Robert Posted February 3, 2018 Author Share Posted February 3, 2018 There being no such thing as a salary cap in the Eredivisie, makes John van 't Ship's first-year accomplishments all the more remarkable, no? CLUBS OF THE EREDIVISIE 17/18 Club(s) Squad Age Foreign players Total market value ø Market value 472 24,5 Years 191 £637.29m £1.35m Ajax Amsterdam 28 23,4 14 £142.38m £5.09m PSV Eindhoven 24 23,0 11 £106.07m £4.42m Feyenoord Rotterdam 27 24,0 9 £90.50m £3.35m AZ Alkmaar 27 23,9 6 £44.44m £1.65m FC Utrecht 27 24,7 12 £33.84m £1.25m SC Heerenveen 23 24,6 10 £31.50m £1.37m Vitesse Arnhem 26 25,2 10 £24.57m £945k PEC Zwolle 24 25,5 7 £21.02m £876k FC Groningen 19 23,6 9 £20.97m £1.10m FC Twente Enschede 28 24,6 15 £20.54m £734k ADO Den Haag 26 25,1 7 £15.46m £595k Heracles Almelo 28 24,9 9 £14.92m £533k Willem II Tilburg 29 24,4 15 £14.83m £511k Sparta Rotterdam 28 24,8 11 £11.84m £423k Excelsior Rotterdam 25 26,0 7 £11.79m £472k NAC Breda 30 23,0 17 £11.77m £392k Roda JC Kerkrade 26 25,3 15 £11.12m £428k VVV-Venlo 26 24,6 6 £9.54m £367k Dutch Eredivisie 2017/2018 GP W D L F A GD P 1PSV Eindhoven 20 17 1 2 53 22 +31 52 2Ajax Amsterdam 20 14 3 3 56 17 +39 45 3AZ Alkmaar 20 13 3 4 37 20 +17 42 4Feyenoord Rotterdam 20 10 6 4 41 20 +21 36 5PEC Zwolle 20 10 6 4 28 23 +5 36 6Vitesse Arnhem 21 9 7 5 36 24 +12 34 7FC Utrecht 20 8 7 5 29 30 -1 31 8Heerenveen 20 7 6 7 28 32 -4 27 9ADO Den Haag 20 8 3 9 27 32 -5 27 10VVV Venlo 20 6 8 6 24 27 -3 26 11Excelsior 20 7 3 10 25 31 -6 24 12SC Heracles Almelo 20 6 5 9 30 42 -12 23 13FC Groningen 21 5 7 9 34 36 -2 22 14Willem II Tilburg 20 4 5 11 28 43 -15 17 15FC Twente 20 4 4 12 25 36 -11 16 16NAC Breda 20 4 4 12 20 37 -17 16 17Roda JC Kerkrade 20 4 3 13 20 42 -22 15 18Sparta Rotterdam 20 2 5 13 16 43 -27 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Robert, can you tell us what John ate for breakfast today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrennanFan Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 This thread is just so odd. I dont care where he was born, he has been involved in soccer his whole life and has never had anything to do with Canada nor has he ever suggested he would be interested. He is not Canadian, he is dutch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 On 2/2/2018 at 4:14 PM, jpg75 said: Robert, can you tell us what John ate for breakfast today? Actually, John is suffering from a bit of gas tonight. Whether the cause of his vapors was as a result of his stack of flapjacks, coated with Canadian maple syrup, side of Canadian bacon, and double-double cuppa Tim's breakfast this morning, or the 4-0 defeat PEC inflicted by PSV this afternoon, is still under investigation. By the way, all four PSV goals were scored after second-string keeper Mickey van der Hart, playing for the red-card suspended first-sting keeper Diederik Boer, was red-carded himself, and 20-year old third-string keeper Mike Hauptmeijer was thrown into the fray in the 43rd minute. PEC next macth at home, on Tuesday, against 8th place Heerenveen, could prove to be the crucial pivoting-point of the season for PEC and John van 't Ship. This will be PEC's fourth match in 10 days, and thus far the club has lost all of the first three. PEC currently enjoys a 6-point advantage over Heereveen for the 7th and final play-off spot, with 13 matches remaining in the regular season. That's it John. No more flapjacks for the next three days, that's for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Robert said: PEC next macth at home, on Tuesday, against 8th place Heerenveen, could prove to be the crucial pivoting-point of the season for PEC and John van 't Ship. This will be PEC's fourth match in 10 days, and thus far the club has lost all of the first three. His luck seemed to change for the worse after you started this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 4 hours ago, jpg75 said: His luck seemed to change for the worse after you started this thread. The curse of Chub Stanley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 4 hours ago, jpg75 said: His luck seemed to change for the worse after you started this thread. Yeah, and maybe Canada will win the next World Cup if I move back to Holland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Robert said: Yeah, and maybe Canada will win the next World Cup if I move back to Holland. It's worth a shot. BTW what are you doing up at this hour, you should be in bed (fatherly advise) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Robert said: Yeah, and maybe Canada will win the next World Cup if I move back to Holland. Start a Go Fund Me campaign and we'll make it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted February 4, 2018 Author Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Joe MacCarthy said: It's worth a shot. BTW what are you doing up at this hour, you should be in bed (fatherly advise) This is why I get up at 4 a.m. on a Sunday morning; to feed the cat and to tell you that I love you Dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Go Fund Me, can I use Paypal for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 51 minutes ago, Robert said: This is why I get up at 4 a.m. on a Sunday morning; to feed the cat and to tell you that I love you Dad. I'm trying to get Papa Francesco to put a Papal Ban on cats because they are addictive and evil, hence the term Cat holic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted February 6, 2018 Author Share Posted February 6, 2018 An Eredivisie update: PEC Zwolle defeated Heerenveen 3-2, at home today, snapping a 2-game Ere-divisie slide. With the victory, John van 't Ship's team moved back into fourth place in the standings, 3 point ahead of Feijenoord, who hold a game in hand over the club from Zwolle. More importantly, PEC have now moved 9 points clear of Heerenveen for the 7th and final play-off spot, with each club having 12 matches remaining in their respective schedules. PEC and Canadian-born John van 't Ship are right back at it this Saturday, when they visit 7th place FC Utrecht. PEC Zwolle - sc Heerenveen 3-2 (2-0). Toeschouwers: 12.920 Scheidsrechter: Van Boekel Gele kaarten: Dekker (PEC Zwolle), Bulthuis, Dumfries (sc Heerenveen) Opstellingen: PEC Zwolle: Boer, Ehizibue, Marcellis, Sandler, Freire, Dekker, Saymak (90. Bakker), Thomas, Namli, Marinus (74. Menig), Mokhtar sc Heerenveen: Hansen, Dumfries, Høegh, Pierie, Bulthuis (60. Woudenberg), Schaars, Kobayashi (46. Thorsby), Van Amersfoort (78. Veerman), Ødegaard, Ghoochannejhad, Zeneli Scoreverloop: 23.Marinus 1-0 28.Namli 2-0 69.Dumfries 2-1 73.Saymak 3-1 80.Ghoochannejhad 3-2 Djopzz man of the match: Youness Mokhtar Stand G P W G V DV DT 1 PSV 21 55 18 1 2 57 22 2 Ajax 21 48 15 3 3 59 18 3 AZ 21 43 13 4 4 39 22 4 PEC Zwolle 22 39 11 6 5 31 29 5 Feyenoord 21 36 10 6 5 41 21 6 Vitesse 21 34 9 7 5 36 24 7 FC Utrecht 21 32 8 8 5 31 32 8 sc Heerenveen 22 30 8 6 8 31 35 9 VVV-Venlo 21 29 7 8 6 25 27 10 ADO Den Haag 21 28 8 4 9 28 33 11 Excelsior 21 25 7 4 10 27 33 12 Heracles Almelo 21 24 6 6 9 31 43 13 FC Groningen 21 22 5 7 9 34 36 14 Willem II 21 17 4 5 12 28 44 15 FC Twente 21 16 4 4 13 25 37 16 NAC Breda 21 16 4 4 13 21 40 17 Roda JC Kerkrade 21 16 4 4 13 22 44 18 Sparta Rotterdam 21 14 3 5 13 17 43 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted February 10, 2018 Author Share Posted February 10, 2018 Eredivisie update: Thus far, 2018 has not been kind to PEC Zwolle, as John van 't Ship has another tough day at the office, losing 1-2 to FC Utrecht. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted February 11, 2018 Author Share Posted February 11, 2018 The battle for Eredivisie play-off spots are really heating up. With eleven rounds remaining in the schedule, the 4 play-off spots are sererated by just 2 points. John van 't Ship and PEC, who are 7 points clear of 8th place ADO Den Haag, face another tough challenge next Sunday, when the club from Zwolle hosts second place Ajax. Pos Team v t e Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts Qualification or relegation 1 PSV Eindhoven 23 20 1 2 60 23 +37 61 Qualification to Champions League third qualifying round 2 Ajax 23 17 3 3 65 21 +44 54 Qualification to Champions League Second qualifying round 3 AZ 23 14 5 4 43 22 +21 47 Qualification to Europa League Second qualifying round 4 Feyenoord 23 11 6 6 45 24 +21 39 Qualification to European competition play-offs[a] 5 PEC Zwolle 23 11 6 6 32 31 +1 39 6 Utrecht 23 10 8 5 34 33 +1 38 7 Vitesse 23 10 7 6 39 26 +13 37 8 ADO Den Haag 23 9 5 9 29 33 −4 32 9 Heerenveen 23 8 7 8 32 36 −4 31 10 VVV-Venlo 23 7 9 7 25 30 −5 30 11 Heracles Almelo 23 7 6 10 33 49 −16 27 12 Excelsior 23 7 5 11 27 34 −7 26 13 Groningen 23 5 8 10 34 39 −5 23 14 Willem II 23 5 5 13 31 45 −14 20 15 NAC Breda 23 5 5 13 27 41 −14 20 16 Roda JC Kerkrade 23 4 5 14 25 49 −24 17 Qualification to Relegation play-offs 17 Twente[c] 23 4 4 15 26 43 −17 16 18 Sparta Rotterdam 23 3 5 15 18 46 −28 14 Relegation to Eerste Divisie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 During the renaissance Dutch painters were among the most celebrated and famed. This is Night Watch by Rembrandt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Peiter Bruigel led the way for the others in the 16th Century. He was inspired by the Italian masters of his time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 1 hour ago, jpg75 said: During the renaissance Dutch painters were among the most celebrated and famed. This is Night Watch by Rembrandt Ever see the film about this piece by Peter Greenaway. Pretty solid work of cinema. Shame Dutch cinema isn't as rich....that said Paul Verhoeven is a brilliant director and I wish people took his works more seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted February 12, 2018 Author Share Posted February 12, 2018 1 hour ago, jpg75 said: During the renaissance Dutch painters were among the most celebrated and famed. This is Night Watch by Rembrandt Nice to see a bit of culture here by another Dutch master. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 13 minutes ago, Robert said: Nice to see a bit of culture here by another Dutch master. Want some more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted February 12, 2018 Author Share Posted February 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, matty said: Want some more? Kinda reminds me more of a Team Canada San Pedro Sula highlight reel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Robert said: Kinda reminds me more of a Team Canada San Pedro Sula highlight reel. I dunno, Canada actually scored whereas Murphy just his hand blown off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Posted February 19, 2018 Author Share Posted February 19, 2018 PEC Zwolle - Ajax 0-1 With their recent string of poor results, it is now time for PEC and John van 't Ship to start looking in their rear-view mirror. On the bright side, for the final 10 matches of their schedule PEC only face 2 more opponents that are ahead of them in the standings. League table Pos Team Pld W D L GF GA GD Pts Qualification or relegation 1 PSV Eindhoven 24 20 2 2 62 25 +37 62 Qualification to Champions League third qualifying round 2 Ajax 24 18 3 3 66 21 +45 57 Qualification to Champions League Second qualifying round 3 AZ 24 15 5 4 46 23 +23 50 Qualification to Europa League Second qualifying round 4 Feyenoord 24 12 6 6 46 24 +22 42 Qualification to European competition play-offs 5 Utrecht 24 11 8 5 38 34 +4 41 6 PEC Zwolle 24 11 6 7 32 32 0 39 7 Vitesse 24 10 7 7 40 28 +12 37 8 ADO Den Haag 24 10 5 9 31 34 −3 35 9 Heerenveen 24 8 8 8 34 38 −4 32 10 VVV-Venlo 24 7 10 7 26 31 −5 31 11 Excelsior 24 8 5 11 29 35 −6 29 12 Heracles Almelo 24 7 6 11 33 50 −17 27 13 Groningen 24 5 9 10 35 40 −5 24 14 Willem II 24 5 5 14 32 47 −15 20 15 NAC Breda 24 5 5 14 28 44 −16 20 16 Twente 24 4 5 15 27 44 −17 17 Qualification to Relegation play-offs 17 Roda JC Kerkrade 24 4 5 15 26 53 −27 17 18 Sparta Rotterdam 24 3 6 15 19 47 −28 15 Relegation to Eerste Divisie Updated to match(es) played on 18 February 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Frans Hals was best known for his portraits, here is one of his best knoen works, "Gypsy Girl" c. 1628. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 2 hours ago, jpg75 said: Frans Hals was best known for his portraits, here is one of his best knoen works, "Gypsy Girl" c. 1628. Did you slip into dutch there or is that a typo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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