mianjo Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Ottawa Citizen says Ryan Richter to Tampa Bay with Heinnemann Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yothat Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 It looks like the Fury are paying less than the other NASL teams. Players are getting higher offers, As simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeelaw Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Damn, fucking shit show in Ottawa right now. Was this the start of a free agent window or something? All of this news at once? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Now it's being announced that Philip Dos Santos is an assistant with Fort Lauderdale. After all the momentum the Fury had made with their run to the Soccer Bowl, this offseason is just a shit show for the club. What's the point of competing in a league when you just refuse to compete for players or coaches and let them walk for more money? http://www.strikers.com/news/2015/12/15/phillip-dos-santos-headlines-technical-staff-appointments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kibby Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 jesus fucking christ,,, sorry for my language but really wtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Jesus if it couldn't get any worse now Sparky the team mascot has been transferred to Edmonton to try and put more people in the stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mianjo Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 A is offered $100,00 US to play for ? or $100,00 CDN to play for Fury where do you think A is going to go. Remember all the money coming into the Fury such as sponsors/tickets etc is in CDN$ which means it is costing them almost 30% more to pay the equivalent as a US team has to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 8 minutes ago, mianjo said: A is offered $100,00 US to play for ? or $100,00 CDN to play for Fury where do you think A is going to go. Remember all the money coming into the Fury such as sponsors/tickets etc is in CDN$ which means it is costing them almost 30% more to pay the equivalent as a US team has to pay. The only thing that might be cheaper for Ottawa and Edmonton may be healthcare (at least I hope the provinces cover the players instead of the clubs). There was an article (I forget where) saying that NASL teams didn't always cover everything for medical insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 So the club is cutting back on wages. Either they didn't make enough at the gate last year, they gave away a ton of tickets, or the team is just being cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 10 minutes ago, BuzzAndSting said: So the club is cutting back on wages. Either they didn't make enough at the gate last year, they gave away a ton of tickets, or the team is just being cheap. Players are getting paid in CAD and now see how our dollar has plumetted compared to the American one and they want to play down South now. I'm sure that FC Edmonton has the same problem. Difference is with Edmonton is that most of their players wouldn't get a look elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1996 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Well it looks like they are not making enough money because why would they be letting go so many of their better players, not a good look for the Fury it can have an effect on attendance where fans will see this as a franchise in trouble financially and on the verge of going under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mianjo Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Chris Hoffley has reported "Dalglish said: "We made Richie Ryan an offer to be our high-ever paid player and he turned it down" If a player wants to leave there is not much you can do about it, both Ryan and Richter were under contract to the Fury for 2016 and still wanted out, at least the Fury have been financially compensated for those 2 players. It was reported that Heinnemann's contract was for $150,000, with Tampa, that is about a fifth of the complete Fury player budget. Ottawa cant compete with that, unless they can get some sugar daddy to come in and finance them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwell Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Can't blame the players leaving for contracts that pay more and in US dollars, especially those with families. Can't blame the owner(s), either. Pugh and company absolutely have to run the club within revenue projections, while paying US dollars for state-side travelling costs; in fact, it worse than that because next year that includes travel to Porto Rico twice. I can't see either Edmonton or Ottawa surviving, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mianjo Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 More bad news Chris Hofley Verified account @chrishofley Fury defender Colin Falvey has a clause in his contract that gives him an out, only if exercised by midnight tonight, apparently. If he goes i can see Alves not wanting to stay either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Protega Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Everything going on with the club right now really makes me appreciate what MDS was able to do with the team this past season. I always got the sense that a big portion of the tickets were giveaways, and I think the club's decision to schedule most games for Sunday afternoons really hurt (paid) attendance. Some games were unbearably hot, plus people tend to be busier with family commitments on Sunday afternoons. I think the explanation for the scheduling was that they couldn't get the football lines off the turf in time for a Saturday evening game if the Redblacks played on a Friday, but the semi-final game showed that it's obviously possible to get the field ready. Granted, the labour involved would be greater, but I got the feeling that attendance would have been much better with Saturday evening games. And let's be honest, it's not a matter of ownership not being able to afford to put together a stronger team - it comes down to the group being unwilling to put any money into it. As for developing players internally, there's no way that can happen under their current structure. Taking 15 - 19 year olds (and charging them to play) is way too late to develop a player. Problem is, the original Fury burned too many bridges with the local clubs for the current Fury to be able to get back into youth development. The whole reason they scrapped their teams at the younger ages was to avoid competing with the local clubs and thereby gain their support in promoting the Fury to the local clubs' members. But if the Fury were to get back into the younger age groups, they would likely lose the support they are currently getting in giving tickets away. Even after scrapping their younger teams, there were grumblings among local clubs about the Fury going out of their way to push kids to one specific club (most likely done to specifically to spite another club). In my opinion, if ownership is unwilling to spend the money to field a decent team, then the only remaining option is to develop their own players. In that case, the first step would have to be for Pugh to take his ego and personal vendettas and go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fussball_eh Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 You may "enjoy" listening to our The Mass Exodus Special [Ours Is The Fury PODCAST] on this very topic: http://www.rednationonline.ca/Podcasts2015/OursistheFuryThemassexodusspecial.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mianjo Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Chris Hofley @chrishofley CONFIRMED: Colin Falvey is still a member of Ottawa Fury.#FuryFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fussball_eh Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 2 hours ago, mianjo said: Chris Hofley @chrishofley CONFIRMED: Colin Falvey is still a member of Ottawa Fury.#FuryFC For now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mianjo Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 De Guzman and Eustaquio re-sign http://www.ottawafuryfc.com/news/2015/12/16/canadian-internationals-re-sign-with-fury-fc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mianjo Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Fury FC prez John Pugh to fans: "Be patient, trust us -- there's some very exciting things coming down the pipe." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 30 minutes ago, mianjo said: De Guzman and Eustaquio re-sign http://www.ottawafuryfc.com/news/2015/12/16/canadian-internationals-re-sign-with-fury-fc Fantastic! From a Voyageurs point of view, these are the players on the Fury that I want to see, along with Haworth. Appreciating that Fury supporters are upset with losing Heinemann, Ryan, Ubiparipovic, and others, I would have been much more upset if either of these two players had left, especially Eustaquio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Still losing half of your 14 players who tallied 1000 minutes will hurt your team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 No doubt. But as someone who cares primarily about the Canadian players on the Fury, these were the important signings to me. I don't give a damn about Tommy Heinemann. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mianjo Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 The Fury now have officially 11 players, 3 goalies, 3 defenders, 3 midfielders and 2 forwards. Of the 3 goalies we know Peiser will play every minute as long as he is healthy, the 3 defenders Alves, Falvey and Trafford will play every minute if not injured or as Fussball_eh hints Falvey might not be here, and if he is not i doubt Alves would stay. Anyway 3 midfielders De Guzman, Eustaquio and Poltronieri. Eustaquio and De Guzman should play every minute if healthy or not involved in Team Canada games, Poltronieri was only a part timer this season and was last year with Atlanta. 2 forwards Haworth and Paulo scored a grand total of 6 goals, Paolo did play in 29 out of 30 games and Haworth in 26 of 30 games this past season so should be involved in most games. So basically we have a goalie, 3 defenders, 2 midfilders and 2 forwards and 1 sub goalie and 1 sub midfielder. 8 starters and 2 subs. We are alittle short of players. I really cant see any US based players wanting to move north unless they are being paid in US$ and then that is going to open up a whole new can of worms for the Cdn based players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted December 17, 2015 Share Posted December 17, 2015 2 hours ago, mianjo said: Fury FC prez John Pugh to fans: "Be patient, trust us -- there's some very exciting things coming down the pipe." This confirms it! C-League is happening!!!!! Lol, what else can explain the mass exodus of American players .....and what else can possibly be on the level of "exciting" as a C-league annoucement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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