Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 ^best guess. Davies apparently has an offer at one of Bernier's old clubs but certainly no transfer window would apply there. How he doesn't have a club is mindboggling. I don't know how like the Scandinavian offer is, but my best guess (Again) is that Montreal wants him but the Whitecaps are playing hard ball with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Nana's rights are owned by San Jose, so if he wants to sign with another west coast team then it's likely being held up by San Jose who want something for him. Best option is for him to sign in Europe this summer and just be done with MLS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Sidra is currently attached to a Future Shop in Edmonton. Apparently he was having some injury problems as well. I doubt he'll ever be back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Sidra is currently attached to a Future Shop in Edmonton. Apparently he was having some injury problems as well. I doubt he'll ever be back. Like Gavin McCallum, he'll enter V's folklore until the end of the time for that one game that showed so much promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerpro Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Sidra played with a youth team in Europe, not the first to fizzle out. Zavarise didn't show anything at TFC. Nana imploded last year after seemingly having a very bright future. I blame it on growing long hair. Davies was great at u23 qualifiers and it's surprising he isn't back in the game. Unfortunately, he's a lesson to a lot of 18 and 19 year old kids thinking about signing that 1st MLS contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditty Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Sidra is currently attached to a Future Shop in Edmonton. Apparently he was having some injury problems as well. I doubt he'll ever be back. Yes, the longer this goes, the less likely I see him playing pro again. I was thinking that at the least he would be playing in the Alberta Major League this summer. Not sure if anyone knows if he's turning out for Edmonton Green and Gold or someone else? It's a shame because talking to an FC Edmonton teammate, he was rated highly by the other players and had won the LB spot. But it sounds like he was still playing hurt at that time. I'm guessing playing and training on the turf at Foote Field couldn't have helped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villus Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Add Ali Gerba and Jaime Peters to the list. If there were 1 or 2 more NASL teams in the country, these guy could probably have a job at least in the interim.. but alas, D2 in Canada and the US isn't exactly expanding by leaps and bounds at the moment. Hopefully, the new Ottawa franchise will help to some degree. I don't know the full details or anything but if what I'm hearing is correct the Impact are not releasing Ali G from his contract and are forcing him to sit out until his contract expires? Obviously there are details here but this pisses me off, there are 3 Canadian clubs that are affiliated with the CSA and holding back one of our best Strikers in our pool right now is hurting the MNT, even if he does'nt start we are thin at Striker and the Impact holding him out pisses me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 I don't know the full details or anything but if what I'm hearing is correct the Impact are not releasing Ali G from his contract and are forcing him to sit out until his contract expires? Obviously there are details here but this pisses me off, there are 3 Canadian clubs that are affiliated with the CSA and holding back one of our best Strikers in our pool right now is hurting the MNT, even if he does'nt start we are thin at Striker and the Impact holding him out pisses me off. If he wanted to he could get a lawyer and have his contract voided through the CAS, there are rules against intentionally blocking someone from playing - especially when the team the player is contracted to is no longer in operation. However, I'm guessing the way it has gone down he would rather get paid for doing nothing than be released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi44 Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Peters must be good enough for NASL? Peters is good enough for MLS is my mind. He has 100 appearances for Ipswich in the English Championship. And he is only 25. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 I don't know the full details or anything but if what I'm hearing is correct the Impact are not releasing Ali G from his contract and are forcing him to sit out until his contract expires? Obviously there are details here but this pisses me off, there are 3 Canadian clubs that are affiliated with the CSA and holding back one of our best Strikers in our pool right now is hurting the MNT, even if he does'nt start we are thin at Striker and the Impact holding him out pisses me off. I am not happy the Impact cut Gerba or how they did it because I think both the Impact and Canada could use him. However, I think you have the situation completely backwards. It is Gerba who is not releasing the Impact out of the contract and forcing them to pay him the full amount he is owed. Probably he can not find a club willing to pay him anything near to the apparently hefty salary he has from the Impact. If Gerba can find a club and wants to play I highly doubt the Impact would stop him from doing so but he would have to make some financial sacrifices that he is apparently unwilling to make (or he does not really have any other offers). It is an unfortunate situation but both parties are completely within their rights to do what they are doing. If Gerba wants to play he will have to terminate or negotiate a settlement to the contract. I don't blame him if he is unwilling to do so but you can't really blame the club for that decision either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villus Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 I am not happy the Impact cut Gerba or how they did it because I think both the Impact and Canada could use him. However, I think you have the situation completely backwards. It is Gerba who is not releasing the Impact out of the contract and forcing them to pay him the full amount he is owed. Probably he can not find a club willing to pay him anything near to the apparently hefty salary he has from the Impact. If Gerba can find a club and wants to play I highly doubt the Impact would stop him from doing so but he would have to make some financial sacrifices that he is apparently unwilling to make (or he does not really have any other offers). It is an unfortunate situation but both parties are completely within their rights to do what they are doing. If Gerba wants to play he will have to terminate or negotiate a settlement to the contract. I don't blame him if he is unwilling to do so but you can't really blame the club for that decision either. Fair enough, I did'nt have any of the details just what I had heard and obviously they are both within their rights. Too bad then that he's just sitting out, both parties would def. benefit, too bad they could'nt just loan him out somewhere and its a win win as long as Gerba wants to play, even if they have to cover some wages they don't have to cover them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Peters is good enough for MLS is my mind. He has 100 appearances for Ipswich in the English Championship. And he is only 25. At the risk of motivating essays edifying why Peters is not a fit for "their" team, rewriting history, pontificating glowingly on the future benefits of the academies, or worst of all, spewing absurdity on why Canadian professional teams have no/should have no responsibilities towards canadian soccer players, I worry that Peters may be too Canadian for MLS. Peters is young enough, athletic enough, talented enough and affordable enough for MLS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Peters is young enough, athletic enough, talented enough and affordable enough for MLS. The bolded point, in particular, is an extremely, extremely uncertain and unprovable assertion. Championship depth players get paid a lot more than MLS depth players, and if you think Peters would be more than an MLS depth player you've been watching a different guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiKu Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Peters would be a platoon guy, he'd get long stretches in a first team and long stretches as a sub - but if TFC or even MTL think they couldn't use him they are nutso! Even Whitecaps could use him as a back-up for Pyo. (if Peters would agree to a FB role). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmonte Posted June 20, 2012 Author Share Posted June 20, 2012 Yeah ship out Ecks and Peters would like great in that RB role...maybe weaker defensively but you'll get better ball movement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi44 Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Peters to VWFC? Hahaha Vancouver doesn't use/play Canadians. Unfortunately, he'd be better off elsewhere... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianfoot Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 How many players do we have at the moment in limbo without clubs or warming the benches? Could we fill a starting 11 in a D2 scenario? And have another 11guys with some experience learn from them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 How many players do we have at the moment in limbo without clubs or warming the benches? Could we fill a starting 11 in a D2 scenario? And have another 11guys with some experience learn from them? http://www.cansoc.org/showthread.php?39785-Canadians-MIA-UI-List That is a decent NASL side right there. MIA FC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbrad Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Fair enough, I did'nt have any of the details just what I had heard and obviously they are both within their rights. Too bad then that he's just sitting out, both parties would def. benefit, too bad they could'nt just loan him out somewhere and its a win win as long as Gerba wants to play, even if they have to cover some wages they don't have to cover them all. Reminds me of Sheldon Souray with the Oilers. That was a two year ordeal and both parties got buggered.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonfan Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 Jamie Peters must have some options. This guy is still young and is a stud on the pitch...MLS teams should be all over him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted June 21, 2012 Share Posted June 21, 2012 I do not see Peters in MLS unless he is either very desperarte for playing time (which he should be) or unless he is sick of Europe. Why? Because he would likely have to take a 50 percent pay cut to come back home. In an ideal world, he is good enough to be a starter or solid depth player, but with the MLS salary cap he would make alot less than he deserves (like 99% of MLS players). Considering the guy has earned Championship money his whole career, he may find it unreasonable to make $100,000 a season. No way he makes more than that. Hainualt makes around $150,000, Jakovic makes around $200,000, and Johnson makes around $225,000. And all have proven to be solid MLS starters for a number of years now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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