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Thanks for starting a thread To70.  You can probably pencil in 2 of the 3 bottom strikers (Akinola, Hamilton, Spencer) to get 10-15 games in USL.  Also it wouldnt surprise me if Chapman, Fraser and Morgan are nailed to the bench and they get 5-10 games with TFC2 just to keep them ready if needed due to injury etc.  Even with the big club demotions it doesnt look like a line up that will win much more than last year.  Hopefully the youngsters get enough minutes to show what they can do.  

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Yeah, clearly Bent's tenure can only be considered a failure. Their roster wasn't much worse than what Alan Koch was dealing with at VWFC2 and Koch got that team into the Western Conference Finals and put a few players into the first team.

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Your favourite player Ben Spencer looks quite decent at this level, so I can finally see now what Vanney sees in him but it's a big step down from MLS and I don't think he is standing out enough in quality terms. A lot of TFC II players look a bit out of their depth, unfortunately, especially in the midfield. Boskovic is the only one who catches the eye for me, but think he is a year or two away.

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3 hours ago, BringBackTheBlizzard said:

Your favourite player Ben Spencer looks quite decent at this level, so I can finally see now what Vanney sees in him but it's a big step down from MLS and I don't think he is standing out enough in quality terms. A lot of TFC II players look a bit out of their depth, unfortunately, especially in the midfield. Boskovic is the only one who catches the eye for me, but think he is a year or two away.

Only watched the first half, but didn't think Spencer looked good at all.  Thought the other striker Telfer looked better.  I thought Boskovic and Romeo looked pretty good, as did Liam Fraser. 

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I was surprised that Boskovic and Romeo (did he have a black eye?) did as well as they did, before the game I thought it might be a slaughter against the vaunted NYRB2 team.  I guess Spencer played better than usual, he at least got a few chances instead of just not scoring.  I especially liked how he picked up that PK ball and looked like he was going to run away with it. How he starts over Hundal I will never know.   Telfer and Kubel looked ok.  Cavalluzzo had a few of his usual outstanding saves.  Not a bad showing on the road, could have been worse.

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Spencer actually has quite good control and ball skills for a player as tall as he is, so I can see why someone would think that he could be a very good target man in a year or two (wasn't obvious to me when I have seen him doing a bit of a pylon impression at MLS level). He's not there yet and may never get there however. Think TFC should think about loaning him out to a lower division team in northern Europe that plays a route one style, because encouraging lots of long balls means TFC II aren't playing a similar style to TFC and that's not good in development terms for the rest of the team. Always think Cavalluzzo looks the part at USL level in terms of getting the angles right and his reflex saves based on agility, but it's a pity he isn't a bit taller as how he would cope with MLS quality dead ball specialists on free kicks and corners is probably the main concern.

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Spencer was both good and bad in this game, the good being his movement and positioning on the field and he's always been a decent passer from what I've seen. The bad is the same old story - he can't finish, even at the USL level (how he then gets inked to an MLS first team contract on this basis is rather puzzling to put it charitably). He missed a PK and two other plays where he was in alone on the keeper, and even on the play leading to the PK he looked like he was actually about to lose control of the ball anyway when he was fouled. It was the exact same as what I've seen the past two years where he misses a ton of glorious scoring opportunities. He's not being employed here purely as a "set-up" man (Telfer did that part of the job really well, setting up Spencer for all of these chances). My guess is they are probably hoping that he will eventually start scoring to be able to complete his game - but I feel that anyone who hadn't had a "special relationship" with Vanney would not have been granted the 1st team contract until they started to prove they could score a bundle at the USL level - whereas it was done the opposite way here - ie. first we'll give you the 1st team contract, then you can prove you can score at the USL level after that. In fact, they've now done that twice since they released him from his original 1st team contract before they re-signed him at another one.

By the way, no sign of Endoh on the roster, who quietly seems to have gone away from TFC altogether....

 

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Its funny that Hundal (13 in last 2 seasons) has proven he can score at the USL level and he sits while the Spencer experiment continues.  And even if we say Spencer is a good passer, ball skills etc, what about Telfer who did the work and set Spencer up on a platter at least twice yesterday?  He gets no love??  If Vanney is averse to playing Hamilton, Rickets or Akinola (in MLS) why would we want to keep Spencer who is a complete clusterF$ck in front of the net, with USL quality defenders on him??  Malik Hamilton, Hundal, Akinola are the future< They should be grooming them for the big club.  Spencer has been given his chance and his second (unearned) chance, now he is just taking minutes from much more promising younger strikers.  

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16 hours ago, Greatest Cockney Rip Off said:

Another poor performance for Ben Spencer. Think this is his 3rd or 4th season with Toronto in USL and still no goals. Given a great opportunity and missed a pk. Also went 1 on 1 with the keeping and ran into him. 

Agree on the sentiment but according to transfermarkt he apparently has one goal in USL against Charlotte last season.

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11 hours ago, Kent said:

Agree on the sentiment but according to transfermarkt he apparently has one goal in USL against Charlotte last season.

Yes, it was scored into an empty net off a rebound from a Jordan Hamilton where the ball was sitting about 6 inches from the goal line (credit to him for hustling to get there before anyone else but if he can  only score goals at the USL level under the circumstances of a wide open net from 6 inches out......)

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29 minutes ago, Gian-Luca said:

Yes, it was scored into an empty net off a rebound from a Jordan Hamilton where the ball was sitting about 6 inches from the goal line (credit to him for hustling to get there before anyone else but if he can  only score goals at the USL level under the circumstances of a wide open net from 6 inches out......)

Haha, awesome. I haven't seen the goal. At least he didn't stub his toe and trip and fall before getting to the ball.

Do you have any idea if his solitary goal in NASL was also a tap in to an open net?

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12 minutes ago, Kent said:

Haha, awesome. I haven't seen the goal. At least he didn't stub his toe and trip and fall before getting to the ball.

Do you have any idea if his solitary goal in NASL was also a tap in to an open net?

No idea, but you can see his solitary goal in a TFC jersey in a competitive match below. You can go to the 2:33 mark for when TFC II starts scoring - first with an Ashtone Morgan goal and then the Spencer one right after it (and then Hamilton scores right after that). It looks like my memory cheated on me a little as the ball was a couple of feet from the goal line rather than 6 inches and it was actually possible for him to hit the keeper (although the chances were slim and the chances of missing the target altogether pretty much non-existent given the proximity to the net):

 

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Saturday March 31st night's game TFC II vs Ottawa Fury has been postponed so BMO Field won't be so stomped up before the CONCACAF Champions game between TFC and Club America on Tuesday.   Not that Friday night's MLS game against Real Salt Lake game won't do that anyway.   

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PITTSBURGH (April 5, 2018) – Pittsburgh Riverhounds SC has announced its originally scheduled road date against Toronto FC II on Saturday, April 7 has been moved to Highmark Stadium. Now scheduled to kick off at 3 p.m. this Saturday, the venue change comes due to unplayable field conditions at BMO Field.

https://www.riverhounds.com/news_art...rer_id=2869741
Appears that TFC II home game in Rochester and Riverhounds 'real' home game are not affected.
Looks like we don't get to see Tim Bez's old club team at home this year.

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April 18, 2018 USL Toronto FC II    0        North Carolina FC  0  

my game report at:    http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/reports18/18tfc245.htm

In a day or so I should add pictures and have a summary of the presser of coach Laurent Guyot and Aidan Daniels (who was called up for the TFC vs Colorado game last weekend).  

Wow Attendance of 110 (my estimate) and 50 from the USL website.  Where were all those hipsters who wanted downtown games?   

just added the post game comments:  

http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/reports18/18tfc246.htm

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Daniels did look alot more confident and played well on the left flank, got in some good runs and crosses.  Mino looked very tricky...I must have missed where and when they picked him up.  But hes an international and 24...so he should be one of the better players.  I hope when Telfer and Dunn come back they get the same confidence boost Daniels did.  Maybe the team can build on the draw and finally score a few goals.  

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On 4/19/2018 at 3:19 PM, Rocket Robin said:

April 18, 2018 USL Toronto FC II    0        North Carolina FC  0  

my game report at:    http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/reports18/18tfc245.htm

 

Your comment that the Jacksonville Armada FC moved to USL along with NCFC is incorrect, the Armada are still a member of the NASL and are playing in the NPSL and US Open Cup this year to stay active with the cancellation of the 2018 NASL season.

 

Indy Eleven are the club that moved for 2018 along with NCFC.

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On ‎2018‎-‎04‎-‎20 at 7:36 PM, CDNFootballer said:

Your comment that the Jacksonville Armada FC moved to USL along with NCFC is incorrect, the Armada are still a member of the NASL and are playing in the NPSL and US Open Cup this year to stay active with the cancellation of the 2018 NASL season.

 

Indy Eleven are the club that moved for 2018 along with NCFC.

Yeah good eye!  I was halfway through a joke about TFC/TFC II goalie Caleb Patterson-Sewell who did play for Jacksonville and the Australian Nat team.  Armada-navy-jump ship-laughter was too good to miss but somewhere in there I edited wrong.  

TFC II were going to play Indy Eleven tonight (Sat April 21st) on the road in the original USL schedule but Indy (from what I read at the time) moved the game to August 22nd when the schedule came out.  TFC II couldn't have known for sure that the TFC run would continue months later.    

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Saw the first half of a 0-0 draw last night with NYRB II. TFC played well defensively, but couldn't generate much, other than Aidan Daniels sending Ben Spencer in all alone but he skied the ball several feet over the net once again. I can see why TFC like the prospects of Noble Okello though - that is one big 17 year old! Once he fills out, hones his skills and technique he could be a very dominant d-mid

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my game report about the TFC II vs NYRB II game at: http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/reports18/18tfc255.htm

then my transcript of the presser after with MOTM goalie Caleb Patterson-Sewell and head coach Laurent Guyot at:  http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/reports18/18tfc256.htm 

uslsoccer.com posted attendance at 117. Quite a comedown from the 26331 at the TFC vs Chicago game that ended 90 minutes earlier. 

 

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