Loud Mouth Soup Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 Yeah, I know it's the News of The World (near the bottom), but it's still there to read. Interestingly, NotW also refer to him as 'Canadian', as another report some weeks back did. More interesting, though-he refers to himself as a Canadian. Well, if that's a real quote... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Attack Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 This could be a blessing in disguise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sKriSh Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 quote:De Guzman said: "For me, Chelsea's interest is a matter of big pride. I want to progress in football and, for a Canadian, England would be like a second home." That just made my day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soju Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 Did he really say that? Because if he didn't that's the biggest cock tease of the year. Come on Jono put on the red and white. Playing footie for underdog countries means you get 1,000,000 pairs of silk undies when you get to heaven. That's why Dwight Yorke does it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi44 Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 Wow only £2m? For one of the best young talents in the game I think this would be a steal! Go for it chelsea, then you can loan him to , like, fulham or something until he is ready... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 Wow, i'll echo those sentiments, if the quote is real then that's GOOD news! He'd get away from Holland and any pressure to play for Oranje, plus he'd be reunited with good buddy Salomon Kalou and hear all about how the Dutch immigration ministry are racists... The 2M pound figure sounds low though, his buyout is listed at 10M Euros. I'm sure they can negotiate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Oranje Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 Keep in mind that the transfer fee is related to the value of the contract and rights to the player rather than value of the player. For example, if there are options to exit the contract, the transfer fee value will be lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 I'd take dirty Chelsea over dirty Feyenoord any day. In Chelsea, it's only the money that's dirty, while Feyenoord is supported mostly by mouth-breathing street fighters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted March 11, 2007 Share Posted March 11, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Soju Did he really say that? Because if he didn't that's the biggest cock tease of the year. Come on Jono put on the red and white. Playing footie for underdog countries means you get 1,000,000 pairs of silk undies when you get to heaven. That's why Dwight Yorke does it. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 If he's no longer in the Netherlands, how would that affect his bid to gain citizenship? Wouldn't it kill it? Because residency is his only basis for being Dutch correct? cheers, matthew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballboy Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Was caught a bit surprised when I read a similar article in skysports as well... ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi44 Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 quote:Originally posted by ballboy Was caught a bit surprised when I read a similar article in skysports as well... ... Indeed... http://home.skysports.com/list.aspx?hlid=453513&plid=58945&clid=8&cpid=8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 "I want to progress in football and, for a Canadian, England would be like a second home." Sniff. Sniff. Cough. Ahem, er. Sniff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villus Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 quote:Originally posted by matthew If he's no longer in the Netherlands, how would that affect his bid to gain citizenship? Wouldn't it kill it? Because residency is his only basis for being Dutch correct? cheers, matthew Chelsea it is then!!!!! sign him up, put him on a flight and get him in a Canadian jersey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 quote:Originally posted by matthew If he's no longer in the Netherlands, how would that affect his bid to gain citizenship? Wouldn't it kill it? Because residency is his only basis for being Dutch correct? cheers, matthew I agree with this. I think the connection is essentially broken. Unless he has marriage plans with a Dutch citizen in the near future, I would think he would not be interested and/or able to pursue it further. It's not like he needs that EU passport as badly as some of Canada's players. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brodycheese Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 Well if it is true that he's moving on, then why wouldn't he play for Canada this summer in the world cup? He's going to end up moving to a big team sooner than later, and such exposure at the U-20 would help him sell himself (look what messi, obi did)... Really don't understand this kids reasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L.T. Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 I've seen some reports that say Chelsea is waiting for JDG2 to get his Dutch passport before bringing him in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Can. in UK Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 http://www.fansfc.com/chelseafootballclub/news.asp?newsid=164078 Does make sense, as he would have trouble getting a work permit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Attack Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Can. in UK http://www.fansfc.com/chelseafootballclub/news.asp?newsid=164078 Does make sense, as he would have trouble getting a work permit. I wonder how much of this is an assumption? Was it only a few weeks ago that we were reading that JDG2 was waffling on the Dutch citizen issue due to the requirement to renounce his Canadian citizenship. It will be interesting to see how this turns out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Massive Attack I wonder how much of this is an assumption? Was it only a few weeks ago that we were reading that JDG2 was waffling on the Dutch citizen issue due to the requirement to renounce his Canadian citizenship. It will be interesting to see how this turns out. The "waffling" though was merely speculation on the part of posters here. The actual story was simply that Jonathon had not yet applied for a dutch passport or made a decision abuot playing for Holland. I don't think he will need a dutch passport to go to England however - they do have a provision to allow players who do not qualify normally to get in on the basis of exceptional talent. At this point in his career, I think he has shown enough to qualify under that provision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Attack Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 True. But citizenship isn't something a person obtains overnight. I don't think Chelsea should believe they can just snap their fingers and DeGuzman will have a Dutch passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Can. in UK Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Gordon The "waffling" though was merely speculation on the part of posters here. The actual story was simply that Jonathon had not yet applied for a dutch passport or made a decision abuot playing for Holland. I don't think he will need a dutch passport to go to England however - they do have a provision to allow players who do not qualify normally to get in on the basis of exceptional talent. At this point in his career, I think he has shown enough to qualify under that provision. I didn't know that. Interesting... who judges whether someone is an "exceptional talent"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Can. in UK Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Gordon The "waffling" though was merely speculation on the part of posters here. The actual story was simply that Jonathon had not yet applied for a dutch passport or made a decision abuot playing for Holland. I don't think he will need a dutch passport to go to England however - they do have a provision to allow players who do not qualify normally to get in on the basis of exceptional talent. At this point in his career, I think he has shown enough to qualify under that provision. I didn't know that. Interesting... who judges whether someone is an "exceptional talent"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 quote:Originally posted by Can. in UK Interesting... who judges whether someone is an "exceptional talent"? There is a panel made up of ex footballers. Can be a bit of a crap shoot...Convey didn't get it when, Tottenham I think, was interested the year prior to his going to Reading, but Guzman has a much much stronger case than Convey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 I have no doubt that DeGuzman could get the permit given that he is a starter for Feyernoord and that Chelsea has a lot of pull. It would probably be easier and less time consuming getting the England permit than getting Dutch citizenship. Ironic though that if he had been playing regularly for our senior team that that would also have made things easier for him in getting a work permit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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