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Is it too early to start?

27-May Montreal v. Toronto = 3 - 1

17-June Montreal v. Vancouver = 1 - 1

25-June Vancouver v. Montreal = 2 - 2

01-July Toronto v. Vancouver = 2 - 3

09-July Vancouver v. Toronto = 1 - 0

22-July Toronto v. Montreal = 1 - 2

Yep I pick Toronto to lose all games. [:0]

fire away [^]

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quote:Originally posted by tmcmurph

Is it too early to start?

27-May Montreal v. Toronto = 3 - 1

17-June Montreal v. Vancouver = 1 - 1

25-June Vancouver v. Montreal = 2 - 2

01-July Toronto v. Vancouver = 2 - 3

09-July Vancouver v. Toronto = 1 - 0

22-July Toronto v. Montreal = 1 - 2

Yep I pick Toronto to lose all games. [:0]

fire away [^]

So you're saying Montreal will win by goal differential? I agree that they'll win but I think they can beat the caps at least once... or maybe TFC can steal a draw at BMO;).

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If Toronto picks up Guevara, its goodbye Montreal and Vancouver. The first match is more than a month and a half away which leaves plenty of time for TFC to build chemistry. But with a midfield that could resemble Robert--Robinson--Edu--Guevara, these predictions given are wishful thinking.

Heres how i think it will go.

27-May Montreal v. Toronto = 1 - 3

17-June Montreal v. Vancouver = 2 - 1

25-June Vancouver v. Montreal = 1 - 1

01-July Toronto v. Vancouver = 2 - 0

09-July Vancouver v. Toronto = 1- 2

22-July Toronto v. Montreal = 4 - 0

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quote:Originally posted by tmcmurph

Is it too early to start?

27-May Montreal v. Toronto = 3 - 1

17-June Montreal v. Vancouver = 1 - 1

25-June Vancouver v. Montreal = 2 - 2

01-July Toronto v. Vancouver = 2 - 3

09-July Vancouver v. Toronto = 1 - 0

22-July Toronto v. Montreal = 1 - 2

Yep I pick Toronto to lose all games. [:0]

fire away [^]

You are picking Montreal and Vancouver to score six goals total in their two game series and others are predicting 5 goals? Have any of you been following Montreal-Vancouver games over the last few years?

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quote:Originally posted by Scottie

So you're saying Montreal will win by goal differential? I agree that they'll win but I think they can beat the caps at least once... or maybe TFC can steal a draw at BMO;).

I am a Caps fan from back in the 70s so yes I am biased in their favor bigtime [8D]

It was the most graceful way I could think of that my Caps could bow out (this year!).

Given the pre-season prep I think Montreal is already ahead of both the others. I think it will be another very long season for TFC and their goal scoring drought will continue.

It would be nice to see TFC have a better season than last year but winning less than 10 games seems to be in the cards for them.

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quote:Originally posted by Krammerhead

You are picking Montreal and Vancouver to score six goals total in their two game series and others are predicting 5 goals? Have any of you been following Montreal-Vancouver games over the last few years?

Apparently they haven't.

How any predictions can be made when Montreal and Vancouver have not played a real game nor a game versus opponenets from the MLS is beyond me. I believe that most of the games will be close 1 goal differences and draws. Montreal will not be as good as what people are saying and Toronto will not be as bad. It will be very competitive.

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quote:Originally posted by Krammerhead

You are picking Montreal and Vancouver to score six goals total in their two game series and others are predicting 5 goals? Have any of you been following Montreal-Vancouver games over the last few years?

Nobody, especially me, lays any claim to sanity! We are Canadian soccer fans ;)

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27-May Montreal v. Toronto = 1 - 1

17-June Montreal v. Vancouver = 2 - 0

25-June Vancouver v. Montreal = 1 - 2

01-July Toronto v. Vancouver = 2 - 0

09-July Vancouver v. Toronto = 0 - 1

22-July Toronto v. Montreal = 1 - 1

Montreal - 8 points 6:3 +3

Toronto - 8 points 5:2 +3

Vancouver - 0 points

[:0] - I added up the points after my predictions, surprised I didn't give the Caps any points! And damn that would make for a tight last game!

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quote:Originally posted by Daniel

27-May Montreal v. Toronto = 1 - 1

17-June Montreal v. Vancouver = 2 - 0

25-June Vancouver v. Montreal = 1 - 2

01-July Toronto v. Vancouver = 2 - 0

09-July Vancouver v. Toronto = 0 - 1

22-July Toronto v. Montreal = 1 - 1

Montreal - 8 points 6:3 +3

Toronto - 8 points 5:2 +3

Vancouver - 0 points

[:0] - I added up the points after my predictions, surprised I didn't give the Caps any points! And damn that would make for a tight last game!

Can't say I'm surprised. It's not like the east to give the west any respect. Just like 2006.

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quote:Originally posted by Vancouver Fan

I believe that most of the games will be close 1 goal differences and draws. Montreal will not be as good as what people are saying and Toronto will not be as bad. It will be very competitive.

Bingo.

It's true, TFC has looked terrible against MLS competition so far. But as good as Montreal may be, they are nowhere near the quality of DC United, and yet some here are predicting that Toronto will lose by as much or worse to the Impact as they did in DC.

Still, I can't wait for these games to start, and I'm planning on being in Montreal for the tournament opener. Should be a fun time for all three sets of fans.

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quote:Originally posted by Rudi

It's true, TFC has looked terrible against MLS competition so far. But as good as Montreal may be, they are nowhere near the quality of DC United, and yet some here are predicting that Toronto will lose by as much or worse to the Impact as they did in DC.

True. ultimately, the matches will be decided on the pitch. And, if you just look at squads, there is more top flight experienced on TFC that the other USL conterparts. The knock on MLS clubs in US open cup is that they haven't taken the matches seriously. That shouldn't be the case this time.

Mtl

NO..NAME DOB POS CIT RESIDENCE LAST CLUB

2...Aguilar, Luis........1984-01-29 D USA Long Beach, CA California Victory

20..Biello , Mauro.......1972-08-08 M CAN Montréal Montreal Impact

33..Braz, Adam...........1981-06-07 D CAN Montréal Toronto FC (MLS)

10..Brown, Roberto.......1977-07-15 F Panama Denver,COL Colorado Rapids (MLS)

18..Di Lorenzo, Leonardo.1981-05-20 M ARG Buenos Aires, ARG Argentinos Juniors

24..Gatti, Simon.........1981-02-16 D CAN Welland, ON Rhode Island (PDL)

12..Gbeke, Charles.......1978-03-15 F Can Longueuil, Qc Rochester (USL)

8...Gervais, Gabriel.....1976-09-18 D CAN Montréal Montreal Impact

17..Gjertsen, Joey.......1982-06-13 F USA Tacoma, WA Vancouver Whitecaps

1...Jordan, Matt.........1975-10-13 G USA Denver, Colorado Montreal Impact

15..Leduc, Patrick.......1977-12-26 M CAN Saint-Hubert Montreal Impact

14..Matondo, Sita-Taty...1984-12-28 F CAN Montréal Vancouver Whitecaps

11..Moojen, Frederico....1983-02-25 F BRA Balneario Augusta (PDL)

30..Nunez, Cristian..... 1988-07-07 M CAN Montreal Toronto FC (MLS)

13..Palleschi, Matthew...1983-01-11 M CAN Toronto, On Toronto Lynx (USL)

29..Piques, Jon Paul.....1986-06-30 G CAN Woodbridge, ON SC Braga (Portugal)

5...Pizzolitto, Nevio....1976-08-26 D CAN Montréal Montreal Impact

23..Ribeiro, Antonio.....1980-10-08 M CAN Montréal Montreal Impact

6...Surprenant, Alex.....1989-09-04 D CAN St-Alexandre Trois-Rivières Attak (CSL)

7...Testo, David.........1981-08-07 M USA Arden, NC Vancouver Whitecaps

22..Weber, Andrew........1983-08-09 G USA Phoenix, AZ DC United (MLS)

TFC

NO..NAME...................POS.....DOB.......PLACE OF BIRTH.....LAST CLUB

29. Nana Attakora-Gyan......D... 1989-03-27......Canada.......TORONTO FC (MLS)

2...Andrew Boyens...........D....1983-09-18...New Zealand.....UNM NCAA

11..Jim Brennan.............D....1977-05-08......Canada.......SOUTHAMPTON (ENGLAND)

96..Jeff Cunningham........ F....1976-08-21.....Jamaica.......REAL SALT LAKE (MLS)

9...Danny Dichio............F....1974-10-19.....England.......PRESTON NORTH END (ENGLAND)

12..Todd Dunivant...........D....1980-12-26.......USA.........SAN jOSE (MLS)

6...Maurice Edu.............M....1986-04-18.......USA.........MARYLAND NCAA

18..Brian Edwards...........GK...1984-10-06.......USA.........wAKE FORREST NCAA

27..Gabe Gala...............D-M..1989-06-29......Nigeria......TORONTO FC (MLS)

5...Kevin Harmse............M....1984-07-04...South Africa....LOS ANGELES GALAXY (MLS)

24..Tyler Hemming...........M....1985-05-09.....Canada........HARTWICK COLLEGE NCAA

3...Julius James............D....1984-07-09.Trinidad & Tobago.CONNECTICUT NCAA

20..Andrea Lombardo.........F....1987-05-23.......Canada......AC PERUGIA (ITALY)

14..Tyrone Marshall.........D....1974-11-12.....Jamaica.......LOS ANGELES GALAXY

17..Joey Melo...............M....1989-01-25.......Canada......TORONTO FC (MLS)

8...Pat Phelan..............M-D..1985-01-16.......USA.........WAKE FORREST NCAA

32..Laurent Robert..........M....1975-05-21.......France......DERBY COUNTY (ENGLAND)

33..Carl Robinson...........M....1976-10-13......Wales........NORWICH CITY (ENGLAND)

15..Tyler Rosenlund.........M....1986-09-13.......Canada......ATVIDABERG (SWEDEN)

21..Collin Samuel...........F....1981-08-27.Trinidad & Tobago.DUNDEE UNITED (SCOTLAND)

23..Jarrod Smith............F....1984-06-20...New Zealand.....HAWKES BAY UNITED (NZ)

1...Greg Sutton.............GK...1977-04-19.......Canada......MONTREAL IMPACT USL

4...Marco Velez.............D....1980-06-26.....Puerto Rico...PUERTO RICO USL

16..Marvell Wynne...........M-D..1986-05-08........USA........NEW YORK RED BULLS MLS

Whitecaps

11..Nicholas Addlery F 12-7-1981 6-01 190 DC United (2007)

23..Vicente Arze M 11-22-1985 5-10 170 Mercer University

6...Luca Bellisomo D 10-25-1986 6-01 175 Simon Fraser U. ('04-'07)

4 Adrian Cann D 9-19-1980 6-03 184 Montreal Impact ('04 - '06)

2 Jeff Clarke M 10-18-1977 5-09 170 Portland Timbers (2001)

77 Srdjan Djekanovic G 1-8-1983 6-01 195 Toronto FC (2007)

14 Tony Donatelli M 6-7-1984 6-01 185 Ocean City Barons ('04 - '05)

22 Takashi Hirano M 7-15-1974 5-11 160 Omiya Ardija (2007)

15 Omar Jarun D 12-10-1983 6-05 225 Atlanta Silverbacks ('06-'07)

26 Jason Jordan F 5-30-1978 5-10 180 Langara ('98 - '99)

28 Diaz Kambere D 10-18-1985 5-09 165 Trinity Western U. ('05 - '06)

8 Steve Kindel D 2-25-1977 5-09 155 Hampton Roads Mariners (2000)

27 Stefan Leslie M 10-23-1987 5-10 160 Trinity Western U. ('06 - Present)

12 Geordie Lyall D 9-15-1976 5-11 170 Walsall FC ('06 - '07)

24 Lyle Martin D 3-25-1985 6-01 180 Bakersfield Brigade ('05 - '06)

20 Dave Morris M 2-8-1978 6-02 170 Abbotsford 86ers (1999)

7 Martin Nash M 12-27-1975 5-11 165 Montreal Impact (2003)

1 Jay Nolly G 1-2-1982 6-03 208 DC United (2007)

16 Eduardo Sebrango F 4-13-1973 6-01 180 Montreal Impact ('02 - '05)

9 Alfredo Valente M 11-6-1980 5-06 155 Edmonton Drillers ('98-'00)

13 Mason Webb M 5-6-1986 5-08 158 Oregon State U. ('04-'07)

3 Nick Webb F 5-6-1986 5-09 165 Oregon State U. ('05-'07)

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27-May Montreal v. Toronto = 1-1

17-June Montreal v. Vancouver = 1-0

25-June Vancouver v. Montreal = 1-0

01-July Toronto v. Vancouver = 2-0

09-July Vancouver v. Toronto = 0-0

22-July Toronto v. Montreal = 1-0

Toronto 2W 2D 8pts

Montreal 1W 1D 2L 4pts

Vancouver 1W 1D 2L 4pts

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I see a lot of TFC fans here complaining that other fans think their team is going to play terrible in the Voyagers Cup. Well Toronto has been playing terrible, just remember even though it was preseason Toronto lost to a USL team which John Carver called the worst performance he has ever seen. I am not here to debate which is a better team because obviously if TFC has a better payroll they SHOULD have a better team and they have access to better players. But if TFC keeps putting up these lack luster performances then I would have to give the nod to Montreal as the favorites from what I have seen so far. A lot can change from here till May, but even TFC fans have to admit Toronto does not impress anyone at the moment. I am not a fan of Montréal, I am a caps fan, and I think I am being generous when I award one win to them. If TFC plays better in the coming weeks before these games it could change

As of today my predictions are

W-D-L-PTS

2-1-1-7 Montreal

1-2-1-5 Toronto

1-1-2-4 Vancouver

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quote:Originally posted by finchster

I see a lot of TFC fans here complaining that other fans think their team is going to play terrible in the Voyagers Cup.

Odd. I don't think I've seen one such post in this thread.

My post is the closest to your description, and even then I said that TFC have been horrible thus far.

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  • 4 weeks later...

27-May Montreal v. Toronto = 1 - 2

17-June Montreal v. Vancouver = 2 - 0

25-June Vancouver v. Montreal = 2 - 2

01-July Toronto v. Vancouver = 4 - 1

09-July Vancouver v. Toronto = 0 - 1

22-July Toronto v. Montreal = 2 - 0

Toronto 4-0-0 12 9 2 +7

Montreal 1-1-2 4 5 6 -1

Vancouver 0-1-3 1 3 9 -6

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quote:Originally posted by Rudi

*Prints off, folds up, and sticks in back pocket* :D

And the date of the post! At least my brains came back to reality when Amado Guevara (plus the other 2 gents) joined and TFC started to look like a playoff bound MLS side.

Like I said I now think I will be eating my predictions (written on a small piece of paper and washed down with lots of Big Rock).

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27-May Montreal v. Toronto = 0-2

17-June Montreal v. Vancouver = 1 - 1

25-June Vancouver v. Montreal = 1 - 2

01-July Toronto v. Vancouver = 5 - 0

09-July Vancouver v. Toronto = 0 - 2

22-July Toronto v. Montreal = 3 - 0

Toronto is too strong especially in their backline. So don't except for Montreal and Vancouver to score on Toronto. Once Toronto get their DP striker, then they'll destroy Montreal & Vancouver by scoring tons of goals.

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27-May Montreal v. Toronto = 0-2

17-June Montreal v. Vancouver = 1 - 1

25-June Vancouver v. Montreal = 1 - 2

01-July Toronto v. Vancouver = 5 - 0

09-July Vancouver v. Toronto = 0 - 2

22-July Toronto v. Montreal = 3 - 0

Toronto is too strong especially in their backline. So don't except for Montreal and Vancouver to score on Toronto. Once Toronto get their DP striker, then they'll destroy Montreal & Vancouver by scoring tons of goals.

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if Carver plays his best starting 11 I really can't see vanny and mtl winning the games against TFC @ BMO.

MLS teams have scored just 1 goal in 4 games there this season and really none of them has had many chances. even last season with a crappy team, TFC got 5 of its 6 wins at home and the goals were 17 for, 18 against there (8 for, 31 against on the road).

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