Daniel Posted March 31, 2008 Author Share Posted March 31, 2008 Glad the opinion is at least based on facts and on-site observations, as opposed to pictures. How did you get in to the stadium? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Daniel Glad the opinion is at least based on facts and on-site observations, as opposed to pictures. How did you get in to the stadium? We just walked in. There are actually construction fences around but in many areas they are crotch high with a bit barb wire and easy to hop over. The only risk is that the snow to get there off the street is about 1-2 feet high and there is quite a bit of ice on the ground once your inside. I sense that they invested the bulk of the money in things that REAL fans don't care about. Looks like there are nice offices and there are seats in every section rather than benches throughout as is the case in Columbus. I am sure that the soccer moms and families probably wont or know the difference and, because of spaciousness, the politicians will probably love its multi-use capabilities But if you are going to cut corners on costs, I ( as a soccer fan)would rather that it be done on the seats and offices rather than the sight lines and aesthetics of the facility. I have a very funny feeling that the honeymoon wont be long for this facility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpenza Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 Well... nobody ever said it was at the same level of some of the facilities in the MLS. It costed 15 million dollars as opposed to ten times that for some other projects, if not more. Frankly, what did you expect?!? It's gonna be a great place to attend a game, regardless. I'm pretty sure our friends in Vancouver would trade their current situation for our "C-Level facility" anytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Mpenza Well... nobody ever said it was at the same level of some of the facilities in the MLS. It costed 15 million dollars as opposed to ten times that for some other projects, if not more. Frankly, what did you expect?!? It's gonna be a great place to attend a game, regardless. I'm pretty sure our friends in Vancouver would trade their current situation for our "C-Level facility" anytime. Perhaps. But read my observations again and you will notice that a lot of what i don't like has little to do with cost but rather planning. I was wishing, maybe dreaming, that I would see a stadium. But what I really saw is a field with three slabs of stands along with some offices. Because its so vast, spread out and not enclosed you will never be able to create a nice soccer atmosphere. It wont sound and look nice on TV either and thats a setback marketing wise. Its not so much the $15Mill that bugs me. Its the areas that it seemingly was spent on. Why on earth couldn't they enclose it a little more and make it more compact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarnCherry Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Mpenza I'm pretty sure our friends in Vancouver would trade their current situation for our "C-Level facility" anytime. Yep. But we'll have to make do with an F- stadium in what is fast becoming a resort town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpenza Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Free kick Because its so vast, spread out and not enclosed you will never be able to create a nice soccer atmosphere. It wont sound and look nice on TV either and thats a setback marketing wise. Wow. Maybe we should just bulldoze everything and go back to Claude-Robillard then. There are a number of things you're obviously not considering when you're saying it is too spread out or whatever. 1) The pitch is 110 m x 70 m. It's big. Stands are about 5 meters away from the sidelines and end lines. We couldn't really put them any closer. 2) There is a sightline between the olympic tower and the olympic village (up the hill) that has to be preserved, hence why the stands cannot be pulled closer to the main stand/office building. This space needs to remain unobstructed. And of course, do not forget that the stadium can and will be expanded. And when you'll (hopefully) see a horseshoe-shaped stand facing the main stand (the one next to the office building), it'll be a completely different stadium. And you know... even without the expansion, it'll always be better than that joke the KC Wizards are pulling right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpenza Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Free kick 1) I noticed when I was climbing the stairs in the main stands that They are not steep enough and the result is that if you are in the back row, you are still quite far from the action and your sight line is poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Mpenza Believe what you want. But those pictures do not do justice to the comparison or the debate and it tells me that aerial shots can really be deceiving. Earlier, I was going to post one of Gaetan Cormier's pictures of the main stand in comparison to the ones i took at BMO field that I have in www.webshots.com in order to actually prove my point. It clearly shows less of an incline and far better vantage point. But I didn't want to get into that kind of pissing match. Hey, I'd be happy to be wrong. But I would suggest that you see for yourself and compare. As for me, I reserve the right to change my mind when I actually see a game in Saputo Stadium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 On second thought. see for yourself http://sports.webshots.com/album/555009844TQzHwT?vhost=sports&start=0 http://sports.webshots.com/album/558855768rrfsDO?vhost=sports http://sports.webshots.com/album/560057243gAOhAc?vhost=sports http://sports.webshots.com/photo/2274438590059262121iWFwbL?vhost=sports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trident Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Mpenza Wow. Maybe we should just bulldoze everything and go back to Claude-Robillard then. There are a number of things you're obviously not considering when you're saying it is too spread out or whatever. 1) The pitch is 110 m x 70 m. It's big. Stands are about 5 meters away from the sidelines and end lines. We couldn't really put them any closer. 2) There is a sightline between the olympic tower and the olympic village (up the hill) that has to be preserved, hence why the stands cannot be pulled closer to the main stand/office building. This space needs to remain unobstructed. And of course, do not forget that the stadium can and will be expanded. And when you'll (hopefully) see a horseshoe-shaped stand facing the main stand (the one next to the office building), it'll be a completely different stadium. And you know... even without the expansion, it'll always be better than that joke the KC Wizards are pulling right now. Better than San Jose's as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpenza Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 This is no pissing contest, I'm just showing that the stand with the Maple Leaf and the one with the Impact logo pretty much are at the same angle. And they're pretty much built the same, except you guys have hidden the metal posts behind brick. http://image22.webshots.com/23/7/58/6/2443758060059262121dKrypF_fs.jpg http://www.boutiquemeteo.com/saputo/semaine33/semaine33_4.jpg But sure, if you compare with the second tier on the other side, it's different. But then, you know, apples and oranges... Of course the sightlines are better, you're higher up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted March 31, 2008 Author Share Posted March 31, 2008 The angle of the Maple Leaf and Impact Logo stands are both 20°. Edit: Mpenza, that first picture doesn't open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpenza Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Daniel Edit: Mpenza, that first picture doesn't open. Works for me. It's the second pic on this page : http://sports.webshots.com/album/555009844TQzHwT?vhost=sports&start=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarnCherry Posted March 31, 2008 Share Posted March 31, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Trident Better than San Jose's as well. I'd take either of those stadiums over having to watch the games in Salt Lake with the gridiron lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag futbol Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 The days of RSL's nightmare are almost over. Their stad is due to open later this year. By all accounts it looks pretty nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted April 1, 2008 Author Share Posted April 1, 2008 quote:Originally posted by ag futbol The days of RSL's nightmare are almost over. Their stad is due to open later this year. By all accounts it looks pretty nice. http://www.rslstadium.com/index2.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impactfanfirenze Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 Hopefully the blue seats will not show up on TV as clearly as the yellow ones in Columbus do, making the whole thing look emtpy even when its relatively full. Too bad the stadium isn't downtown--still, I'll take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 BMO isn't perfect either. The sightlines in the main stand and south end supporters section are quite good. However, I have my issues with the east stand. The stand is set WELL back from the pitch which I can't really understand why. There's so much room that they're filling the sidelines with those pub chairs and field side seats. Additionally, the slope of the stand is way too flat. I've sat near the back of this stand and the sightlines aren't the greatest. I'm sure they've done this to make it easier to add a second deck and preserve the camera shot of downtown T.O. but in my mind it's just a whole lot of poor planning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted April 1, 2008 Share Posted April 1, 2008 quote:Originally posted by ag futbol The days of RSL's nightmare are almost over. Their stad is due to open later this year. By all accounts it looks pretty nice. From the photos, it's a stadium that will rival Whitecaps' Waterfront (when the f***ing thing is finally built) for visual beauty, inside and out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest speedmonk42 Posted April 2, 2008 Share Posted April 2, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Daniel http://www.rslstadium.com/index2.html It would be good, but it needs more bathrooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted April 2, 2008 Author Share Posted April 2, 2008 quote:Originally posted by speedmonk42 It would be good, but it needs more bathrooms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaetan Cormier Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 HEY!!!!! Just when you tought the topic was dead! [] I will be doing updates everyweek until the first game at Saputo Stadium... enjoy! http://www.boutiquemeteo.com/saputo/stadesaputo.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mpenza Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Look at that cheap picnic table next to the trees. Damn you, Saputo! That's not good enough for MLS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaetan Cormier Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 Hahahaha he forgot to put a chemical toilet near it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmcmurph Posted April 12, 2008 Share Posted April 12, 2008 quote:Originally posted by Gaetan Cormier Hahahaha he forgot to put a chemical toilet near it! Start a new thread on opening day! That's an order [8D] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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