Forge's Board E4: Red Cards and #Raingate

Yesterday Armaan Wilson scored, assisted and played 90 in KTP's 5-1 win over SJK Akatemia in Finland's 2nd tier

Ok I took my pills as Gareth Wheeler has spoken sense. Bookmark that.

I really love AGR. Almost universal great takes and clearly a hell of a mind for the game, stats etc. I Like the content he and the one soccer team do. What I got from that long video and homage to Marsch (said tongue in cheek):  - question marks on whether his style would work at the international level - question marks as to how his style could be detrimental to players - question marks on on his club career and how successful he is in general.  - question marks on his commitment if the US comes calling  And ultimately that Marsch is, almost clearly from the rumoured list, our best choice despite all of that. While its a bit of a fun. I also don't get the excitement with his beef with Gregg/US program. That is US drama, we are potentially the rebound partner laughing until we realise he is still in love with her not us. We don't need more drama. Especially USA drama.  Also the big, he knows concacaf. Does he? He knows the MLS. Did he have lots of experience with the other 90% of concacaf. Does the MLS thing matter all that much when half the squad is coming from Europe? Sure it's nice but does anyone believe a coach that didn't manage in MLS would be able to work it out?  Honest to God I apologise for another pointless rant and honest I don't hate the guy and think he would absolutely be a bust. I think there is a lot of overt excitement in that video and elsewhere about this list of guys that arguably are worse on paper than Floro. There is limited to no international management experience. Not the be all end all if they have stand out resumes and success at other levels. While likeable I don't think there were many people ever convinced by solskjaer. He fits the same would as lampard, Gerrard, Henry, shearer.. they got given opportunities of their name as a player/club idol. Yes they managed big name players, they worked with them is a better word as didn't each ultimately not manage to handle the egos? We are also where we are at but it's not the same Canadian team prior to Herdman, there is huge potential and opportunites to grow. There just seems to be two ends to this spectrum and an invisible more realistic missing list of the middle. As @youllneverwalkalone rightly says, absurd. Can't we have a coach somewhere closer to the middle of this list and mourinho? 🥵 I'm all over Bobby as assistant whomever takes charge.    

He deserves a good long look, but so does Bombito.  The only question for me would be whether you have the position awareness, organization and leadership there with them as a pair. 

Tuchel's coming to West Ham, don'cha know?   *sound of an off-camera gunshot*   

Marsch was an international assistant to Bradley for a not unsubstantial number of games.    I have never seen Christiansen even implied as wanting to come to us, so not sure how he is any more realistic than coaches not actually under contract currently.   You do usually have to pay fees  to get people out of those.   I am not sure why he tops people's lists. Panama in the last cycle has beat the teams they should and lost to the teams they should (the USA B/C squad at the Gold Cup  being a positive exception and Jamaica in the Nations League a possible negative one.)  That says good not amazing to me.  Combine that with him having such a mediocre club record compared some of the others.  But most important, personally, would say his teams are too much build slowly, possession-based to really take advantage of what our best players do.   

Maybe Ghotbi is trying to deflect from his squad's poor performance but whining about the balls is a pretty lame excuse IMO. Cavalry played far from their best on Tuesday and Vancouver couldn't capitalize. They went down to 10 (rightfully so) and then took it to Vancouver. 

If you want him to play leftback and stick to being a left back, then it goes against what you said about being versatile.  He needs a defined role and we need a defined system.  The debate about where is different, but I probably agree he is not a player you hand the keys to the offence and say "go be versatile." But you do say go harass and beat people on the wings and then cut it back to the plethora of finishers we have or make room for yourself because you are not a bad finisher yourself.  That's your role.  And David and Larin are similar, they are not versatile players who create their own chances,  they both can be good in transition but most often they are beholden to service.  We don't have an amazing 10 to unlock defences and give them that service, instead you look for a system that provides it.  Fonseca's at Lille is an example, but if you listen to him speak about his coaching (he has been linked with West Ham) it is a defined system that requires pressing.    I would appreciate the Herdman quote about the World Cup and "pressing".  My impression was he let the players play more attacking because they wanted to, I don't remember much about pressing. I could be wrong.      Again, respectfully ,your last couple of sentences, to me, misunderstand what gegenpress is.  If you have a defence you are confident in, like a number of English managers, you clog your final third and invited the pressure and, win the ball back there, then look to counter.   In Ragnick/Klopp/Marsch ideal, you really never want the ball getting to your defence.   You are trying to get the ball back much higher, where are our good athletic players are - Davies, David, Buchanan, Kone - if he had a coach that could  instill that in him - and Eustaquio who can at least run all day and can pick a pass.  The defence will look to jump in offensively  and protect breaks - we will have a much more athletic group than the World Cup , I am willing to bet - but you shouldn't need, as much, players whose strength is dealing with sustained pressure, which are  what I would say would be the faults of the inexperienced group we might send out.  So if we have good athletic forwards and maybe a suspect tactical defence, the Marsch system is a great fit to use the strength we have and try to lessen the prominence of the weakness.   

Let's bloody well hope so!