BrennanFan Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Voting for CanadaSoccer.com Fan's Choice begins Soccer fans across the country are asked to vote for their favourite Canadian players in the 2007 CanadaSoccer.com Fan's Choice poll. Voting begins today and runs through 20 January 2008. Fans are asked to vote for one male player and one female player. Fans can select any Canadian player. The list of senior nominees is the same as the list for the 2007 adidas Canadian Players of the Year award. Unlike the player of the year vote (based on performance, voted by coaches and media), the CanadaSoccer.com Fan's Choice is based on popularity. Each fan can make one male selection and one female selection. Fans can email their Fan's Choices to rscott@soccercan.ca with the title "CanadaSoccer.com Fan's Choice" in the subject line. Male Nominees from the Men’s national team / Nominés de l’équipe nationale masculine senior - Julian de Guzman - Scarborough, ON - Dwayne De Rosario -Scarborough, ON - Rob Friend - Rosetown, SK - Ali Gerba - Montréal, QC - Richard Hastings - Prince George, BC - Atiba Hutchinson - North York, ON - Ante Jazic - Halifax, NS - Pat Onstad - Vancouver, BC - Paul Stalteri - Etobicoke, ON - other selection Female Nominees from the Winners – Women’s national team / Nominées de l’équipe nationale feminine senior Winners - Candace Chapman - Ajax, ON - Martina Franko - Squamish, BC - Randee Hermus - Langley, BC - Kristina Kiss - Ottawa, ON - Diana Matheson - Oakville, ON - Erin McLeod - St. Albert, AB - Sophie Schmidt - Abbotsford, BC - Christine Sinclair - Burnaby, BC - Rhian Wilkinson of Baie d’Urfe, QC - other selection *(pretty redundant with our award, especially since we have already been legitimized by the media. maybe next year we can approach the CSA and merge the two). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Maybe the CSA should just let us run the poll for 2008. who do you think the players care to be recognized by more.... The CSA or the Supporters who actually give a damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Will be interesting to see whether the CSA gets more than 74 people submitting votes which the Voyageur's selection was based on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Next year, to ensure a larger number of voters, we need a simple form created and placed on the homepage so people can submit their choice without having to register. thats my 2 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronto MB Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 I, for one, shall boycott this event. A symbol of my disregard for the CSA. We have already made the correct choice in picking Julian, and I shall stand by our award. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 The voyageurs already picked theirs. I'm not gonna vote for the CSA one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 If the CSA did not run such a ballot there are many here who would be all over them for once again being delinquent in their responsibility and failing Canadian soccer fans. No doubt those would be the same people who are scorning the current CSA ballot. Some battles you just can't win. I am quite happy to vote in both ballots, both have their place. And don't forget, the Voyageurs selection represented the choice of a grand total of only 74 people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 /\ Richard, you are not wrong that they have every right to run such a contest but I too will not vote. The V's have made their choice and that's good enough for me. The media can vote with the CSA. We had hoped that they would vote on the V's site but, in general, they did not. Next year, we'll want to appeal to the media more quickly in December and follow up with them more vigorously because it would be great for the V's award to be the only one that matters in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 ^ It's not a question of 'right', you chose to avoid the main point I was making but nevermind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronto MB Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 No doubt their would have been nay-sayers in either case. The point I'm making is that the CSA has rightfully earned their label as "delinquents" and my boycotting their vote is a small token of disgust. Having an online vote, organised by a multi-million dollar government association, that draws only a meager amount of public voting is another sign that there is a problem. And by not voting I am hoping that the CSA will justifiably suffer more of the public embarassment it deserves. Just another small opportunity to make our point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 I don't know. I'm going to vote, and I'd encourage everyone else to as well. Any and every instrument of recognition which the players receive, especially if it's through their often neglectful association, is a good thing. So I'm going to vote and hope that The Guz gets a third award for Mum & Dad's trophy case. I'm sure the CSA poll will be far more popular but I'm not exactly sure if it will be anything especially dramatic. It's a slow time for Canadian football and there is little call for regulars never mind the casually curious to visit either site. However, I would suggest that a massively popular polling (thousands of submissions) would do far more good in our cause for greater priority and financing of the senior national teams than any boycott. Note you have to e-mail your choices in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Boycotting the CSA poll is rather petty and dishonours those players involved in this ballot, is that what you really want? The CSA is Canada's FIFA recognised national soccer body and it is not going away. You might as well accept that and work constructively to make it better. Besides, if the Voyageurs can only get 74 people to participate in a poll, even if all 74 boycott the CSA (and it won't be that many because I have participated in both polls :-) ) the impact will be negligible. You're far more likely to gain some influence by overwhelming the organisation with support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piltdownman Posted January 10, 2008 Share Posted January 10, 2008 "other selection" looks promising. Sounds like a vote for Jonathan de Guzmán or Owen Hargreaves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soju Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Call me cynical but 74 sounds about right for the number of people who know who all those players are, where they all play, their recent histories, and have seen some footage of them all playing. The Voyageurs poll represents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesW Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 I won't vote. Why would I? I mean who are the fans, I thought we were? I get the sense this poll will be for people who have not been following these players. I read on one blog a Scottish guy say he was going to be voting for Richard Hastings because he is the only international on Inverness... And one thing I don't get, when the CSA's website still needs a lot of work, why is Richard Scott spending time counting emails? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Jamit I won't vote. Why would I? I mean who are the fans, I thought we were? I get the sense this poll will be for people who have not been following these players. I read on one blog a Scottish guy say he was going to be voting for Richard Hastings because he is the only international on Inverness... And one thing I don't get, when the CSA's website still needs a lot of work, why is Richard Scott spending time counting emails? Well, I think we're doing a fine job as the only canadian supporters group but the reality is that we aren't alone. A lot of canadian fans don't have the time to be involve with us for different reasons and to me the CSA's poll might be representative as well. I can find you some votes in our poll that were also suggesting a strong bias like your Hasting example. Also, if you re-read the voting thread you'll find some examples of people not voting for some players because of past performances (i.e. Onstad). How objective is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soju Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 How about simply not supporting anything the CSA does until they stop being completely useless? Then we'd at least be on the same page as our players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesW Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Soju How about simply not supporting anything the CSA does until they stop being completely useless? That is taking it a bit too far. Will you not be seeing any WCQ games because the CSA are the ones putting the games on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soju Posted January 11, 2008 Share Posted January 11, 2008 No because that would mean not supporting the players. I support the players completely but boycott the CSA as much as possible. This would include their website, their way too late and often inaccurate press releases/match reports/news and all their other sub par crap a child could've slapped together in a weekend. [)][)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Got to pick your spots... every bad organization has good people. You can vote for a player and still vote for change... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 And there are plenty of good, harworking folks who are part of the CSA, doing the best they can under often very difficult circumstances and as frustrated as the rest of us at the organisation's limitations. Every time you badmouth the CSA you're sticking pins into these folks too, folks who don't deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soju Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Off topic but I'm wondering why we don't openly discuss who are the good hard working folks at the CSA, because we often discuss who are not. Unfortunately you're both completely right, badmouthing the organization will only hurt those who care, because the ones just trying to keep their pay checks won't give a sh1t either way. Can anyone shed more light on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Yes, I too would like to know who are the plenty of good hardworking folks in the CSA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Richard Boycotting the CSA poll is rather petty and dishonours those players involved in this ballot, is that what you really want? quote:Originally posted by Richard And there are plenty of good, harworking folks who are part of the CSA, doing the best they can under often very difficult circumstances and as frustrated as the rest of us at the organisation's limitations. Every time you badmouth the CSA you're sticking pins into these folks too, folks who don't deserve it. Pop a few too many Hyperbole pills there Richard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 ^ In your opinion, I assume therefore that you know better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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