G-Man Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 quote:Originally posted by Richard G-Man, do you ever have anything constructive to say about soccer in Canada? yes I do. I made a very positive comment about the Metro-Croatians. How they were 30 years ahead in it's marketing the game to North America. When other were reaching out to the great soccer waste lands of white suburbia, naming teams "Surf" "TeaMen" "Strikers" "Rougues" "Cosmos" they were being proudly euro. 30 year later, the MLS starts calling teams "Real" "FC" "Dynamo" "Chivas" and the soon to be Toronto "Hindu African UK Continentals" Like I said. A very positive comment on a Toronto soccer team. (the Metro-Croatians) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 OK, I'll concede that one comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve B Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 "This is going to be a very basic, basic stadium," says the guy at MLSE responsible for the stadium project. see CP article at: http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/shownews.jsp?content=R032835AU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 I agree with G-Man that the journalist, or perhaps the source, effectively treated the "ethnics" as on-a-tight-income types. Thus associating the groups referred to -Italians would be first on their minds- with the local working class. That is racial typing and, apart from being totally untrue considering the evolution of such groups over the generations, reflects they don't know their market as well as they think they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calgary Boomer Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 I'm more concerned about the reference to this stadium being referred to as "very very basic" stadium. This is the problem with the whole project...so much is dependant on the facility, and so much time was wasted finding a site, that now we're going to have a very generic, facility. I'm glad Joey is taking his time and looking for a better site option...because you don't want to be stuck with a crappy stadium that was built in a rush for 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 Give me a break. You guys are fishing for something or you're too sensative. Hopkinson says "it's an affordable sports event geared toward families and the ethnic market, with the average ticket price in the $20-30 range." You know the only reason he said ethnics is because ethnics are more interested in soccer than anglos, at least in Toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest speedmonk42 Posted March 29, 2006 Share Posted March 29, 2006 quote:Originally posted by Manuel Give me a break. You guys are fishing for something or you're too sensative. Hopkinson says "it's an affordable sports event geared toward families and the ethnic market, with the average ticket price in the $20-30 range." You know the only reason he said ethnics is because ethnics are more interested in soccer than anglos, at least in Toronto. I have to agree with you This is fishing for problems that are not there. You could easily mash three different ideas into one sentence and have it sound like one thing but mean another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealGooner Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 quote:Originally posted by speedmonk42 I have to agree with you This is fishing for problems that are not there. You could easily mash three different ideas into one sentence and have it sound like one thing but mean another. Certain posters on this board are famous for finding real and imaginary faults with everything connected to Toronto's stadium and MLS project. Its simply par for the course here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 quote:Originally posted by RealGooner Certain posters on this board are famous for finding real and imaginary faults with everything connected to Toronto's stadium and MLS project. Its simply par for the course here. The big fault with the Toronto MLS project is that Toronto is a terrible market for a local pro soccer team. Can't get around that one. And demeaning people by suggesting the only reason they'll go to a game is that they're "Ethnic" isn't going to sell a ton of tickets. And the stadium is butt ugly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealGooner Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 quote:Originally posted by G-Man [ And demeaning people by suggesting the only reason they'll go to a game is that they're "Ethnic" isn't going to sell a ton of tickets. He didnt say that. You're making things up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted March 30, 2006 Share Posted March 30, 2006 quote:Originally posted by RealGooner He didnt say that. You're making things up. Par for the course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealGooner Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 quote:Originally posted by Calgary Boomer I'm more concerned about the reference to this stadium being referred to as "very very basic" stadium..... I'm glad Joey is taking his time and looking for a better site option...because you don't want to be stuck with a crappy stadium that was built in a rush for 2007. Joey's stadium will cost $17 million according to him. If you think Toronto's stadium is basic, Montreal's will be bare-bones. Expect a stadium consisting of prefab bleachers and grass embankments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 quote:Originally posted by RealGooner Joey's stadium will cost $17 million according to him. If you think Toronto's stadium is basic, Montreal's will be bare-bones. Expect a stadium consisting of prefab bleachers and grass embankments. stop being so negative towards montreal. montreal's actually looks like a small uero pitch, while the future home of the MLS looks like a 1970 concrete slab in need of a roof and a track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooks Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 You can build one hell of a nice little stadium for $17 million. Not everything needs to be gold plated. Rochester's PAETEC Park is being built for roughly $27 Million CAD and it is mint. It is also much bigger, and has the added intitial expense of artificial turf. When you are building a SSS that has one job to do, $17 million is plenty. If anyone was willing to throw $17 million Calgary's way, I'd take it in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 quote:Originally posted by G-Man montreal's actually looks like a small uero pitch And you figured this out how? From that one picture of the outer wall? From that artist's rendering with a sattelite's eye view? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 quote:Originally posted by Cooks You can build one hell of a nice little stadium for $17 million. Not everything needs to be gold plated. Rochester's PAETEC Park is being built for roughly $27 Million CAD and it is mint. It is also much bigger, and has the added intitial expense of artificial turf. When you are building a SSS that has one job to do, $17 million is plenty. If anyone was willing to throw $17 million Calgary's way, I'd take it in a heartbeat. I read a MacLean's article on how much money there is in Calgary right now. No soccer-loving sugar daddies out there Cooks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 quote:Originally posted by Rudi And you figured this out how? From that one picture of the outer wall? From that artist's rendering with a sattelite's eye view? Rudi, why bother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealGooner Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 quote:Originally posted by G-Man stop being so negative towards montreal. montreal's actually looks like a small uero pitch, while the future home of the MLS looks like a 1970 concrete slab in need of a roof and a track. You should take your own advice with regards to Toronto. 'Pogey Park', 'Concrete Slab'. Hypocrite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 quote:Originally posted by RealGooner You should take your own advice with regards to Toronto. 'Pogey Park', 'Concrete Slab'. Hypocrite. You can tell what you want. all I said was stop being negative towards Montreal. Without Government money- that pitch doesn't get built. So the term "Pogey Park" fits. And if you really don't like the Toronto MLS team being questioned, there is a great **** eating Toronto MLS fan site you can also head to. Where never is a negative word heard. Until 2009. when the word will be "relocate" and it'll be used the following manner. The Toronto Sealers United have been relocated to Montreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooks Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 quote:I read a MacLean's article on how much money there is in Calgary right now. No soccer-loving sugar daddies out there Cooks? If there were, I'd have slept with all of them by now. (To paraphrase Bart Simpson, "You don't want to know how far I'll go to get a stadium in Calgary) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealGooner Posted March 31, 2006 Share Posted March 31, 2006 quote:Originally posted by G-Man You can tell what you want. all I said was stop being negative towards Montreal. Without Government money- that pitch doesn't get built. So the term "Pogey Park" fits. And if you really don't like the Toronto MLS team being questioned, there is a great **** eating Toronto MLS fan site you can also head to. Where never is a negative word heard. Until 2009. when the word will be "relocate" and it'll be used the following manner. The Toronto Sealers United have been relocated to Montreal. Touched a nerve there did I G-man? The truth really does hurt doesn't it, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted April 1, 2006 Share Posted April 1, 2006 quote:Originally posted by RealGooner Touched a nerve there did I G-man? The truth really does hurt doesn't it, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmac Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 A short article by Peter Mallett in today's [Ap.5] Globe & Mail reports that an "inspection team" from FIFA is to arrive in B.C. to begin a tour of the U-20 host cities. What's the point? Sounds like a "boondoggle" to me. I am not sure what they are going to inspect apart from the better restaurants in each city. It does however conclude [relevance to post]that there will be a wrap-up new conference in TO at which further details concerning the new stadium "are expected to be announced". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fetajr Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 quote:Originally posted by Grizzly The Hull City Stadium is a great looking stadium. However, it cost 44 million pounds in 2001-2002 to build (built in 14 months) which is about 90 million CDN. The MLSE budget is 62 million. MLSE are a bunch of tight a$$es, they would spend 60 million a year on a crap hockey team, and now that there is a cap, they only spend 40 mil. They should go all out on the stadium so that its exactly like the one in the Hull link above. The bleacher ROOF is KEY!@!!, it'll bring people to the game when its raining! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fetajr Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 quote:Originally posted by Grizzly The Hull City Stadium is a great looking stadium. However, it cost 44 million pounds in 2001-2002 to build (built in 14 months) which is about 90 million CDN. The MLSE budget is 62 million. MLSE are a bunch of tight a$$es, they would spend 60 million a year on a crap hockey team, and now that there is a cap, they only spend 40 mil. They should go all out on the stadium so that its exactly like the one in the Hull link above. The bleacher ROOF is KEY!@!!, it'll bring people to the game when its raining! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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