Tuscan Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 According to a Canadian Press article, we've been denied a top seed at Women's World Cup Germany next summer. Before I lose it and start sending hate mail to FIFA and CONCACAF, how has FIFA gone about deciding top seeds for past WWCs? This time around they're going by World Ranking, meaning the US gains the top seed and we go in as 9th ranked. Quite frankly, that is ****ing bull**** and if the CSA doesn't man up and protest this, then methinks we'll have to draft up an official response on behalf of the Voyageurs regarding our disappointment in their lack of having balls. I know we're bidding for 2015, and that doing something like this could possibly hinder our chances, but damnit all, this decision to go by World Ranking could **** us over in a tournament we can potentially win. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 FIFA always uses ranking to seed the pots, for men's and women's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFCRegina Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 FIFA always uses ranking to seed the pots, for men's and women's. Not always for the men's but usually. 2010 WC they used rankings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpfan68 Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Seedings are usually based on a teams "body of works" i.e. rankings. I can't see the NCAA giving a top seed to an average team that upsets an undefeated basketball team currently ranked number 1 to a top seed in the NCAA tourney. Besides, Canada didn't even play the US in the qualifing tournament. By your logic, Mexico should be seeded higher than the U.S. I just hope for a favourable draw. Something like Japan (5) Canada (9) Coloumbia (32) England (10) I might have place Equatorial Guinea (62) instead of Coloumbia but I am somewhat afraid of that squad. What do you think would be the most favourable group for Canada? My Canadian group of death would be: Brazil (3) Canada (9) Nigeria (27) Sweden (4) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 This is nothing to be upset about. Seriously, the yanks lost ONE game to the Mexicans IN mexico on a dodgy undersized plastic pitch. They have absolutely owned us, the mexicans, and nearly everyone in the world. If I remember correctly they've won two straight over Germany who are two time defending world cup champions. USA deserves to be seeded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtlfan Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 EXPLANATION OF DRAW PROCEDURE http://www.fifa.com/womensworldcup/news/newsid=1342287/index.html Winning CONCACAF does not make Canada a top seed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuscan Posted November 29, 2010 Author Share Posted November 29, 2010 This is a bummer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Because there are two AFC teams in our pot (Australia & North Korea) the like-confederation rule translation is only Mexico and Canada can draw Japan. The other caveat is neither of us can draw the Americans. So our odds broker like this: - 50% - Japan (avoiding the top 3 Germany, Brazil, USA) - 25% - Germany - 25% - Brazil I think we'd all take those odds to Vegas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccer9 Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 These draws are quite exciting! So do WNT's send their staff to these draws? In Canada's case they'll practically be on their way to the airport for the Brazil camp/tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 These draws are quite exciting! So do WNT's send their staff to these draws? In Canada's case they'll practically be on their way to the airport for the Brazil camp/tournament. In that case Maestracci will sure take advantage of a trip to Germany accompanied by a 3 Voyageurs (LOL). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpoma Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Disappointing not being a top seed, but it's not a travesty of justice or anything like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 On now - LIVE DRAW - so far: Sylvia Neid, Pia Sundhage, Carolina Morace, Bruno Bini, Eli Landsem, Mercy Akide, Worawi Makudi, mascot Karla Kick - now we're looking at the "w"enues - new Adidas women's world cup match ball - SPEEDCELL - many of the Germans are calling it very quick. - doubt very much it will help them progress but Mexico got the super draw we were hoping for. - opening match of the entire tournament is Germany v. Canada Group A - Germany (#2) - Canada (#9) - Nigeria (#27) - France (#8) Group B - Japan (#5) - New Zealand (#23) - Mexico (#22) - England (#10) Group C - USA (#1) - North Korea (#6) - Colombia (#32) - Sweden (#4) Group D - Brazil (#3) - Australia (#12) - Norway (#7) - Equatorial Guinea (#62) After we get past the French our quarter-final opponent will be Japan or England. After them likely Brazil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtlfan Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 canada group 1 and the opening match in Berlin vs Germany and Nigeria And France group of death I have to go now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoachRich Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Opening game vs Germany. Going to be an exciting start and character builder for Big Red in the opening game playing Germany. Going to get some great TV stats for sure. Hopefully the rest of GA will let the team continue to build momentum going through the groups. Tough start but they can do it :-) GA - Germany - Canada - Nigeria - France Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Thanks for the updates, Vic. Keep them coming. Germany first up and US-North Korea, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viruk42 Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Group D - Brazil - Australia - Norway - Equatorial Guinea Guinea got picked before Nigeria, but were put into group D...did anyone catch why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul-collins Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 So we have to, have to, have to beat France? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hc1 Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Guinea got picked before Nigeria, but were put into group D...did anyone catch why? I think because pot 3 contained columbia, which could not go into group D because they are in the same confederation as Brazil. So the first team picked from that pot that was eligable to go into group D, was automatically put there. At least thats my understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hc1 Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Does this mean that if we finish 2nd in group A, we would play the winner of group B? Or do we know that yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj52 Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 canada group 1 and the opening match in Berlin vs Germany and Nigeria And France group of death I have to go now Look at the rankings, Group of death is Group C. Group A is #2 Group of death Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtlfan Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Berlin Bochum and Dresden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtlfan Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Because Germany does not want to play a team with men, http://www.thestar.com/sports/soccer/article/897232--african-soccer-team-accused-of-fielding-man-in-women-s-championship-game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Yes, A2 plays B1 (England or Japan) in the quarters. Then it gets tougher. And yes, we have to beat France. The French are better quality than England. They have not lost in 15 months (Germany 1-5). A couple of good WPS players (Abily, Bompastor) and some other good young players - Crammer, Thomis, Le Sommer, and Nécib. They have a good captain in Soubeyrand who is pushing 40. Most of the good players play for Olympique Lyonnais who are on a Champions League run and the final is in May in England a month before the World Cup so that could either help or hurt them. We have an edge in goalkeeping, that could be their achilles heel. Group C is definitely the group of death. Half the top 6 in the world. 2010 results in chronological reverse: Germany 8-0 Nigeria 2-1 Australia 5-0 Canada 0-4 USA 2-3 USA 5-0 China 7-0 Finland 4-0 Denmark 3-0 North Korea France 5-0 Poland 3-2 Italy 0-0 Italy 7-0 Serbia 1-0 Iceland 6-0 Estonia 3-0 Croatia 2-0 Switzerland 4-0 Northern Ireland 6-0 Northern Ireland 2-1 Republic of Ireland Nigeria 0-8 Germany 4-2 Equatorial Guinea 5-1 Cameroon 3-0 Tanzania 2-1 South Africa 5-0 Mali 3-1 Côte d'Ivoire 2-1 Côte d'Ivoire 0-3 North Korea 0-1 North Korea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtlfan Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Rail pass for supporters, should be enough to see all 6 matches. Cost German Rail Pass Sale - Buy 3 Days, Get 5 Travelers: 1 Adult $269.00 German Rail Pass Sale - Buy 3 Days, Get 5 $269.00 Countries: Germany Validity: Any 5 Days in 1 Month Class of Service: 2nd Class Total without Shipping $269.00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted November 29, 2010 Share Posted November 29, 2010 Or by rental: http://goo.gl/maps/orXt Jun 26 - Germany @ Berlin Stadium (74,244 - built in 1936) Jun 30 - France @ Bochum (19,226 - built in 1926) Jul 5 - Nigeria @ Dresden (22,933 - built in 2009) Jul 9 - Quarter-final @ Leverkusen (30,000 - built in 1999) Jul 13 - Semi-final @ Moenchengladbach (46,297 - built in 2004) Jul 17 - Final @ Frankfurt (49,240 - built in 2005) Berlin: The opening game will be German insanity. We could use that against them. Berlin - http://www.fifa.com/womensworldcup/destination/stadiums/stadium=33515/index.html Bochum - http://www.fifa.com/womensworldcup/destination/stadiums/stadium=5016082/index.html Dresden - http://www.fifa.com/womensworldcup/destination/stadiums/stadium=572/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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