tmcmurph Posted August 3, 2015 Author Share Posted August 3, 2015 It was actually 6 Canadian starters: Carducci, Sandhu, Farmer, Haynes, Bustos, Clarke. The 3 subs they used were Canadian as well: Campbell, Balgojevic and Pridham Adekugbe was supposed to start and get 45 minutes working his way back from injury, but there was a 'paperwork' error: http://blogs.theprovince.com/2015/08/03/adekugbe-unlikely-to-start-ccl-opener-after-paperwork-error/ 6? Okay I thought Sandhu subbed in. Too bad about Sam. It would have been good to get the rust off ahead of the Wednesday game. Good to see we are back to quotaville. Now if some more injured Canadians can get back to full health we'll be loving it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmcmurph Posted August 9, 2015 Author Share Posted August 9, 2015 The Caps2 do a 3 to zip number on the flounders2 just like the first team did. Seven Canadians start and Bustos gets a pair of goals. Sam gets his 90 so could be ready for first team any time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmcmurph Posted August 17, 2015 Author Share Posted August 17, 2015 A goal for Clarke (7th of the season) was the only good news in a 3-1 loss to Portland2. Bustos, Blasco looked good but couldn't score. 7 Canadians start this week as we seem to be getting back to normal in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coramoor Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 Vancouver was offensively quite dynamic with a shot of the crossbar but defensively, what a mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerpro Posted August 17, 2015 Share Posted August 17, 2015 I found Haynes very underwhelming. Every time i wiatch him, I don't see much of a future there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmcmurph Posted August 18, 2015 Author Share Posted August 18, 2015 Vancouver was offensively quite dynamic with a shot of the crossbar but defensively, what a mess Yea it was a mess at the back. First goal was an unchallenged cross that 2 defenders misjudged in the air leaving the shot wide open and both the 2cd & 3rd goals were just such bad marking it is unbelievable. Oh well that is what USL Pro is for. Learning from mistakes so here is hoping they do just that. 2 off the crossbar actually. Bustos and then Farmer with the deflection going to Clarke for the lone goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccerlife Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 The defence was a mess. Sandu has been doing well at his new position, guess an off night for him. Haynes had the only two shots on goal in the first half. Had a solid game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 It's nice to see Clarke score, but based on have I have seen this year with the club and the Panams, I really don't see a MLS-level striker there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerpro Posted August 18, 2015 Share Posted August 18, 2015 It's nice to see Clarke score, but based on have I have seen this year with the club and the Panams, I really don't see a MLS-level striker there. I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmcmurph Posted August 23, 2015 Author Share Posted August 23, 2015 0-2 Loss in Arizona tonight. 6 Canadian starters. Sam played again so he is closer to first team. Harvey was injured at the end of the Dallas game so maybe we'll see Sam on Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerpro Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 0-2 Loss in Arizona tonight. 6 Canadian starters. Sam played again so he is closer to first team. Harvey was injured at the end of the Dallas game so maybe we'll see Sam on Wednesday. The problem for Sam is that Christian Dean turned into a really good player at LB and CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub Narcotic Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Dean has been a good story but Adekugbe has to go on Wednesday if he's ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northvansteve Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 Dean has been competent - good, even - at LB. But Adekugbe has star potential there and Dean has higher upside at CB. Adekugbe adds an element of offense on the left side that no one else on the Whitecaps can provide. So I would expect to see Adekugbe at LB for the Caps soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 0-2 Loss in Arizona tonight. 6 Canadian starters. Sam played again so he is closer to first team. Harvey was injured at the end of the Dallas game so maybe we'll see Sam on Wednesday. They actually started 5 Canadians, ignoring the quota again. Here was their announced starting lineup: Vancouver Whitecaps @WhitecapsFC 14h14 hours ago Here's the #WFC2 starting XI 39.Richey (USA) 50 Sandhu (CAN) 41 Farmer (CAN) 58 Seymore (USA) 3 Adekugbe (CAN) 20 Flores (HON) 38 Froese (CAN) 32 Bustos (CAN) 25 Lewis (JAM) 48 Blasco (ESP) 51 Schuler (USA) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmcmurph Posted August 23, 2015 Author Share Posted August 23, 2015 They actually started 5 Canadians, ignoring the quota again. Here was their announced starting lineup: Vancouver Whitecaps @WhitecapsFC 14h14 hours ago Here's the #WFC2 starting XI 39.Richey (USA) 50 Sandhu (CAN) 41 Farmer (CAN) 58 Seymore (USA) 3 Adekugbe (CAN) 20 Flores (HON) 38 Froese (CAN) 32 Bustos (CAN) 25 Lewis (JAM) 48 Blasco (ESP) 51 Schuler (USA) The CSA counts Richey as he is dual and could play for Canada if he chooses. The CMNT eligible standard does count him in it. Surprised me too when I found that out as he is listed as USA on the team's site. As to Dean he is okay at LB but has really come a long way further at CB which is his natural position. I had my doubts about him early in the season with WC2 but he has really worked at it. Parker is still ahead of him in the depth and I don't think Kah will be back next year so he and Farmer will contest the 3rd CB role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted August 23, 2015 Share Posted August 23, 2015 The CSA counts Richey as he is dual and could play for Canada if he chooses. The CMNT eligible standard does count him in it. Surprised me too when I found that out as he is listed as USA on the team's site. Born in the US, played for the US youth national teams, against Canada. That's American in my books until he suits up for the U-23 or senior team. WFC 2 may have met the CSA domestic starting requirements, but it was on a technicality only, and that's disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub Narcotic Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Born in the US, played for the US youth national teams, against Canada. That's American in my books until he suits up for the U-23 or senior team. WFC 2 may have met the CSA domestic starting requirements, but it was on a technicality only, and that's disappointing. LOL, good save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmcmurph Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 Born in the US, played for the US youth national teams, against Canada. That's American in my books until he suits up for the U-23 or senior team. WFC 2 may have met the CSA domestic starting requirements, but it was on a technicality only, and that's disappointing. Yea it is but if he plays for us then it isn't. Who knows which way our own "Canadian" players will go. I'd bet half of TFC2 could play for Jamaica if they wanted to (and were good enough). I don't know how you can tighten the criteria up without eliminating players left, right and centre. At least having the CMNT eligible criteria is a step in the right direction even if it has its own set of issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I'd bet half of TFC2 could play for Jamaica if they wanted to (and were good enough). Uh, what? There's like 3 or 4 black Canadians on TFC II and i'm not even sure if they're of Jamaican, Trinidadian or some other background. Roberts, Thomas, Edwards, Kaye...pretty much all of them are capped at the youth levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmcmurph Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 Uh, what? There's like 3 or 4 black Canadians on TFC II and i'm not even sure if they're of Jamaican, Trinidadian or some other background. Roberts, Thomas, Edwards, Kaye...pretty much all of them are capped at the youth levels. I was guessing given the huge Jamaican community in Toronto. Substitute "multi-country eligible" and you get my point. It probably applies to Impact2 and Caps2 as well. Sort of a weird problem. You have players who could, if good enough, play for Italy, Jamaica etc. Do you hope that they aren't quite that good or hope that they are great but choose Canada? It's a weird situation we're in to be sure. Unless FIFA changes the criteria again youth levels mean nothing. I hope they bring in a right of first refusal for the country you've lived the longest in type rule. That would stop a lot of nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coramoor Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Canada is for the foreseeable future going to be a country that always has this problem. I'm eligilbe for 2 other countries and I'd guess most posters on this board are eligilbe for at least one other. I could see revoking the status as a domestic for those who have played for the youth program of another country although that seems somewhat of a harsh decision to make on a kid, especially if he plays for a worse nation. I'm fine with the current status of things. I do believe that the CSA has to be a little harder on the VWFC2 organization for their failures when they do have options avialable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Really? The counter argument to WFC 2 only meeting the domestic quota by technicality is that "TFC II probably has a bunch of players that are eligible for Jamaica the same way Richey is eligible for Canada?" How many of TFC II's players have played for another country's youth setup? Martin Davis (who has been given 68 total minutes this year) and....? Or do you not consider Roberts, Baboui, Uccello, Aparicio, Mannella, Mirabelli or Hamilton Canadian, because youth levels don't matter? I just don't get the logic. The fact is that TFC II and FC Montreal have met the required sanctioning for their USL club; starting 6 or more players who were either born in Canada or have represented Canada at a youth or senior level EVERY game, and WFC 2 hasn't. Why they get defended for that here is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coramoor Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I don't care about the technicality question, he's a Canadian citizen who can still play for Canada, that's all well and good. The issue is when they've started 4 guys and had Canadian options on the bench, yea the lineup may not be ideal but that shouldn't matter. Play a guy or two out of position and get it done, it's one thing if you have 6 or 7 Canadians down at once and there is nobody else but it's another thing entirely when the options are available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmcmurph Posted August 25, 2015 Author Share Posted August 25, 2015 Canada is for the foreseeable future going to be a country that always has this problem. I'm eligilbe for 2 other countries and I'd guess most posters on this board are eligilbe for at least one other. I could see revoking the status as a domestic for those who have played for the youth program of another country although that seems somewhat of a harsh decision to make on a kid, especially if he plays for a worse nation. I'm fine with the current status of things. I do believe that the CSA has to be a little harder on the VWFC2 organization for their failures when they do have options avialable. Agreed on both points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub Narcotic Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 I like the idea of the CSA being hard on organizations that are hurting Canadian players getting minutes at USL level. They can start by firing any idiot in their organization who decided to not allow independent teams USL sanctioning in this country. How many player years have we lost now because of no team in London, no team in Victoria and no team in Calgary? BTW, it's not a 'technicality' when there is one rule to meet and the player in question meets that one rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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