2024 CONCACAF Champions Cup

[Kent]

39 minutes ago, SpursFlu said:

I'm with ya but that CPL travel in both directions probably hit the pocket books pretty hard. That Central American Cup is pretty financially viable for now

Yeah, it probably all comes down to money. As much as we want to believe CONCACAF just caves under pressure from USA and Mexico, ultimately they are listening to Central America and the Caribbean as well. They probably wanted these competitions instead of the CONCACAF League.

[narduch]

I think they should still run the Central American Cup but also guarantee each nation one spot (except maybe Belize).

[SpursFlu]

5 hours ago, Kent said:

Yeah, it probably all comes down to money. As much as we want to believe CONCACAF just caves under pressure from USA and Mexico, ultimately they are listening to Central America and the Caribbean as well. They probably wanted these competitions instead of the CONCACAF League.

One thing you could do to create a europa league type tourney is expand the tournament to 32 teams. Take the loser of every first round and create a parallel 16 team tournament 

[narduch]

Robinhood of Suriname have booked their place in the CCC.

Harbour View (Jamaica) and Moca (DR) will fight for the last Caribbean spot.

[narduch]

18 hours ago, narduch said:

Costa Rica's Alajuelense booked their place in the Central American Cup final yesterday. 

At stake is a spot in the round of 16.

Nicaragua's Real Esteli grabbed the other spot.

Quite the feat for a club from that nation.

[Kent]

Updated table of qualified teams. Rankings are from October 30th so could change a little. The "clinched pot x" is assuming no changes in rankings (the pot 1 teams are unlikely to change, but a team like Vancouver Whitecaps could move up to Pot 1 if one of the Pot 1 MLS teams won MLS Cup) and the "at least" means the team still has a shot at earning a first round bye (by winning MLS Cup, Caribbean Cup, or Central American Cup).

And the teams that can still qualify

Edited November 3, 2023 by Kent
Found a mistake, I didn't have enough Pot 1 teams

[Kent]

Note for above, the top 3 teams will actually be seeded directly into a spot to avoid the 5 teams that get a first round bye in the next round, but for all intents and purposes they are pot 1 teams, since a pot 2 team will be drawn against them.

[Kent]

I don't follow the rankings well enough to know for sure, but maybe it's not unrealistic for Vancouver to finish in Pot 1 over Houston after all. When I originally thought it was unlikely to make a difference I actually had the wrong number of teams going into Pot 1, where the gap was between Cincinnatti and Columbus, but the difference between Vancouver and Houston is half that size, so if Vancouver goes on a run and Houston crashes out, maybe Vancouver can get into Pot 1 even if they don't win MLS Cup.

[RJB]

23 hours ago, Kent said:

Updated table of qualified teams. Rankings are from October 30th so could change a little. The "clinched pot x" is assuming no changes in rankings (the pot 1 teams are unlikely to change, but a team like Vancouver Whitecaps could move up to Pot 1 if one of the Pot 1 MLS teams won MLS Cup) and the "at least" means the team still has a shot at earning a first round bye (by winning MLS Cup, Caribbean Cup, or Central American Cup).

And the teams that can still qualify

How is Montreal a possibility?

[narduch]

18 minutes ago, RJB said:

How is Montreal a possibility?

If Vancouver win the MLS Cup. They would get a spot in the round of 16.

Montreal would qualify as Voyageurs Cup finalists

[RJB]

5 hours ago, narduch said:

If Vancouver win the MLS Cup. They would get a spot in the round of 16.

Montreal would qualify as Voyageurs Cup finalists

Thanks. I guess I gave up on the whitecaps already. 😆

[narduch]

List of current possible opponents for the 3 Canadian teams based on the current club rankings.

 

 

[narduch]

Results from Tuesday.

 

Aalajuelense beat Real Esteli 3-0 in the road leg of the Central American Cup. 

 

In the Caribbean Cup 3rd place match up Moca of DR beat Jamaica's Harborview 2-1 on the road.

 

The first leg of the Caribbean Cup final was Thursday. Robinhood beat Cavalier 1-0

[SpursFlu]

I think either LAFC or NE Revolution will be the last MLS team

[narduch]

On 12/2/2023 at 8:05 AM, narduch said:

In the Caribbean Cup 3rd place match up Moca of DR beat Jamaica's Harborview 2-1 on the road.

Moca of Domenican Republic have qualified after a 1-1 draw today v Harbour View

[narduch]

On 12/2/2023 at 8:05 AM, narduch said:

Results from Tuesday.

 

Aalajuelense beat Real Esteli 3-0 in the road leg of the Central American Cup

2nd leg ended 1-1.

The Alajuelalense confirm their spot in the round if 16

[narduch]

On 12/2/2023 at 8:05 AM, narduch said:

 

The first leg of the Caribbean Cup final was Thursday. Robinhood beat Cavalier 1-0

Robinhood won the 2nd leg 2-0 and will also be in the round of 16.

[chalms04]

13 hours ago, narduch said:

Robinhood won the 2nd leg 2-0 and will also be in the round of 16.

[SpursFlu]

It seems the Whitecaps are guaranteed to be in the 2nd pot so to play a MLS or Liga MX team.

One other MLS team will end up in the 2nd pot

Pot # 1 - 6 MLS/ 5 Liga MX

Pot #2 - 2 MLS/ 9 everyone else

Edited December 7, 2023 by SpursFlu

[Kent]

Here is the updated table of qualified teams, with their club ranking and pot. LAFC or New England will be added after the MLS Cup Final. If Columbus wins the final they will get a first round bye, and New England will qualify and go into Pot 1. If LAFC win the final they will get a first round bye, and Columbus will be in Pot 1.

[narduch]

New England Revolution grab the last CCC spot

[narduch]

So who would you want to draw? New England maybe?

 

[SpursFlu]

I think MLS teams are tougher nowadays 

I'll say Chivas is the best draw

[SpursFlu]

Draw tomorrow on Onesoccer?

[MtlMario]

14 hours ago, SpursFlu said:

Draw tomorrow on Onesoccer?

Do not see it on their schedule.