Kurosawa1555362267 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 We learned this morning in the Journal de Montréal that the Saputo family is retarding the start of the construction of the Montreal stadium. Since the casino project in the Techno Parc failed the saputo are to keen on building the stadium there. At the same time the RIO (Régie des Installations Olympiques) has offered the Saputo some land close to Olympic Stadium. It seems this is a serious option and theSaputo think the construction won't start for another two months. THat makes the deadline for the WYC pretty close, right now the comittee is studying the possibility of playing the games at CCR. http://www2.canoe.com/sports/nouvelles/archives/2006/03/20060321-094400.html Soccer L'Impact au parc olympique ? Martin Smith Le Journal de Montréal 21/03/2006 09h44 Rebondissement majeur dans le dossier du stade Saputo... L'Impact pourrait jouer à l'ombre de la tour du Stade olympique plutôt que sur le bord du Saint-Laurent, tout juste au sud du pont Victoria. Le Journal de Montréal a appris qu'on a reporté les travaux de construction du stade au site initialement prévu à proximité de l'édifice de Téléglobe dans le Technoparc. Les travaux dans l'arrondissement sud-ouest devaient débuter à la fin de mars mais ont été reportés d'au moins deux mois. C'est le temps que Joey Saputo et ses conseillers se donnent pour examiner une proposition de la Régie des installations olympiques d'implanter le futur stade de 15M$, entièrement financé par des intérêts privés, dans le périmètre du Parc olympique. Le site proposé serait plus précisément un terrain situé à l'intersection sud-ouest des rues Sherbrooke et Viau. Impossible de faire confirmer la nouvelle au bureau de l'Impact mais la source du Journal est fiable au plus haut point. Avenir bouché dans le sud-ouest La récente décision de faire une croix sur le projet de casino et de salle pour le Cirque du Soleil au bassin Peel aurait passablement refroidi les ardeurs des responsables du futur stade pour le grand terrain de l'arrondissement sud-ouest. Sans une formidable locomotive pour assurer le développement de ce secteur de Montréal, l'avenir paraît bien moins porteur. À l'inverse, l'Impact a vu une porte s'entrebâiller dans l'est de la ville. Une ouverture nouvelle de la R.I.O., conséquente avec un retour à ses origines sportives grâce, entre autres, à l'implan-tation du Centre d'entraînement des sports aquatiques du Québec, en est à l'origine. Les dirigeants de l'Impact et la famille Saputo, qui s'est engagée à fournir la moitié des 15M$ prévus pour la construction du futur stade, ont décidé de s'accorder au moins deux mois pour étudier à fond la proposition de la Régie des installations olympiques. Un déménagement à l'ombre de la tour du Stade olympique avec une station de métro et de grands stationnements pour faciliter l'accès semble pleine de promesses. Et comme la R.I.O. possède les terrains, un tel projet pourrait être mis sur une voie rapide... Le Mondial junior à Claude-Robillard? Quelle que soit la solution retenue, il serait étonnant qu'on parvienne à construire le futur stade de soccer à temps pour que l'Impact y entame sa saison 2007 et que Montréal puisse offrir une infrastructure flambant neuve au groupe du Mondial junior 2007 qu'elle doit accueillir. Les hautes instances nationales du soccer seraient au courant de la situation qui prévaut à Montréal et auraient été avisées qu'un site de remplacement a déjà été identifié. Pari Arshagouni, président du comité organisateur montréalais de la Coupe du monde FIFA U-20, avait entendu des rumeurs au sujet d'un déménagement possible du futur stade Saputo et n'est donc pas tombé en bas de sa chaise quand le représentant du Journal de Montréal l'a mis au courant des derniers déve-loppements. «On ne m'a rien confirmé officiellement mais si c'est le cas, il faudra se tourner rapidement de bord car une délégation de la FIFA sera à Montréal le 10 avril, a dit Arshagouni. S'il faut trouver un site de remplacement, ce pourrait être le stade Claude-Robillard qui faisait partie de notre dossier de candidature initial.» Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 I always wondered about the site, they were planning to build where the autostade was in the 70's. I can remember going to see the alouttes play there, It was always windy and always cold, even in August, perhaps because the site is near the river. Finally acess to the site was awful,if they are getting interest from the RIO, the new site would be away from the river and have metro acess, a big bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alberto7 Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Not really surprised by this news. The big rush has always been the U-20 World Cup. I'm sure Saputo prefers to take his time and build the stadium in a great location instead of rushing it to be ready for the WYC and be stuck in a poor part of town. I was never too happy with the original location as it is not easy to get to. If they build it near the Big O, it will at least be accessible by Metro. CCR is not the prefered location for the WYC tounament but it will do just fine with a few upgrades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 quote:Originally posted by Alberto7 Not really surprised by this news. The big rush has always been the U-20 World Cup. I'm sure Saputo prefers to take his time and build the stadium in a great location instead of rushing it to be ready for the WYC and be stuck in a poor part of town. I was never too happy with the original location as it is not easy to get to. If they build it near the Big O, it will at least be accessible by Metro. CCR is not the prefered location for the WYC tounament but it will do just fine with a few upgrades. Put in temporary grass at either Molson or at the Big O and they're both fine. CCR isn't up to scratch for such an event. They should wait to see whose in the Montreal group before choosing a stadium. Imagine a Italy/Greece game. You'd sell 60,000 tickets. But a Russia/Japan game would be better off at a smaller stadium such a Molson/McGill. This is actually good news for Montreal soccer. The Autostade location was stupid and if it moves near the Olympic Stadium, as said earlier, you have a subway line and ample parking on site. a perfect place when MLSE sells it MLS team to Saputo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 quote:Originally posted by Alberto7 Not really surprised by this news. The big rush has always been the U-20 World Cup. I'm sure Saputo prefers to take his time and build the stadium in a great location instead of rushing it to be ready for the WYC and be stuck in a poor part of town. I was never too happy with the original location as it is not easy to get to. If they build it near the Big O, it will at least be accessible by Metro. CCR is not the prefered location for the WYC tounament but it will do just fine with a few upgrades. Put in temporary grass at either Molson or at the Big O and they're both fine. CCR isn't up to scratch for such an event. They should wait to see whose in the Montreal group before choosing a stadium. Imagine a Italy/Greece game. You'd sell 60,000 tickets. But a Russia/Japan game would be better off at a smaller stadium such a Molson/McGill. This is actually good news for Montreal soccer. The Autostade location was stupid and if it moves near the Olympic Stadium, as said earlier, you have a subway line and ample parking on site. a perfect place when MLSE sells it MLS team to Saputo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longlugan Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 you ever have anything positive to contribute? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 quote:Originally posted by longlugan you ever have anything positive to contribute? Welcome to the board. And to answer your question, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 quote:Originally posted by longlugan you ever have anything positive to contribute? I was being very postive about the stadium situation in Montreal. They currently have two good decent stadiums that can be used. If the new park in Toronto isn't built, they can use the Skydome and play on real grass. It's win win for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redhat Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 quote:Originally posted by G-Man I was being very postive about the stadium situation in Montreal. They currently have two good decent stadiums that can be used. If the new park in Toronto isn't built, they can use the Skydome and play on real grass. I knew you were going to say something about that stadium in T.O.! As for your suggestions, well they're good, but isn't Molson using fieldturf rather than grass? And would temp grass be feasible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 quote:Originally posted by redhat As for your suggestions, well they're good, but isn't Molson using fieldturf rather than grass? And would temp grass be feasible? The problem with Molson is stated below: http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/shownews.jsp?content=R032111AU Impact delays construction of soccer stadium to study alternate site MONTREAL (CP) - Construction of a new soccer stadium for the Montreal Impact will be delayed at least two months while the team explores an alternate site, Impact president Joey Saputo announced Tuesday. Work on the $15 million, privately financed stadium was to begin at the end of March at the Technoparc, a mostly vacant area south of downtown Montreal. Saputo said he accepted an invitation from the Olympic Installations Board to look at building the 15,000-seat soccer complex near Olympic Stadium in the east end. He said a decision would be made "within a few months" on which site best suits the needs of soccer in Quebec. The Technoparc area lost much of its lustre this winter when plans fell through to build a Casino and a complex for the Cirque du Soleil on the site. With the delay, the stadium will not be ready to open as planned for the start of the Impact's 2007 United Soccer League season or for the 2007 World Youth Championship. Montreal is to be one of six host cities for the world tournament. Construction has already begun in Toronto on a new national stadium at Exhibition Place, which will host the final of the World Youth Championship. A Canadian Soccer Association spokesman said two alternate sites are being studied in Montreal for use during the event - the Impact's current home at the Claude Robillard Centre and Percival Molson Stadium on the McGill University campus. The Robillard Centre may prove too small for the world tournament, while Molson Stadium may need a new surface to cover football lines on the current surface, which is used by the Montreal Alouettes of the Canadian Football League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Keeper Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Hmmm, Of corse I want the best possible stadium for Montreal, but things like this worry me given the nightmarish merry go round of stadium debates in this country. Im of a mind set almost where it's strictly, Ill believe it when I see it;even though I do have alot of faith in the Saputo and Montreal organization. CCR is definatley too small I think. Molson stadium wouldnt be a bad second choice, with temporarily recovered grass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 The new location is probably better but the disturbing thing is that the $15 million figure is still being mentioned. Considering that Toronto is building a stadium a bit on the cheap at $62.5 what is the $15 million Montreal one going to be like. Building CCR would probably cost about that so are we just going to get an updated CCR which will not be a great improvement. I can only hope Saputo will get some more financing or is doing some things under the table that are lowering the cost. I also think Molson is a better option than CCR. It looks far more professional and will not give the impression that a world competition is being held in a 3rd or 4th division stadium. The field turf field although not natural grass is still probably superior to the grass field at CCR. A good grass field would be preferrable but the CCR field is not good. Its location is both more scenic, more convenient and close to downtown which will be much better for visiting fans. Press/washroom and many other types of facilities are far better than at CCR. I think that the field lines or turf/grass issue (remember Field Turf will be used both in Ottawa and Toronto) can be resolved much easier than the numerous problems CCR would present. If the games are held at Molson it might actually be preferrable to them being held in the new stadium if the $15 million price tag holds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 Pretty curious but if the origional site was selected in part as a redeveloping area and the key developments have since fallen through there's no scense building a stadium in some ugly empty industrial zone. That would suck. Maybe I'm reading this whole thing wrong but that was my impression of the area origionaly targetted for this stadium. Molson Stadium would be a perfect size I'd think. For crowds and the pitch. Could lay quite a heavy layer of earth and sod over the FieldTurf, keep a carefull eye on the whole thing and manage a pretty good temp surface for the couple of weeks you'd need it. So long as the weather co-operates. And I don't know how much Saputo and company can do to keep the price of their stadium & complex down. Not counting land costs $15M still stands at a pretty low end to me. Floodlights, a scoreboard and a ring of steel bleachers I'm going to bet. Or something close to. Main building might be pretty good though if not spectacular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted March 22, 2006 Share Posted March 22, 2006 1. Blackbaud was build on the cheap and looks great. Although, check out the Sherbrooke stadium (especially the grandstand), an admitted influence. 2. CCR is getting resodded this summer and I'm guessing that like last year the groundskeepers will be Saputo's golf people. The pitch is in awful shape but should be great for the opener. 3. Remember the stadium in Cordoba Canada played in in 2001. Can't be much worse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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