Passive Observer Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 This is what the MLS Commish said today about expansion: Don Garber: (2:58 PM ET ) 2007 is are target for our next round of expansion with Toronto the frontrunning city. I am traveling to Toronto tomorrow for a meeting with the Maple Leafs board where we hope to get one step closer to finalize a deal in that city. We're still working hard on finalizing the second team, no city leading the pack at this point. Michael, I plan to be with Peter in Milwaukee at some point during the month of August. http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=8775 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 Robert will no doubt be whining soon that the CSA has failed to reveal anything to him about all this which is yet another indicator of the organisation's total incompetence and reason for instant dismaissal of Kevan Pipe and the firing of Andy Sharpe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Richard Robert will no doubt be whining soon that the CSA has failed to reveal anything to him about all this which is yet another indicator of the organisation's total incompetence and reason for instant dismaissal of Kevan Pipe and the firing of Andy Sharpe! Although you are probably correct, I don't see the point of posting something like this. It borders on baiting, something that Robert does not need as motivation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 Sounds like great news, but just to sure, is that article current dated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varsity Tyler Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 That's some pretty huge, and fairly unexpected news. I don't think many people in Toronto thought that the chance of MLS here was that great given the recent stadium collapse. Well, they'll need a place to play. Here's hoping that we're due for an announcement soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passive Observer Posted July 27, 2005 Author Share Posted July 27, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Free kick Sounds like great news, but just to sure, is that article current dated? It's a live chat that was done today! (July 27) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Attack Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 Actually, the chat is still ongoing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 Here's another question & answer from that chat that should be of interest: Bob (Cleveland, OH): I cannot understand adding a team outside of a team outside of the US. Why add a team in Toronto? Why not add a team in Mexico? How would this impact international player limits? What are the pros and cons over the long haul of Toronto over a US city? Don Garber: (3:21 PM ET ) Great question, Bob. It starts with the three pillars for successful expansion --- Ownership, Stadium and Market. Mexico has it's own first division pro league, which rules out expansion for us there. Clearly, we hope to continue expansion successfully in the U.S. as well. As it relates to international rules, it is likely that a domestic player will be Canadian and a foreign player will be non-Canadian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 That thing I just posted suggests that the three pillars are to be in place in Toronto soon (or else why finalize a deal there tomorrow?). We know about ownership & market, but that third pillar.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Attack Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 As it relates to international rules, it is likely that a domestic player will be Canadian and a foreign player will be non-Canadian. Sorry, I just needed to do that. Where are DoyleG and Luis and all the other non-believers now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakwood Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 Hopefully this is some good news, but if being a Soccer fan in Canada has taught me anything its not to hold my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passive Observer Posted July 27, 2005 Author Share Posted July 27, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Massive Attack As it relates to international rules, it is likely that a domestic player will be Canadian and a foreign player will be non-Canadian. Sorry, I just needed to do that. Where are DoyleG and Luis and all the other non-believers now? Agree, can't stand the negativity and cynicism of some on this board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Massive Attack [sorry, I just needed to do that. Where are DoyleG and Luis and all the other non-believers now? Last I heard, DoyleG was made a moderator of the Canadian forum on bigsoccer.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Massive Attack As it relates to international rules, it is likely that a domestic player will be Canadian and a foreign player will be non-Canadian. Sorry, I just needed to do that. Where are DoyleG and Luis and all the other non-believers now? That rule is for the Mexican team. Besides, he said "likely". Phsss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Massive Attack As it relates to international rules, it is likely that a domestic player will be Canadian and a foreign player will be non-Canadian. Sorry, I just needed to do that. Where are DoyleG and Luis and all the other non-believers now? I never took that argument seriously after I posted a response ( when the thought first surfaced)that it was a rediculous notion to begin with. I stopped bothering after that. To suggest that Canadian players would be treated as forienger to begin with is not even worth debating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Elias That rule is for the Mexican team. Besides, he said "likely". Phsss. What Mexican team? If you mean Chivas USA, they are subject to the exact same rules as the rest of the teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denis Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 In the past I have been pessimistic about the potential benefits of the MLS in Canada, particularly with regards to player development for the MNT. However after seeing how a ULS team like the Impact can contribute to the program, it makes you wonder what a step up in quality, which the MLS team could provide, would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Rudi What Mexican team? If you mean Chivas USA, they are subject to the exact same rules as the rest of the teams. The question where that answer is from, the guy asked why not expand to Mexico. I was just being stupid. And now I can't login and change it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhat Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 Good news. I just hope it gets finalized, including the stadium. As for the player quotas, ownership group, and how it benefits Toronto and Canada, well I suppose the details are yet to be announced ... A Toronto team would be a plus for the MLS, as would the marketing possibilities. (edited for spelling) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbailey62 Posted July 27, 2005 Share Posted July 27, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Massive Attack As it relates to international rules, it is likely that a domestic player will be Canadian and a foreign player will be non-Canadian. It's just bloody common sense isn't it! db Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zacRWE Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 i am simply perplexed! is this a dream? well I will believe it when i see it, until then... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealGooner Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 If Mr Garber is coming to Toronto tomorrow, it will be perfect timing for an announcement on a new stadium, which the CSA promised for the end of July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 All in all what's the worse that could happen? MLSE could loose a **** pile of money? Nope. Can't see that as being a negative. MLS is a success in Toronto, the league makes money, and MLSE looks like roses after it's all said in done? Fu'k. That would be hard to take. MNT player development or no. Anyway, pretty neat. Pipe and Sharpe scouting out Home Depot in LA. Now the MLS commish is going north? Wow. Something smells fishy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passive Observer Posted July 28, 2005 Author Share Posted July 28, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Cheeta All in all what's the worse that could happen? MLSE could loose a **** pile of money? Nope. Can't see that as being a negative. MLS is a success in Toronto, the league makes money, and MLSE looks like roses after it's all said in done? Fu'k. That would be hard to take. MNT player development or no. Anyway, pretty neat. Pipe and Sharpe scouting out Home Depot in LA. Now the MLS commish is going north? Wow. Something smells fishy. Think there are three great developments that will happen with MLS: 1) Toronto will definitely have a soccer centric stadium (MLS will demand it), thus Canadian soccer will finally have a home 2) Montreal and Vancouver will be envious of Toronto and will feel pressured to make the step up to MLS 3) As someone else mentioned: instead of half the national team playing in the USL (US second division), they will be playing in the MLS (US first division) I don't see how this "hurts" Canadian soccer in anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 I was never a big booster of the MLS coming to Toronto, but I'm starting to think there isn't a lot to be lost by it happening. The Impact and Whitecaps will likely be unaffected (except for a few player losses). As for the import requirement, the way described by Garber only makes sense. It's how they do it in the USL D1. By the way, I doubt Canadian labour laws would ever allow a rule preventing Canadians from getting jobs over foreigners. Let's hope for the best... Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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