redhat Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Massive Attack Still being built? Seattle has NO plans to play anywhere other than Quest Field. Supposedly, because they have such a great 'lease' agreement, nobody cares. Well, except me of course. Sorry I should have expressed "still being built" as imaginary (ie. not going to happen anytime soon) . Why is Seattle's bid acceptable? The ownership? Just dunno. I guess Megas answered my question above ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Attack Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 quote:Originally posted by MegasAlexandros It's not a "lease"... the majority owners of the new Seattle franchise are the same guys who own the Seahawks and they also OWN QWest field. That means that they directly control all the revenue that will be generated from the games and don't have to pay rent. This is the same situation which exists in New England and why the MLS has so far accepted that situation and the one in Seattle. What they don't want is a situation like in KC or NY where the teams pay rent and don't get 100% of the revenue. So in that sense, Saputo is more than on the right track and as eluded to above Garber simply stated that the stadium needs to be bigger, he made no reference to any inherent lack of quality. Whatever. I still think the Seattle situation smells. We've been spoonfed the small SSS model for years and then the Seattle situation is perfectly fine. QWest will still be an cavernous NFL stadium, unless its 75% full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Yes regardless of what one thinks of Saputo stadium the issue depends on how consistent MLS is. If they are fine with subpar or NFL style stadiums in other cities then the question of the quality of Saputo stadium is probably moot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Attack Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Grizzly Yes regardless of what one thinks of Saputo stadium the issue depends on how consistent MLS is. If they are fine with subpar or NFL style stadiums in other cities then the question of the quality of Saputo stadium is probably moot. Exactly. KC is moving into a baseball stadium for the foreseeable future. Saputo Stadium has the look. The only thing it is really lacking for a jump to the MLS is capacity. I don't need some truss monstrosity that is all the rage right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Massive Attack I would agree that its a bit contradictory. In a way I feel that we have been lead to believe that the rationale behind the SSS requirements for new and existing franchises was based on things like fan appeal, marketing, integrity of the game etc. Now, it would be naive to suggest that $$$ doesn't factor into the equation. But still, I thought that those other factors also counted for something. But the Seattle situation suggests that its all about controlling revenues and ensuring profitability. That tells you alot because what would happen if along comes a deep pocketed owner looking to buy into MLS? who owns his stadium that happens to be really crappy for soccer but is looking for a new stream of gate revenues. Its suggests that Garber might take him if it means playing on surface with football gridlines. Football gridlines on a pitch is a very poor way to sell the game to the purist who happen to be plenty full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest speedmonk42 Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Grizzly I wish we had 5 more in the country as well. We could certainly use stadiums like this in Canada. However, if I was MLS commish I wouldn't want 5 stadiums like this in my league. The stadium is easily expandable but much more difficult to upgrade. You can't build a castle on sand. A cheap foundation is difficult to improve upon. Didn't you tell me about a stadium you used to go to in Germany that had trees growing in the stands? LOL! See you in 6 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest speedmonk42 Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Grizzly I wish we had 5 more in the country as well. We could certainly use stadiums like this in Canada. However, if I was MLS commish I wouldn't want 5 stadiums like this in my league. The stadium is easily expandable but much more difficult to upgrade. You can't build a castle on sand. A cheap foundation is difficult to improve upon. Didn't you tell me about a stadium you used to go to in Germany that had trees growing in the stands? LOL! See you in 6 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest speedmonk42 Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 quote: Football gridlines on a pitch is a very poor way to sell the game to the purist who happen to be plenty full. If those can be removed easily and cleanly it might be ok. I am not sure what they did in Vancouver but there were no football lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest speedmonk42 Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 quote: Football gridlines on a pitch is a very poor way to sell the game to the purist who happen to be plenty full. If those can be removed easily and cleanly it might be ok. I am not sure what they did in Vancouver but there were no football lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piltdownman Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 From what I have read football lines on Field Turf can easily removed by simply painting over them, where as, as you could see in the England match yesterday it is far more difficult to remove lines from real grass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarnCherry Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 Seattle's stadium won't only have 9,000 people in it (or do people think that only Toronto is allowed to have huge crowd increases once they jump to MLS), and Qwest field is always gridiron line free until late sometime in August when NFL pre-season starts. With the jump to MLS they probably will remove the gridiron lines for MLS games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag futbol Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 I'd like to know how long it takes to remove the lines / how much it costs. New England removed the lines for the MLS Semi final. Hopefully for those teams stuck in this situation they start taking it more seriously. It just makes the game terrible to watch otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piltdownman Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 I remember hearing when qwest held the USL final a Figure of $20k to remove and repaint the lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhat Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 I can see them painting over lines, but I can also see them bring in grass for certain games (eg. the LA Beckhams, Chicago blancos, etc), like they did for the Gold Cup in 2005. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarnCherry Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 quote:Originally posted by redhat I can see them painting over lines, but I can also see them bring in grass for certain games (eg. the LA Beckhams, Chicago blancos, etc), like they did for the Gold Cup in 2005. That would be a waste of money for MLS games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag futbol Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 Yes, the temp grass got very poor reviews. In fact New England players were quoted as saying they couldn't wait to play on the fake turf again after the they had to endure the grass brought in for the gold cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boban1 Posted November 30, 2007 Share Posted November 30, 2007 How are the toilets coming along? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodfern2007 Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 quote:Originally posted by boban1 How are the toilets coming along? Good, so far. But as Frank Lloyd Wright once said, 'If you need to go to the bathroom, do it at home before you come around here . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaetan Cormier Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 Hey guys! new update available!!! http://www.boutiquemeteo.com/saputo/stadesaputo.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest speedmonk42 Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 Clearly they have put too much salt on the stands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaetan Cormier Posted December 1, 2007 Share Posted December 1, 2007 quote:Originally posted by speedmonk42 Clearly they have put too much salt on the stands. haha funny! There's not a lot of snow now but next week the stands should be under a good 20 to 30cm of snow [V] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarnCherry Posted December 2, 2007 Share Posted December 2, 2007 Make a few thousand snowmen and put them in the seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted December 3, 2007 Author Share Posted December 3, 2007 It seems that the video board (a Sony sponsorship) will be behind the goal stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest speedmonk42 Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Krammerhead Make a few thousand snowmen and put them in the seats. Hmmmmmm..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkhs Posted December 5, 2007 Share Posted December 5, 2007 I think people are missing the most obvious comparison amongst MLS stadia. Crew stadium was built for under 30 million, and is arugably even more basic than Saputo would be (after the expansion). Granted, it does seat 22K+, but many are bench seats. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbus_Crew_Stadium Having been to BMO several times, I can honestly say I am jealous of Saputo...real grass and even more small and intimiate looking than BMO. (And the washroom situtation at Saputo could not possibly be worse than at BMO.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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