gator Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 To go this many games without a goal is ridiculous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrennanFan Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 quote:Originally posted by hodgkiss starting to wonder about fonseca already... 0-0 for 83 minutes and made one sub (at the half) t&t scores so he takes out a defender and puts in a forward? so it seems obvious he was playing for the draw. why? maybe because he knows something about our forwards that we dont (they suck)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 quote:Originally posted by BrennanFan maybe because he knows something about Canadian forwards that we all know - they suck. fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 FT [xx(] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 We needed at least a draw, bad result! Hopefully T&T as the host turn out to be better than expected, I doubt it though, I think we're just bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthAfricaOrBust Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Is it time for a Whitby Dunlops or Trail Smoke Eaters solution in CanadaÉ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrennanFan Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Paris, Bonifacio, Gage, Igor and Porter better get their chance next game. we gotta change something up. mexico and costa rica are both beatable. the tourny isnt over yet. good to see at least some efforts by the CSA to update us with that write-up at the half. not good enough tho. How expensive can it be to get a decent live match tracker on the CSA website!!?? MESSAGE TO THE PERSON at the CSA who was updating the CSA website (I know you are reading this): Sign up for a free account with our forum and post proper updates on the flow of play on our thread for the next game. Free. Easy. We will appreciate you more. Go on, you can do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 This is our first loss in a CONCACAF U-20 tournament since a February 12, 1999, 2-0 loss to El Salvador. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag futbol Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Our this just hurts. So do we turn our optimism to a group younger? Or maybe a group yonger below that? yyeee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthAfricaOrBust Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Yeah, kudos to the CSA for keeping us atleast half-ass up to date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 I started to worry about a late goal against around the 70th minute. The heat and humidity in Trinidad has been pretty tough on the players these past couple of days of training (and they did not really get acclimated to the heat while training in Florida because the weather was unseasonably cold down there during their pre tournament camp). I sincerely believe that Fonseca needs to commit to an offensive mindset, especially early in the games. By 70 minutes, the starters are not going to have a lot left in the tank. All is not lost but a draw in the next game is not acceptable. They need a win. I'm not convinced about Haber up front. Fonseca seems enamoured with him (from the very first camp in fact) but I'm just not a believer. I'm not sure he have the midfielders who can provide him with the service necessary to take advantage of his strongest asset (his size). I'd rather see Igor and Randy up front. According to a few coaches I've spoken to, Igor is a pure poacher. He might not be pretty to watch but the ball finds a way into the net when he's on the pitch. I'm hopeful for a better result in the next game. We really need some good news for the first time in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 quote:Originally posted by VPjr I started to worry about a late goal against around the 70th minute. The heat and humidity in Trinidad has been pretty tough on the players these past couple of days of training (and they did not really get acclimated to the heat while training in Florida because the weather was unseasonably cold down there during their pre tournament camp). I sincerely believe that Fonseca needs to commit to an offensive mindset, especially early in the games. By 70 minutes, the starters are not going to have a lot left in the tank. All is not lost but a draw in the next game is not acceptable. They need a win. I'm not convinced about Haber up front. Fonseca seems enamoured with him (from the very first camp in fact) but I'm just not a believer. I'm not sure he have the midfielders who can provide him with the service necessary to take advantage of his strongest asset (his size). I'd rather see Igor and Randy up front. According to a few coaches I've spoken to, Igor is a pure poacher. He might not be pretty to watch but the ball finds a way into the net when he's on the pitch. I'm hopeful for a better result in the next game. We really need some good news for the first time in a long time. I'm not convinced in Haber period. I think he's poor up front and a little better, but still poor at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soro17 Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 ^ Agreed. Whenever Haber starts we seem to get shut out. I don't think he runs well enough to play up front all game. Maybe he should come off the bench late? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 It's been so long since we've had a good result in any official match at any level, hopefully the guys can surprise us the next two games! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 we need to find some new talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Observer Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 My concern with this side all along is that are missing the difference makers of sides from year's past. They have way more depth but that doesnt matter if you don't have the one or 2 players that can turn the game. The lead up to this match with all the 1-0 defeats and 0-0 draws has shown that to be the case. I suspect more of the same in the next couple of matches. Unfortunately, a wins are needed which don't seem to be forthcoming. That being said, I wish the boys luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Observer Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 My concern with this side all along is that are missing the difference makers of sides from year's past. They have way more depth but that doesnt matter if you don't have the one or 2 players that can turn the game. The lead up to this match with all the 1-0 defeats and 0-0 draws has shown that to be the case. I suspect more of the same in the next couple of matches. Unfortunately, a wins are needed which don't seem to be forthcoming. That being said, I wish the boys luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottawaguy2009 Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 How'd we lose? Was it a good goal? I was really hoping we could at least play this game to a draw. I thought we had a decent squad? Or do we, and that's why we didn't lose 4-0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottawaguy2009 Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 How'd we lose? Was it a good goal? I was really hoping we could at least play this game to a draw. I thought we had a decent squad? Or do we, and that's why we didn't lose 4-0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 quote:Originally posted by ottawaguy2009 How'd we lose? Was it a good goal? I was really hoping we could at least play this game to a draw. I thought we had a decent squad? Or do we, and that's why we didn't lose 4-0? From the report on the CSA site, it sounds like the goal was a well taken free kick. Otherwise, not much separated the two teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 quote:Originally posted by An Observer My concern with this side all along is that are missing the difference makers of sides from year's past. That being said, I wish the boys luck. Could have used Hoillet, but he was busy scoring a brace for St. Pauli. Same here, good luck the rest of the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhat Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 It's hard to judge our boys and their play WHEN WE CAN'T WATCH THE MATCH. But surely the team knows that they had to get a result. Disappointing, but it's not over yet, as BrennanFan appropriately stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analyst Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 quote:Originally posted by hodgkiss im surprised that paris and brandon don't get the start... Yes, some of Fonseca's selections are strange. He started 4 players from the Whitecaps amateur Prospects but didn't start 3 professionals (Bonafacio, Nakajima Farran and Igor). He also didn't select Vukovic who is tied for Nakajima Farran for the most professional experience. Vukovic's dad, who is a coach in Bosnia and who holds a UEFA Professional Coaches Certificate (the same ticket that Avram Grant had to get last year when he took over from Mourinho at Chelsea) told me that Nakajima Farran is one of Canada's best, his first touch is better and he makes better passes and he's better at reading the game and knowing where to move. Fonseca has destroyed any chance of Canada making it to Egypt, and because of it, our next group of U20 players won't get any Sports Canada fundng next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 quote:Originally posted by analyst Yes, some of Fonseca's selections are strange. He started 4 players from the Whitecaps amateur Prospects but didn't start 3 professionals (Bonafacio, Nakajima Farran and Igor). He also didn't select Vukovic who is tied for Nakajima Farran for the most professional experience. Vukovic's dad, who is a coach in Bosnia and who holds a UEFA Professional Coaches Certificate (the same ticket that Avram Grant had to get last year when he took over from Mourinho at Chelsea) told me that Nakajima Farran is one of Canada's best, his first touch is better and he makes better passes and he's better at reading the game and knowing where to move. Fonseca has destroyed any chance of Canada making it to Egypt, and because of it, our next group of U20 players won't get any Sports Canada fundng next year. None of the 3 players mentionned is playing that much at the pro level. Bonifacio didn't made a single appearance with his club before he got loaned out to a Dutch second division team. Paris is in the same situation with a second division Danish side. I'm not sure about Igor but I don't think he is with the first team in Hungary (enlight me on this, I don't know his situation). It's pretty tough to evaluate all those players because we haven't had the chance to see much of them. One thing is clear, the 3 guys you mentionned don't have an impressive club situation IMO, nothing that should guarantee you a place on the starting 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masster Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 quote:Originally posted by VPjr I'm not convinced about Haber up front. Fonseca seems enamoured with him (from the very first camp in fact) but I'm just not a believer. I'm not sure he have the midfielders who can provide him with the service necessary to take advantage of his strongest asset (his size). I'm not convinced about Haber either. But I know that Teitur Thordason is in Fonseca's camp and really likes the kid. Mitchell and Dasovic thought he had potential as well given the amount of playing time he received. Can all of the higher level coaches we have in this country be wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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