michaeltfc91 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Is the 2009 edition going to be the same format? They could easily improve it and i would love to see just knockout instead of a group-stage plus more teams. Does anyone know if it will be the same format or when they will change it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnipeg Fury Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 It exceeded everyones expectations this year, so I would be surprised if there were changes in format. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masster Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 I would expect and hope that the format remains the same for this coming year. Allow the tournament to gain in popularity and recognition amongst the fanbase and media before expanding it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bettermirror Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Maybe the Thunder Bay Chill should be invited as the top PDL side??? I KNOW I KNOW it won't happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montreal_FC_fan Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 Keep the format, it's great for the rivalries! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesW Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 I would love to see this expanded, but not much chance of that, is there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Attack Posted August 11, 2008 Share Posted August 11, 2008 As I've mentioned before, a PDL team disbands in August. If they managed to upset everyone and win the Cup they wouldn't even have a team to compete in the Champions League. I would also like to see it expanded as well. Baby steps..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 I don't want to see it expanded until the teams below USL level vastly improve their playing level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ed Posted August 12, 2008 Share Posted August 12, 2008 Thunder Bay features less Cdns than Toronto. I'd rather see them NOT participate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnipeg Fury Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Jamit I would love to see this expanded, but not much chance of that, is there... Ultimately yes, but I don't think it's in the cards for the next few years. Thunder Bay won the PDL, but who says that gives them entrance to the Voyageurs Cup ? How about the champion from the CSL or PCSL ? There are all considered Canadian Third Division, so until they can figure out a way to designate a champion, I don't see how you can fairly say who would gain access. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
italianboy Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 i found this more interesting then the usl season over here, and im sure some tfcers were more interested then the mls season... so dont change it, for now;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 One of the reasons everyone found the competition so interesting was the games were played at a high level and were competitive. Adding even one more team that is of a much lower level will only cheapen the competition in my eyes and make it less interesting. There is a big difference between the situation in Canada and in the European countries that have open competitions. Many of those countries have over 100 professional teams and a large number of amateur teams that are near professional level. In Canada we have 3 professional teams and the amateur teams are truly amateur both in official status and playing level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmcmurph Posted August 13, 2008 Share Posted August 13, 2008 They have set the bar at USL-1 or so it seems. So maybe in the distant future you will see a more FA cup style setup which I would love to see. For now it was very popular and the format worked well so they should keep it as it is. Once we get more USL-1 & 2 teams (and MLS!) they can look at expanding it. The home and away format works great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeltfc91 Posted August 13, 2008 Author Share Posted August 13, 2008 In my opinion i was wondering if they could do the tourney like this: 1st Round being a 2 game aggregate with these teams: TFC, Vancouver paired with Victoria United for winning PCSL (If American team wins, then the best Canadian finish gets in this) THunder Bay Chill for winning USL PDL (If American team wins, then the best Canadian finish gets in this) THen the 2 winners join Montreal (Defending Champs) in the 3 team 4 games each format. * More games, more teams, same competition most likely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coppercanuck Posted August 14, 2008 Share Posted August 14, 2008 I wish some of these top PDL teams would make the jump to the USL-2. Then the questions of skill level might be better answered. If the USL wants to make a statement, because the league will hurt with Seattle leaving and possibly Montreal, Vancouver, Portland and Atlanta, they need a 12 team USL-1 and two USL-2 divisions (east, west). The clubs that have dropped to the PDL is a pure money issue. Back to the Canadian Championship, I have to agree to let it ride for another year in the current format. The CSA should be making a fair sum of money from this event. Montreal will think twice about their schedule next year (a game every 3 days from now until October?). Most games were on TV (in some shape). I hope CBC sees the value and picks them all up next year. I say the 2008 event was a success and all the storylines are written for next year. You can film the promos now; "Canada Day Giant killers back again", "TFC seeks payback on the Impact", "Can the Impact dominate the Whitecaps, again". The only way to expand the V-Cup is to have the CSA make some hard choices about the various leagues. The CSL, PCSL, USL-PDL and the various provincial leagues need to get together somehow and showcase what they have. I thought the Open Canada Cup might be that avenue when it started but it just got sloppy. Try a simpler approach, and FA Cup style with the Canadian clubs of the CSL (13?) and PCSL (9?). Do it with the NCAA March Madness style schedule with 4 teams at one host location to play the 3 games. It could be done in 2 weeks (wed/sat - wed/sat). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Grizzly I don't want to see it expanded until the teams below USL level vastly improve their playing level. There could be one - or a series of - qualification rounds. And besides, if their level is really low, then they shouldn't win, so it shouldn't matter too much. Also, any extra teams means it will go to an elimination format, not the current set-up. If last seasons Voyageurs Cup has taught us anything, it's that there is an appetite in Canada for a league, and there is also solid support for it. Meanwhile, we're selling our souls to get into MLS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted August 20, 2008 Share Posted August 20, 2008 I would think that the format will be the same for 2009. However, if Victoria or another city joins USL-1 in 2010 it will be interesting to see how they accommodate another club. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coppercanuck Posted August 27, 2008 Share Posted August 27, 2008 Boy, it seems like nothing is set in stone beyond 2009. I would love to see if the USL (1 and 2) can keep their act together. The PDL is safe, for players, owners and the NCAA. It will be interesting to see how much poaching will happen. How will the MLS rosters change with the new CBA (2010?)? Ottawa needs an USL-1 team. so do a bunch of other cities. That is the only way to get into the spotlight, once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adma Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 Yes I would like to see future tournaments include one team from a lower division. Maybe have a preliminary round with the top teams from the lower divisions CSL PDL etc, a tournament in one city if it will help reduce travel costs and one match fixtures and then the top team advances into the tournament with MTL, VAN, TOR I'm sure this could be worked out somehow, QUESTION: I'm assuming Canada always is allowed only one Berth into the Champion's league, but what if Toronto FC ever Finished In first place in MLS and/or with the most points in the regular season? I think in the case that that ever happened far down the road that we should get 2 berths although I'm assuming they wouldn't allow that and that's BS. Anyone know about this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Attack Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 TFC can not qualify for the CCL through MLS. No matter how well they do. I actually wonder why someone doesn't step up and try to get a USL1 franchise for 2009. Aren't they desperate for teams in that league? You would have to figure that Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver would have to let that team into the Voyageurs Cup right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adma Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 True, true, Thanks Massive, It would be nice to see Halifax go for a USL 1 team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted August 29, 2008 Share Posted August 29, 2008 I think with things looking like they are for the USL 1st Division, that is to say Vancouver & Montreal going the way of MLS potential USL investors are being scared away. At least in some markets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaeltfc91 Posted September 27, 2008 Author Share Posted September 27, 2008 In 2009, I think the competition should stay the same. In 2010, I think they should add the CSL teams. CSL is professional and by 2010, they should have a Western Division and maybe 20 or so teams. Everyone but TFC Academy and Trois-Rivieres-Attak should enter. Hopefully by then, there will also be Ottawa in MLS. The tourney would then be a straight knockout FA cup like competition. For other improvements, It should rarely ever be referred to as Canadian Championship, and should NEVER be referred to as Canadian Champions League. Everyone should call in the Voyageurs Cup. Also try and get all games live on CBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnipeg Fury Posted September 27, 2008 Share Posted September 27, 2008 quote:Originally posted by michaeltfc91 In 2009, I think the competition should stay the same. In 2010, I think they should add the CSL teams. CSL is professional and by 2010, they should have a Western Division and maybe 20 or so teams. Everyone but TFC Academy and Trois-Rivieres-Attak should enter. Hopefully by then, there will also be Ottawa in MLS. The tourney would then be a straight knockout FA cup like competition. For other improvements, It should rarely ever be referred to as Canadian Championship, and should NEVER be referred to as Canadian Champions League. Everyone should call in the Voyageurs Cup. Also try and get all games live on CBC. The CSL is not professional and I don't see them entering the V-Cup in the near future. CSL is essentially Div 3, similar to PCSL and PDL. I don't see how any one of these leagues can gain enter before another. I think it will remain USL First Division and MLS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottawaguy2009 Posted June 23, 2009 Share Posted June 23, 2009 Now that the CSA has formally recognized(?) the CSL...it begs the question: will the CSL Champ this year partiticipate in next year's V-Cup? I think, in light of the recent MTL-TFC "game", it might be time for a minimum of 4 teams. I also dislike the fact that there are no prairie teams in the cup. I wonder if AB, SK, and MB could work out a tournament format so that the best men's team (amateur, semi-pro) of the 3 prairie provinces, would be sent. The Maritimes could do a similar thing. Then at least we draw in other Canadian soccer fans who have no representation. Being in Ottawa I can attend MTL or TFC games. If I was still in Calgary or Saskatoon - who would I cheer for? It only makes sense. Fellow/former westerners, help me out here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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