Levi Oakey Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 It is all happening now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex D Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 Now we just have to push KWU up by all means necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael Martin Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 So...Just discovered this thread/found out I'm here-what a marvelous little oasis you have all created! Fun week to be following CPL though-lots of nice goodie bags of news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob.notenboom Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 Yes this will be a pretty interesting week indeed. As will the next month and a half - two months. Mont Vic legacy ... announcements must be happening by May at the latest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex D Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 7 hours ago, Nathanael Martin said: So...Just discovered this thread/found out I'm here-what a marvelous little oasis you have all created! Fun week to be following CPL though-lots of nice goodie bags of news. It's not as active as the main dumpster fire thread but we are going for quality over quantity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi Oakey Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 The winner of the Canada Games will be announced Live Thursday, the day after the Halifax supporters meeting that will be love stream. Those could be two big events. The Halifax live stream definitely should have some good info. If KW wins the Canada Games it will be a big boost for sport in the region, lots of upgrades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob.notenboom Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 3 hours ago, Levi Oakey said: The winner of the Canada Games will be announced Live Thursday, the day after the Halifax supporters meeting that will be love stream. Those could be two big events. The Halifax live stream definitely should have some good info. If KW wins the Canada Games it will be a big boost for sport in the region, lots of upgrades. Good luck you guys. Pulling for you. It's all about the infrastructure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatDaveCh Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 So happy this thread exists. Okay, so, the situation from Edmonton is that... a) Supporters were surprised to see Edmonton show up in that Halifax presentation. We know as fact that Tom Fath will sink with the ship if the NASL ever does go under, he is fiercely committed to his share holdings, and FCE will live or die with that. So, safe to say that if this info is true, the bid is spearheaded by someone else. b ) A CPL bid from Edmonton means: the ownership group behind the bid has deep pockets, and believes they can out compete, or even kill, FC Edmonton. We know that Katz of the OEG approached Fath a few years ago to buy the team, and was rejected. SPN reports that they've heard a claim that Katz is behind this bid. So, it could mean that he, again, approaches Fath with an offer to purchase FCE, or will start fresh and directly compete against. Personally, I believe an OEG owned team would kill the Eddies. FCE has failed to establish loyalty in the city (relatively speaking), and wouldn't be able to compete with the resources Katz has. But, as with everything CPL, we wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masster Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 I'm really conflicted on the whole Edmonton thing. I hated when MLS put pressure on NASL markets in Atlanta and Minnesota, so how can I be okay with the CPL doing the same thing? However, I do want the CSA to do all they can to promote Canada's interests and create a strong first division. At the same time, I respect the Fath's and their NASL decision because they have invested in the sport, the league and their city/stadium. Therefore I can't choose a side in this battle (if there will be a battle). I just hope it gets resolved with no lasting negative impact on the supporters, the market, or the sport in Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi Oakey Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 Agreed. As soon as I saw Edmonton on the report I wondered what the deal was. Saying that, it could just all be taken out of context. But even if it is, it's clear to me that an Edmonton team is important, and yet Fath refuses to leave the NASL, even when it hurts his own bottom line and community interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob.notenboom Posted March 29, 2017 Share Posted March 29, 2017 56 minutes ago, masster said: I'm really conflicted on the whole Edmonton thing. I hated when MLS put pressure on NASL markets in Atlanta and Minnesota, so how can I be okay with the CPL doing the same thing? However, I do want the CSA to do all they can to promote Canada's interests and create a strong first division. At the same time, I respect the Fath's and their NASL decision because they have invested in the sport, the league and their city/stadium. Therefore I can't choose a side in this battle (if there will be a battle). I just hope it gets resolved with no lasting negative impact on the supporters, the market, or the sport in Canada. Chuckle. I said almost the same thing in the other thread. Totally agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex D Posted March 30, 2017 Author Share Posted March 30, 2017 To me the best case scenario in Edmonton is for the FCE to eventually join in after a few years by request of the supporters ("why aren't we playing Calgary?") and sell their NASL shares to one of these ambitious new clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 It would be a stupid business decision for the CPL to lock themselves out of Edmonton just because FCE will go down with the NASL ship. If there's an ownership ready to enter CPL via Edmonton, there's no way in hell the league would pass on that opportunity. I understand the "mix-feeling" some people have for FCE but if a CPL ownership starts a team in Edmonton, they will either kill FCE or force them to move to Lethbridge or somewhere else. They are doing this to themselves. CPL has to do what's best for the league and locking themselves out of Edmonton (A major Canadian market) makes no sense. If people think CPL is on "waiting mode" regarding FCE, forget about it. I suspect CPL is actively lobbying potential investors to start a team without thinking about FCE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazlo_80 Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I think the one thing this opposing Edmonton team means for the CPL, and Duane mentioned this on his pod, is that if it is true, the CPL will likely see themselves as a reasonably higher level of quality. Which has to say something about the CPL as a whole. Its a rule of business. If you aren't first to market, you better sure as heck have a better product than the guy who was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nathanael Martin Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 I agree that CPL should push into Edmonton with or without the Eddies, but if it's without that is a sad thing for Canadian soccer. We have very few teams with as rich a history as the Eddies-I would love to be able to go to a game here in Kitchener with FC Edmonton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 Also, outside of the big 3 cities, Ottawa-Gatineau is the biggest potential CPL market. If I was OFFC, i'd make a decision sooner, rather than later. The biggest markets will undeniably attract the richest investors as you have a higher chance of success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rintaran Posted March 30, 2017 Share Posted March 30, 2017 What I found especially interesting, but not overly surprising, was the lack of BC-based teams in the Halifax documents. I assume this may have something to do with the new BCRT3 forming, but still hoped we would see something on this coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob.notenboom Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I love Halifax, but I would have loved it even more to be there tonight. Inevitably, the two larger questions, what teams and when, still remain unanswered. But I'm quite prepared to wait and see what May brings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi Oakey Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I am very confident that guys like Mark DeFrias and others will bring something to the coast. I am guessing that we will be looking at pretty quick expansion over the next ten years. More teams will keep costs down. EDIT: I see Halifax has publicly posted their notes. 16 teams in 10 years is the goal. https://www.hfxwanderers.ca/single-post/2017/03/30/Recap-of-Information-Session Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi Oakey Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 I 100% think Ottawa is all in. I have a feeling that PowerPoint slide was correct with original teams. I have a feeling that both the Fury (they have huge connections to the CSA and they are in Ottawa. Judging by what TSS Rover's have said, CPL reps have been out talking to lots of teams) and FC Edmonton will be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 On the Edmonton issue, I very much wish FC Ed was on board with CPL. I would hope that league organizers would have given them every chance to join - and I find it hard to believe the team wouldn't have been given the chance to get in on the ground floor. But if their ownership group is riding NASL to wherever it is headed, I have a hard time feeling too conflicted about CPL creating a 'survival of the fittest' environment in Edmonton. Ideally, FCEd would be part of CPL. But in the absence of that I will absolutely endorse a CPL-based Edmonton team over one that is hell bent on maintaining a presence in a USSF league. That isn't a byproduct of any kind of ill-will, it is just the reality that our national league must take clear priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Levi Oakey said: I 100% think Ottawa is all in. I have a feeling that PowerPoint slide was correct with original teams. I have a feeling that both the Fury (they have huge connections to the CSA and they are in Ottawa. Judging by what TSS Rover's have said, CPL reps have been out talking to lots of teams) and FC Edmonton will be there. I thought the same at first with the Halifax map as well, but the more I think about it, the more likely I feel that they could've said "This is generally what it will be like, but because of various NDAs we can't say these are the exact six cities to start." It's probably more common than I think in the corporate/government world. But 100% agree about Ottawa. If this is a CFL-supported league, I'll be shocked if the only pro soccer team owned by a CFL organization (OSEG) doesn't make the jump. It would be incredible to think that they wouldn't support the CFL's investment by staying out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, Gopherbashi said: I thought the same at first with the Halifax map as well, but the more I think about it, the more likely I feel that they could've said "This is generally what it will be like, but because of various NDAs we can't say these are the exact six cities to start." It's probably more common than I think in the corporate/government world. But 100% agree about Ottawa. If this is a CFL-supported league, I'll be shocked if the only pro soccer team owned by a CFL organization (OSEG) doesn't make the jump. It would be incredible to think that they wouldn't support the CFL's investment by staying out. LOL. It does seem pretty likely when you think about it like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 (I just wish FCED were on board - if you set aside the admittedly huge implication of Fath's financial ties to NASL, it just makes sense on so many levels to have them in) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levi Oakey Posted March 31, 2017 Share Posted March 31, 2017 1 hour ago, dyslexic nam said: (I just wish FCED were on board - if you set aside the admittedly huge implication of Fath's financial ties to NASL, it just makes sense on so many levels to have them in) There are so many benefits to FC Edmonton. Local rivalry, no more flying out to Puerto Rico or whatever new NASL destination is created. More feasible attendance numbers (The Halifax presentation said it is viable at 3000-4000). Plus, advertising in my mind will be easier for a Canadian focused league. I mean, you have an Edmonton based construction company advertising in Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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