RJB Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 It seems that Kenny Miller will be going to train with Rangers this offseason, and I'm just wondering why. Is the MLS season not long enough? Is it not hard enough? Henry is being rumoured to go back to Arsenal, and many players in the past have gone overseas in the offseason, which sends a message that the season here is not strenuous at all, and that they have much in the tank at the end. After all, European players don't go train with other clubs during their offseason, as they need the rest. Barry Robson is a case in point, as he would not report early to the 'Caps since he needed the time to recover. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 It is one of a steadily shortening list of things that still looks Mickey Mouse from my point of view. Players going off to play in "competitive" leagues the minute they can seemingly escape the confines of MLS On the other hand, having somebody like Donovan shine at Everton sure makes it hard to discount the league in which he earns his bread and butter, and has undoubtedly changed a number of opinions along the way. I know that doesn't speak to your original suggestion, which I think is a valid one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yohan Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 It's really a trial under disguise of training IMO Though for teams not in playoffs, it is a pretty long off season in MLS in comparison to European leagues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 For the Caps sake hopefully Miller stays at Rangers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKottonmouthed1555362307 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 For the Caps sake hopefully Miller stays at Rangers. That's what I'm hoping. I think it's a PR strategy to try and stay away from Jarju comparisons in complete DP blunders. Try to spin it positively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatest Cockney Rip Off Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Is the MLS season not long enough? Thoughts? I think it is more that the off season is too long. How many months until the season starts again? Compared to what most european players are used to, the off season in NA is much longer. The training helps to keep them fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 For the Caps sake hopefully Miller stays at Rangers. I know he had a rough year but surely he doesn't belong in the Scottish third division yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKottonmouthed1555362307 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 I know he had a rough year but surely he doesn't belong in the Scottish third division yet! Since his Ranger days he's gone 2 years 67 games with 18 goals compared to his the previous 2 years 70 with 43 goals. His performance has been cut in half. If he comes back to the 'Caps next year I expect double digits from a DP striker, and I highly doubt we can rely on him for that, unless he gets back to the form he had in '08-'10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 By my count ten forwards spent all of 2012 in MLS on Designated Player contracts. Four got to 10 goals (Henry, Montero, Saborio, Keane). And this is a bit generous on my part, since if we added in some of the earlier-2012 guys it would be a massacre. Be careful to keep your expectations realistic. Ten goals is a lot. Only thirteen players got there this past season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 By my count ten forwards spent all of 2012 in MLS on Designated Player contracts. Four got to 10 goals (Henry, Montero, Saborio, Keane). And this is a bit generous on my part, since if we added in some of the earlier-2012 guys it would be a massacre. Be careful to keep your expectations realistic. Ten goals is a lot. Only thirteen players got there this past season. I think over 10 goals is a very realistic expectation of a DP forward, indeed I would call it a modest expectation. What your statistic shows is that the teams are not doing a very good job of selecting DP forwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheKottonmouthed1555362307 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 I think over 10 goals is a very realistic expectation of a DP forward, indeed I would call it a modest expectation. What your statistic shows is that the teams are not doing a very good job of selecting DP forwards. This is what I tend to agree with. Miller with his 2 in 11 would of been on pace for maybe 6 in a full 34, so for him to keep Vancouver afloat he'll have to double his scoring rate at the very least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yohan Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 I think over 10 goals is a very realistic expectation of a DP forward, indeed I would call it a modest expectation. What your statistic shows is that the teams are not doing a very good job of selecting DP forwards. if a wage is the primary indicator of how a player's production should be judged, Thierry Henry is one of worst DPs ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Bob Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 I think over 10 goals is a very realistic expectation of a DP forward, indeed I would call it a modest expectation. What your statistic shows is that the teams are not doing a very good job of selecting DP forwards. In that case it's not a realistic expectation by definition, as it's one that is usually not met. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted December 30, 2012 Author Share Posted December 30, 2012 http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2012/12/29/report-sunderland-talks-bring-nys-cahill-loan And now Cahill is off to Sunderland? It is clear to me that there is not enough games, and the season is not physically draining if all these players continue to go overseas in the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadianfoot Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 I think over 10 goals is a very realistic expectation of a DP forward, indeed I would call it a modest expectation. What your statistic shows is that the teams are not doing a very good job of selecting DP forwards. EPL last year had 21guys 10+ goals La Liga Sam 21guys 10+ goals Ligue 1 had 14 guys Bundesliga 18 guys Serie A 19guys Eredivise 19guys Now those are Top Flight European leagues with budgets we cannot compete. Having a DP is great but without support he is worthless. There is a saying in Poland that even Hercules is crap if the odds are against him. Lets look at leagues closer to MLS Polish Ekstraklasa 6guys 10+ goals a season Austria 7guys Belgium 14guys Czech Rep. 8guys Denmark 6guys Greece 8guys Turkey 18guys mind you Turkey clubs have lots of money lately All numbers taken from www.soccervista.com 2011/2012 season MLS 2011 apparently had 15guys while in season of 2012 there were 13guys not sure if they include playoffs and what not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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