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6 hours ago, jpg75 said:

Ever since you posted about him last year his club (and career) have nose dived. Please don't do the same to Dwight Lodewedges.

Man, it's just not fair. You think it's tough being a Canadian supporter. Just try to imagine what it must be like being a Dutch fan in 2019:

February 13 -- Ajax - Real Madrid

March 5 -- Real Madrid - Ajax

March 24 -- Netherlands - Germany

June 6 --  Netherlands - England

September 6 -- Germany - Netherlands

On the other hand, Canadian supporters have it so much easier:

March 24 -- Canada - French Guiana

??? IT'S JUST NOT FAIR!!!!

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2 hours ago, Robert said:

Man, it's just not fair. You think it's tough being a Canadian supporter. Just try to imagine what it must be like being a Dutch fan in 2019:

February 13 -- Ajax - Real Madrid

March 5 -- Real Madrid - Ajax

March 24 -- Netherlands - Germany

June 6 --  Netherlands - England

September 6 -- Germany - Netherlands

On the other hand, Canadian supporters have it so much easier:

March 24 -- Canada - French Guiana

??? IT'S JUST NOT FAIR!!!!

The "Robert Stink" just ensured an 0-5-0 record un those matches.

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On 12/23/2018 at 5:24 PM, jpg75 said:

The "Robert Stink" just ensured an 0-5-0 record un those matches.

UPDATE FROM THE HAPPY BUS:

Man, it's just not fair. You think it's tough being a Canadian supporter. Just try to imagine what it must be like being a Dutch fan in 2019:

February 13 -- Ajax - Real Madrid 1-2

March 5 -- Real Madrid - Ajax 1-4 ?

March 24 -- Netherlands - Germany

June 6 --  Netherlands - England

September 6 -- Germany - Netherlands

On the other hand, Canadian supporters have it so much easier:

March 24 -- Canada - French Guiana

??? IT'S JUST NOT FAIR!!!!

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On 3/5/2019 at 5:08 PM, Robert said:

UPDATE FROM THE HAPPY BUS:

Man, it's just not fair. You think it's tough being a Canadian supporter. Just try to imagine what it must be like being a Dutch fan in 2019:

February 13 -- Ajax - Real Madrid 1-2

March 5 -- Real Madrid - Ajax 1-4 ?

March 24 -- Netherlands - Germany

June 6 --  Netherlands - England

September 6 -- Germany - Netherlands

On the other hand, Canadian supporters have it so much easier:

March 24 -- Canada - French Guiana

??? IT'S JUST NOT FAIR!!!!

Who gives a flying fuck...this is a Canadian Forum.

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On 12/23/2018 at 5:35 PM, Robert said:

Man, it's just not fair. You think it's tough being a Canadian supporter. Just try to imagine what it must be like being a Dutch fan in 2019:

February 13 -- Ajax - Real Madrid

March 5 -- Real Madrid - Ajax

March 24 -- Netherlands - Germany

June 6 --  Netherlands - England

September 6 -- Germany - Netherlands

On the other hand, Canadian supporters have it so much easier:

March 24 -- Canada - French Guiana

??? IT'S JUST NOT FAIR!!!!

Will those national team games make up for the ones they missed in the summer of 2018?  ?

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On 3/7/2019 at 9:18 AM, jpg75 said:

So, how about that John Van't Schip character? Zwolle 1 point above relegation.

Character. Hmmm. Characters. Hmmmm. Let's take a look at the characters that have coached our national team since we started competing in World Cup competition. We've had:

8 Canadian coaches - we all know Canadian coaches aren't exactly in high demand internationally!

5 English coaches - Canadian soccer has absolutely nothing in common with English soccer!

2 German coaches - Canadian soccer has absolutely nothing in common with German soccer!

1 Scottish coach  - what has Scotland ever done internationally?

1 Trinidadian coach - what has Trinidad ever done internationally?

1 Portuguese coach -  Canadian soccer has absolutely nothing in common with Portuguese soccer!

1 Spanish coach -  Canadian soccer has absolutely nothing in common with Spanish soccer!

1 Ecuadorean coach - what has Ecuador ever done internationally?

So that leaves Dutch coaches. Why haven't we ever tried a Dutchman as a coach for the national team? What do we have in common with the Dutch. Well, for starters were both small fry in big ponds. The Dutch are a small country at the elite level, while Canada is a small country at the not so elite level. However, while the Dutch have figured out is how a small country can be successful against the bigger boys, Canada meanwhile continues to fuck around and struggle at the minnow level of CONCACAF! Why not hire someone who is used to working in an small environment, and knows how to be successful in the big-times?

Canadian National Team Managers history

Name Nation From To
Don Petrie 23px-Canadian_Red_Ensign_%281957%E2%80%9 Canada 1957 1957
Peter Dinsdale 23px-Flag_of_England.svg.png England 1968 1970
Frank Pike 23px-Flag_of_England.svg.png England 1970 1973
Eckhard Krautzun 23px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png West Germany 1973 1977
Barrie Clarke 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 1979 1981
Tony Waiters 23px-Flag_of_England.svg.png England 1981 1985
Bruce Wilson (interim) 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 1985 1985
Tony Waiters 23px-Flag_of_England.svg.png England 1985 1986
Bob Bearpark 23px-Flag_of_England.svg.png England 1986 1987
Tony Taylor 23px-Flag_of_Scotland.svg.png Scotland 1988 1989
Bob Lenarduzzi 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 1989 1990
Tony Waiters 23px-Flag_of_England.svg.png England 1990 1991
Bob Lenarduzzi 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 1992 1997
Bruce Twamley (interim) 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 1998 1998
Holger Osieck 23px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png Germany 1999 2003
Colin Miller (interim) 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada Fall 2003 Fall 2003
Frank Yallop 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 2004 June 2006
Stephen Hart (interim) 23px-Flag_of_Trinidad_and_Tobago.svg.png Trinidad and Tobago July 2006 June 2007
Dale Mitchell 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada June 2007 March 2009
Stephen Hart (interim) 23px-Flag_of_Trinidad_and_Tobago.svg.png Trinidad and Tobago April 2009 December 2009
Stephen Hart 23px-Flag_of_Trinidad_and_Tobago.svg.png Trinidad and Tobago December 2009 October 2012
Colin Miller (interim) 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada January 2013 January 2013
Tony Fonseca (interim) 23px-Flag_of_Portugal.svg.png Portugal March 2013 March 2013
Colin Miller (interim) 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada May 2013 July 2013
Benito Floro 23px-Flag_of_Spain.svg.png Spain August 2013 September 2016
Michael Findlay (interim) 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada September 2016 March 2017
Octavio Zambrano 23px-Flag_of_Ecuador.svg.png Ecuador March 2017 January 2018
John Herdman 23px-Flag_of_England.svg.png England January 2018  
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5 hours ago, Robert said:

Character. Hmmm. Characters. Hmmmm. Let's take a look at the characters that have coached our national team since we started competing in World Cup competition. We've had:

8 Canadian coaches - we all know Canadian coaches aren't exactly in high demand internationally!

5 English coaches - Canadian soccer has absolutely nothing in common with English soccer!

2 German coaches - Canadian soccer has absolutely nothing in common with German soccer!

1 Scottish coach  - what has Scotland ever done internationally?

1 Trinidadian coach - what has Trinidad ever done internationally?

1 Portuguese coach -  Canadian soccer has absolutely nothing in common with Portuguese soccer!

1 Spanish coach -  Canadian soccer has absolutely nothing in common with Spanish soccer!

1 Ecuadorean coach - what has Ecuador ever done internationally?

So that leaves Dutch coaches. Why haven't we ever tried a Dutchman as a coach for the national team? What do we have in common with the Dutch. Well, for starters were both small fry in big ponds. The Dutch are a small country at the elite level, while Canada is a small country at the not so elite level. However, while the Dutch have figured out is how a small country can be successful against the bigger boys, Canada meanwhile continues to fuck around and struggle at the minnow level of CONCACAF! Why not hire someone who is used to working in an small environment, and knows how to be successful in the big-times?

Canadian National Team Managers history

Name Nation From To
Don Petrie 23px-Canadian_Red_Ensign_%281957%E2%80%9 Canada 1957 1957
Peter Dinsdale 23px-Flag_of_England.svg.png England 1968 1970
Frank Pike 23px-Flag_of_England.svg.png England 1970 1973
Eckhard Krautzun 23px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png West Germany 1973 1977
Barrie Clarke 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 1979 1981
Tony Waiters 23px-Flag_of_England.svg.png England 1981 1985
Bruce Wilson (interim) 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 1985 1985
Tony Waiters 23px-Flag_of_England.svg.png England 1985 1986
Bob Bearpark 23px-Flag_of_England.svg.png England 1986 1987
Tony Taylor 23px-Flag_of_Scotland.svg.png Scotland 1988 1989
Bob Lenarduzzi 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 1989 1990
Tony Waiters 23px-Flag_of_England.svg.png England 1990 1991
Bob Lenarduzzi 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 1992 1997
Bruce Twamley (interim) 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 1998 1998
Holger Osieck 23px-Flag_of_Germany.svg.png Germany 1999 2003
Colin Miller (interim) 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada Fall 2003 Fall 2003
Frank Yallop 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada 2004 June 2006
Stephen Hart (interim) 23px-Flag_of_Trinidad_and_Tobago.svg.png Trinidad and Tobago July 2006 June 2007
Dale Mitchell 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada June 2007 March 2009
Stephen Hart (interim) 23px-Flag_of_Trinidad_and_Tobago.svg.png Trinidad and Tobago April 2009 December 2009
Stephen Hart 23px-Flag_of_Trinidad_and_Tobago.svg.png Trinidad and Tobago December 2009 October 2012
Colin Miller (interim) 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada January 2013 January 2013
Tony Fonseca (interim) 23px-Flag_of_Portugal.svg.png Portugal March 2013 March 2013
Colin Miller (interim) 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada May 2013 July 2013
Benito Floro 23px-Flag_of_Spain.svg.png Spain August 2013 September 2016
Michael Findlay (interim) 23px-Flag_of_Canada_%28Pantone%29.svg.pn Canada September 2016 March 2017
Octavio Zambrano 23px-Flag_of_Ecuador.svg.png Ecuador March 2017 January 2018
John Herdman 23px-Flag_of_England.svg.png England January 2018  

Really...you see similarities between Canadian and Dutch soccer? The only thing we have in common is the fact that we haven't won fuck all. Do yourself a favor and step out of that Amsterdam hash bar  and get some fresh air. You my friend are hiiiiiiigh.

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UPDATE FROM THE AMSTERDAM HASH BAR:

Man, it's just not fair. You think it's tough being a Canadian supporter. Just try to imagine what it must be like being a Dutch fan in 2019:

February 13 -- Ajax - Real Madrid 1-2

March 5 -- Real Madrid - Ajax 1-4 ?

March 24 -- Netherlands - Germany

April 10 -- Ajax - Juventus

April 16 -- Juventus - Ajax

June 6 --  Netherlands - England

September 6 -- Germany - Netherlands

On the other hand, Canadian supporters have it so much easier:

March 24 -- Canada - French Guiana

??? IT'S JUST NOT FAIR!!!!

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On 3/7/2019 at 9:18 AM, jpg75 said:

So, how about that John Van't Schip character? Zwolle 1 point above relegation.

John has been out of a job for a couple of months already. Now would be the perfect time for the CSA to contact him. You don't really expect a woman's coach to be able to do a men's coaching job, do you? Although, knowing the CSA, it won't matter how poorly John Herdman's does with the CMNT  over the next year, because he doesn't have to earn the right to be Canada's coach at the 2026 World Cup Final, because he already has that job wrapped up no matter what!!! 

BTW it's Ship, not Schip.

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9 hours ago, jpg75 said:

Feijenoord or Feyenoord? Schip/Ship? Anyhow, I'm not about to start a discussion on "Oud Nederlands."

You can dodge the key facts all you want with your meaningless banter.

The fact (at least the one that matters) remains that John van 't Schip/Ship. is out of a job. Former Dutch international Jaap Stam has taken over at PEC, although after starting out with 3 consecutive victories with PEC, he will be moving to Feijenoord/Feyenoord this summer. Anyhow, I have long given up on Canadians listening to the experience of others. Obviously, Canadians really know what the fuck they're doing when it comes to soccer, right? It is also a fact that John Herdman ain't (I know, wikipedia will tell you that's not good English) gonna do Jack Shit with the National Team once we face Costa Rica, Honduras or the likes. Getting a result against French Guiana will be as good as it gets under his tenure!

Herdman: Canada will qualify for 2022 World Cup

 https://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/herdman-canada-can-qualify-2022-world-cup-compete-2026/

There you go. Herdman has made his prediction, and I have made mine. Now let's see who's right.

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John Van't Schip is Canadian ! John “happy planet world bullshitter” Herdman is not ! We should be pushing harder for Van't Schip hiring! Canadians should be supporting Canadians! Not English  pompous pricks who force their way by  threatening to leave one program for another. This would never happen in real soccer nations. The best part he wasn’t  threatening to leave for another men’s nations squad. It was for the women’s English team. Man they should make a movie about that. 

If herdman falls at the GC - off with Herdman’s , Reed’s and that  slimy looking  Montopoli ( man that guy looks creepy ! Wannabe  mobster ! )  heads !!!

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For better or worse he is our manager right now.  Don’t like how he got the position but it is done and the CSA won’t be dropping him unless we fail to qualify for 2022.

The only way he is gone after the Gold Cup is if we get destroyed in all round robin games, and with the talent we now possess that would be an impossibility.

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18 minutes ago, Club Linesman said:

For better or worse he is our manager right now.  Don’t like how he got the position but it is done and the CSA won’t be dropping him unless we fail to qualify for 2022.

The only way he is gone after the Gold Cup is if we get destroyed in all round robin games, and with the talent we now possess that would be an impossibility.

 I have a gut feeling even if we  don’t qualify for 2022 he’ll still be there. But if FIFA is really making it to 48 teams. Really There is no excuse

Herdman is like crazy bitchy stupid girlfriend who will hang around and suck you dry ( not in a good way) and promise the world and act like a know it all, when really he’s just dumb ....

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37 minutes ago, SpecialK said:

Herdman is like crazy bitchy stupid girlfriend who will hang around and suck you dry ( not in a good way) and promise the world and act like a know it all, when really he’s just dumb ....

Maybe you need to step away from the Internet for a while.

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1 hour ago, SpecialK said:

 I have a gut feeling even if we  don’t qualify for 2022 he’ll still be there. But if FIFA is really making it to 48 teams. Really There is no excuse

Herdman is like crazy bitchy stupid girlfriend who will hang around and suck you dry ( not in a good way) and promise the world and act like a know it all, when really he’s just dumb ....

Like if you really feel like you have to publicly behave like a crazy bitchy stupid girlfriend, why not go all the way and promise us that Canada will win the World Cup in 2026??? I'm sure that the ink on Herdman's CSA contract, tying him to the MNT until after the 2026 World Cup Final, dried the day he made his prediction! 

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