loyola Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 http://www.thefa.com/England/U16s/NewsAndFeatures/Postings/2006/09/U16sSquadVictory.htm Do I understand this correctly, Adam Street (our U-17 keeper at West Ham United) is going to play for England U-16's against Wales??? He was our starting keeper for saturday,s game against the USA in Brandeton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted September 27, 2006 Author Share Posted September 27, 2006 I don't know what's the situation here but let just hope he plays for us in the future (U-17 qualification in april 2007). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPE Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 Does any one know if this another case of a kid being born in Canada but having lived most of his life elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted September 27, 2006 Author Share Posted September 27, 2006 Adam Street was with our NTC and he did appear in one of those Fox Sports Canada program call Direct Kick and I'm pretty sure he lived in Canada before moving to West Ham United. He must be eligible through his parents or grandparents. He played his youth soccer here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 Hey, remember way back when Hargreaves had yet to make his decision, and a few numb-nuts here and elsewhere argued that this would be good for Canada in the long run? How come I'm getting the impression--like I did back then--that this is proving to be a load of bollocks, that what Hargreave's example really showed was that ambitious and talented young Canadian could "do so much better than play for Canada: so keep your options open and you might someday play for Holland or England etc etc.". Maybe I'm wrong; maybe these young players would have opted to play for another country anyways. But it makes one wonder, don't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnipeg Fury Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 This better be a f*cking joke, because I am about 3 minutes from going postal ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ed Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 In answer to The Beaver, I would think you can thank Hargreaves for Nsaliwa and Ledgerwood starting out with good clubs in Germany. So there was some benefit. His name (in Ledgerwood's case) and Niendorf's association with Hargreaves landing at Bayern (in Nsaliwa's case) opened the door for them to get a real look at 1860 Muenchen and Nurnberg (respectively). There is no logic to your assertion; FIFA changed the rules, not Hargreaves. These kids are taking advantage of that opportunity. The f*ing English have been poaching or trying to poach our players forever as was the case with Dunfeld. What do we do in return? Give their rejects jobs in our national and provincial associations. WF, where's that Brian Tobin when we need him???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 quote:Originally posted by Ed WF, where's that Brian Tobin when we need him???? Well, Tobin had some REAL leverage when he fired a few shots over the hull of that Portuguese (spanish?) trawler: What the hell does the CSA have in terms of leverage? Do they even have guns and warships? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted September 27, 2006 Author Share Posted September 27, 2006 According to FIFA's rules, Street can only play for England if he gets the papers work done because he already played for us in an U17WCQ in 2005 when he was 13.... It's the same case as de Jong but Street has a few years to decide what he'll do unless he wants to play in the UEFA U17 qualifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnipeg Fury Posted September 27, 2006 Share Posted September 27, 2006 quote:Originally posted by loyola According to FIFA's rules, Street can only play for England if he gets the papers work done because he already played for us in an U17WCQ in 2005 when he was 13.... It's the same case as de Jong but Street has a few years to decide what he'll do unless he wants to play in the UEFA U17 qualifications. Help me with this: If he plays for england in the U-17's, but not the senior squad, then we can get him back before age 20 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted September 27, 2006 Author Share Posted September 27, 2006 He's allowed only one switch I believe, so that would do it if he choose England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi44 Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 quote:Originally posted by Winnipeg Fury This better be a f*cking joke, because I am about 3 minutes from going postal ! I'm with ya![xx(] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 quote:Originally posted by The Beaver Well, Tobin had some REAL leverage when he fired a few shots over the hull of that Portuguese (spanish?) trawler: What the hell does the CSA have in terms of leverage? Do they even have guns and warships? Oh-my-God. If they don't, you just know it couldn't hurt to get some.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soju Posted September 28, 2006 Share Posted September 28, 2006 God damn these sellout kids!!! People aren't supposed to sell out until they're at least 25!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesW Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Adam Street is listed on the U-16 squad: http://www.thefa.com/England/U16s/Players/ May I ask if he is on the bench, does that count as playing for England? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted October 31, 2006 Author Share Posted October 31, 2006 If your speaking of being cap-tie to England, he'll need to be on the field at some point during an official youth game, qualification for a WYC or a WYC game (so friendlies, or tournament like the one England is involve right now doesn't count). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prelude Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 How about if the kid becomes a flop? what are people going to say then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soju Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 If he's a flop in an England shirt I'd say he's a flop sellout and forget him. If he's a flop in a Canada shirt I'd say he was unlucky, a good kid, and should get another look. Was that obvious enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesW Posted November 1, 2006 Share Posted November 1, 2006 quote:Originally posted by Prelude How about if the kid becomes a flop? what are people going to say then? I will say nothing and in one year no one will know who Adam Street is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesW Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 Sounds like he is gone. Maybe it is time we stop talking about him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPE Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 This is was an emaiL I sent to CSA. Probably not everyone agrees with this opinion but food for thought... Nov 10th Hi Does the CSA have any idea how committed this Kid is playing for Canada? - apparently he played for England against N. Ireland this week. I know it's beyond the control of the CSA what players do. But personally as a CDN soccer fan I cannot not see the sense of investing money in an individual who is playing the field and in the end quite possibly would pursue his chances with England over Canada. We need individuals who are committed to playing for Canada. I cannot help but feel that the CSA needs to take a firmer stand with players. If we have another U17 GK with potential and who is committed to playing for Canada - give him the opportunity and stop calling up Adam Street (West Ham system). Any way those are the opinions of one CDN fan for what it's worth. thanks Nigel Edmonds Ottawa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Observer Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 interesting perpspecitve NPE. I guess we never call anyone who has not decided which country they wish to commit to. I have made my feelings known on this subject many times on this board. I personally believe that anyone who is brought up in Canada, is a Canadian, but chooses to play for another nation is a traitor (and should be treated as such by Canadians). Playing for your nation is an honour and not a commercial opportunity. If it is treated as a commercial oppurtunity by players, there should be no national teams and we should just all watch the Champions League (which is better quality football anyway). People and nations watch the world cup and it is a spectacle because of the fact it is about more than football. This being said, the reality is that as Canada improves in soccer, more and more players will jump ship and play for "better" nations or for "more convenient" nations (eg. Wales). This will be part of the growing pains of Canadian soccer development. Until we can consistently qualify for the World Cup and be competitive in that tournament, many of our best players will put their selfish desires to compete at the highest level and the possible commercial opportunities that brings (whether real or imaginary) ahead of any national honour. And lets be honest, the reason many good players become professional class soccer stars is because of selfish dedication to their pursuits including leaving home at an early age to improve their skils and "beat the odds". Its not difficult to see that if that is what it takes, such an environment is not conducive to developing "loyalty", "honour" or other such attributes in the individual. They will tend to be people that are willing to sell their skills to the highest bidder. And its not surprising that those that are most committed to Canada are players that are most committed to their club sides (such as JDV at Ipswich; or ironically Bircham at QPR) as the mentality is more the team then themselves (which also probably is part of the reason they are not stars). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPE Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 Look, I realize it's not a black and white issue but if someone is showing commitment to more than one country (and given the the limited resources of the CSA)lets go with the player who is demonstrating a greater commitment to want to play for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyola Posted December 10, 2006 Author Share Posted December 10, 2006 I don,t know if it's a good sign but Adam Street wasn't called for the last game of the year for England U16 against Scotland yesterday. http://www.thefa.com/England/U16s/NewsAndFeatures/Postings/2006/11/16Scotland.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulsar Posted December 10, 2006 Share Posted December 10, 2006 Hello all....I have been a fan of this forum for some time but have just recently decided to participate. I can't begin to say how how dissapointed i am with all these defections. As a child I begged my parents to go let me play in Italy and to their credit they said ok but with a little tap on the shoulder reminding me that Canada gave them a life. Simple. My parents sound like they walked off the boat yesterday but if someone asks what their nationality is...they always say Canadian. God bless them. On a side note i was told i should stick with hockey by the Italians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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