jaydog2006 Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 The metro stars have been sold to red bull and are now known as the red bull new york. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 http://metrostars.mlsnet.com/MLS/new...=.jsp&team=met So...this might mean that I have a new favourite contending name for the Toronto MLS team. The Toronto Metros. Just like Toronto City, a name with some history for this city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaydog2006 Posted March 9, 2006 Author Share Posted March 9, 2006 From what i have heard toronto may take on a name that will not make alot of people happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 quote:Originally posted by jaydog2006 From what i have heard toronto may take on a name that will not make alot of people happy. Care to elaborate on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaydog2006 Posted March 9, 2006 Author Share Posted March 9, 2006 One name i have herad is in fact they won't be called toronto but the f fa ontario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 The what??? As for Toronto Metros, I think one of the articles I think said AEG will keep the rights to the name MetroStars, so I doubt they would agree to have an other team called the Metros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 quote:Originally posted by jaydog2006 From what i have heard toronto may take on a name that will not make alot of people happy. From what I & about 30 others on this board have heard, they won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 This has to be the lamest league going. New York Red Bulls. The end is near. It's a great Arena Football 2 name however. They already have one team that has changed it's name 4 times (SJ/Houston) On that note I heard that MLSE sold the naming rights to the team for 10 million to Slush Puppy Canada and the team will be called the: Northern Frozen Orange Frenzy Slushies. And that the team will be playing at Vanilla Icey Blue Medium Park. the link: http://www.slushpuppie.com/ I also heard the move is so cutting edge that PSG is thinking of changing it's name to Paris Saint Cinnamon. Ajax might go to Comet FC as Comet is trying to capture the Dutch market. I heard the Ottawa Fury has struck a deal with Tampax to rename it's women's team to the Ottawa Tampax Users. The team slogan will be "never let them see you bleed" The MLS is run by mental cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 quote:Originally posted by G-Man New York Red Bulls. The end is near. The team just sold for at least $30 million. Yeah, I'd say that's a definite sign of imminent collapse. quote:The MLS is run by mental cases. If that's the case, why haven't you submitted your resumé yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 quote:Originally posted by Rudi The team just sold for at least $30 million. Yeah, I'd say that's a definite sign of imminent collapse. If that's the case, why haven't you submitted your resumé yet? Really 30 million eh? Is that for the team or the team and half the stadium? (construction cost: 100 Million....) I think that called AEG not recouping their initial investment. Show me proof or a link--that the team alone- was sold for 30 million and I'll drink a red bull and vodka. some local reaction: http://www.sportsfanmagazine.com/sfm/articles.html?id=2490 and this from their loyal supporters group.. http://www.metrofanatic.com/mf/story.jsp?ID=3299 http://www.metrofanatic.com/mf/story.jsp?ID=3278 The MLS does take care of those that loyally support it. NOT. Ask San Jose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 I have come to the conclusion no sane person can be as lame, stupid and negative as G-Man and that he can only be behaving this way deliberately as something of a devil's advocate to irritate some and inflame passions in others. Give it a rest G-Man, enough now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and White Army Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 quote:Originally posted by jaydog2006 The metro stars have been sold to red bull and are now known as the red bull new york. Oh. My. God. MLS just doesn't learn, do they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 quote:Originally posted by Richard I have come to the conclusion no sane person can be as lame, stupid and negative as G-Man and that he can only be behaving this way deliberately as something of a devil's advocate to irritate some and inflame passions in others. Give it a rest G-Man, enough now. Hey Richard. The MLS has been anointed the savior of Canadian Soccer by the CSA and a large segment of posters on this board with even presenting a single idea or making a single step. It's the child believing in Santa Claus. I'll crap on that parade any day as they're all adults. The Red Bull renaming has nothing to do with game, it has everything to do with profit and marketing. The loyal fans who supported and bought into the MetroStars don't matter. That 10 years of loyalty and tradition. The MLS isn't some nice local Dutch second division team that works with supporters and it's city through thick and thin. In the rest of the world the local club is a reflection of it's supporter and the town. They take pride in their clubs and hold them up when they do things wrong. The tradition of identity that we find elsewhere of a club- to it's fans is a totally foreign concept to the MLS. It's the disneyland of pro soccer. It's fake. (the euro sounding names for one is a cheesy ploy and now this corporate naming) They don't care about the connection that fan has to his club. Even Chelsea, Liverpool and Real Madrid while making millions understand this bond. Barcelona doesn't even have an ad on it's jersey. It doesn't need it. Without that connection, that real emotional bond, you have nothing worth saving or supporting. And like the Castle at Disney, it's not real, nor does it matter. But everything is for sale in the MLS. And this renaming is insult to the 15K who supported the Metros for the last 10 years. They thought they had a bond. They bought in. They were just sold out. SO If people are willing to come on this board and praise a club that doesn't even have a name or done anything for the Toronto soccer community--at the expense of an existing USL team that has struggled to find support in a city of 4 million-- a club who as it's core supporters, are abandoning an ownership group that has lost money (say what you want but G_L and crew didn't have the balls to own the team and run it right) and given them a place to be supporters for a cement roofless stadium- well I'll be here to take the piss out of them. ANd lets be honest. Has the hartwells run the lynx right and they were getting 10K a game and the MLS came to town, most of those UNIONISTS would still be jumping ship. Ahh the bright shinny lights... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 quote:Originally posted by G-Man Show me proof or a link--that the team alone- was sold for 30 million and I'll drink a red bull and vodka. http://www.bigapplesoccer.com/article.php?article_id=5582 quote:Red Bull has agreed to pay at least $30 million to AEG to buy the Metros, sources said. The deal could reach $50 million or more if the Austrian manufacturer of the sports energy drink also includes naming rights to the Harrison, N.J. stadium, sources said. The stadium is scheduled to open late next year or early 2008. There was speculation that the total deal could go as high as $100 million, but that figure could not be verified. Before you go spouting off that this is not a 'credible' source, this is the website that broke the news of the sale before anyone else, and is also the site that initially informed us that the team was interested in Adrian Serioux. As for the Red Bull and Vodka that you've now committed to drink, no doubt you'll reneg on that just as you did an about face regarding coming to Toronto to see '3 or 4 MLS games'. Either way, it's gotta be better than the Kool-Aid you've been consuming all these years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 quote:Originally posted by Richard I have come to the conclusion no sane person can be as lame, stupid and negative as G-Man and that he can only be behaving this way deliberately as something of a devil's advocate to irritate some and inflame passions in others. This is, in effect, the text book definition of a troll. And you are absolutely correct of course, and this has been the case for some time. The number of times he has contradicted his previous posts for the sake of negativity almost beggars belief. Now he provides a few more examples. He complained about the lack of different owners in the MLS but now that yet another one has come on board he complains about this as well. He claims the MLS isn't a major league and has no fans or support but now suggests the support for the Metrostars was so loyal & significant in size that they should matter to the new owners (even though most of the fan response I've seen has been positive to this). Its one contradiction after another, but that's the way of the troll. The biggest joke in the latest lame post is that he says that the re-naming has nothing to do with the game but has to do with profit & marketing, which is said with all the communistic zeal of someone who believes that corporations shouldn't be allowed to make money with their business. I guess he wasn't aware that the naming of the team in the first place was corporate since the Metrostars were named after their original owners, Metromedia. Its always been that way with this team. Our thanks for bringing us the news 10 years late once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeanKeay Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 Imagine all those supporters dying of a heart attack in the stands because they have had 12 red bulls and vodka... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 "This is, in effect, the text book definition of a troll." Agreed, but he has been called a troll before and clearly doesn't grasp the meaning or doesn't care. I long ago reached the point where I skip reading his posts except when I occasionally feel like a laugh at his expense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoyleG Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 quote:Originally posted by Gian-Luca The biggest joke in the latest lame post is that he says that the re-naming has nothing to do with the game but has to do with profit & marketing, which is said with all the communistic zeal of someone who believes that corporations shouldn't be allowed to make money with their business. I guess he wasn't aware that the naming of the team in the first place was corporate since the Metrostars were named after their original owners, Metromedia. Its always been that way with this team. Our thanks for bringing us the news 10 years late once again. The teams was named Metrostars because the owner used to run Metromedia. The company was basically sold off to FOX long before MLS even came into existance. SO much for the idea that had to do with bowing down to business. As for the sale, it isn't a dirty secret that Metrostars were the biggest financial drain on the league. Rent of $250,000/game plus the installation and maintenance of the old grass field was a huge pull on MLS and AEG. The $30 Million probley just cover what has been lost by MLS and AEG in New York. AEG seems to moving away from owning clubs to running the stadiums. AEG will be a joint owner of new stadium in Harrison starting in '07. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Keeper Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 Some people are delighted with the switch! Go you RedBalls!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoyleG Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 Looks like it was more than just the stadium. Red Bull seems to ahve paid about $75 Million for the team, joint ownership of the planned SSS, and naming rights for the SSS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 What's next? Viagra Vancouver? Tampax Toronto? Couldn't they have at least been the NY Red Bulls?? I will be happy to see the name die one day some years down the road, just as I was when the NHL Ducks became less mighty as of late . Corporate image is one thing. Corporate overbearance is quite another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 quote:Originally posted by DoyleG The teams was named Metrostars because the owner used to run Metromedia. The company was basically sold off to FOX long before MLS even came into existance. SO much for the idea that had to do with bowing down to business. The point is, the name for that particular team has always been corporate. They were never named for the "good of the game" to begin with. In North America team names are often marketing tools, this won't be the last we see of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Ault Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 quote:Originally posted by DoyleG Looks like it was more than just the stadium. Red Bull seems to ahve paid about $75 Million for the team, joint ownership of the planned SSS, and naming rights for the SSS. From the SoccerTimes: According to the The New York Times, Red Bull paid the AEG "in excess of $100 million" for the club, its share in the new stadium which, it is hoped, will open in 2008, and the venue's naming rights. With the deal, AEG also returned to MLS rights for a second team within a 75-mile radius of New York area. Those rights were included in its purchase of the MetroStars in 1998. Overall a fairly extensive deal with some interesting repercussions for the future of the league. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 I understand that New York can't have a 2nd team until 2010. Who knows, maybe we'll see Vancouver & a 2nd New York team enter the league that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealGooner Posted March 10, 2006 Share Posted March 10, 2006 Corporate branding has been around since at least 1904. Bayer Leverkusen anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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