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MASTER LIST: Mother of all Canadians Abroad

If you offer corrections please post the link that will confirm your info. Tks

Legend: Player, Team, League, Division Ranking, Player Level

i.e. Robert Kerek - FC Freiburg (German Bundesliga 2) (2) U18

Updated list November 4, 2005

Argentina

Manny Gomez - River Plate (Argentina Premier League) (1) Youth

Belgium

Mike Klukowski - Club Brugge (Belgian Jupiler League) (1)

Asmir Begovic - La Louvière (Belgian Jupiler League) (1) on loan from Portsmouth (English Premier League) (1)

Vincent Cournoyer - Royal Excelsior Mouscron (Belgian Jupiler League) (1) U20

Kevin Courcelle - Royal Excelsior Mouscron (Belgian Jupiler League) (1) U18

Bosnia-Herzegovina

Mario Ostojic - NK Celik Zenica (Premijer Liga) (1)

Brazil

Maxim Grootenboer-Gagnon - Rio Branco Americana (Brazil Championship Série C) (3) U17

Croatia

Fabian Knezevic Jr. - Kamen Ingrad (Croatian 1.HNL Ozujsko) (1) Youth

Denmark

Marco Reda - AaB Aalborg (Danish Superligaen) (1)

England

Paul Stalteri - Tottenham (English Premier League) (1)

Tomasz Radzinski - Fulham (English Premier League) (1)

David Edgar - Newcastle (English Premier League) (1) Reserves

David (Junior) Hoillet - Blackburn (English Premier League) (1) Youth

Janeil Hoillet - Blackburn (English Premier League) (1) Youth

Iain Hume - Leicester City (English The Championship) (2)

Jim Brennan - Norwich (English The Championship) (2)

Paul Peschisolido - Derby County (English The Championship) (2)

Jason De Vos - Ipswich Town (English The Championship) (2)

Jaime Peters - Ipswich Town (English The Championship) (2)

Josh Simpson - Millwall (English The Championship) (2)

Marc Bircham - QPR (English The Championship) (2)

Ryan Gyaki - Sheffield United (English The Championship) (2) U19

Zach Kalthoff - Southampton (English The Championship) (2) Youth

Thomas MacLean - FC Burnley (English The Championship) (2) Youth

Gavin McCallum - Yeovil Town (English League One) (3) Reserves

Simon Rayner - Lincoln City (English League Two) (4)

Simeon Jackson - Rushden & Diamonds (English League Two) (4) Reserves

Ross Smith - Gravesend & Northfleet (Nationwide Conference National) (5)

Justin Thompson - Worcester City (Nationwide Conference North) (6)

Elliott Godfrey - Hampton & Richmond Borough (Ryman Isthmian League Premier Division) (7)

Jon Henry-Hayden - Hampton & Richmond Borough (Ryman Isthmian League Premier Division) (7)

Mika Dronyk - Bashley FC (Ryman Isthmian League First Division) (8) Reserves

France

Calvin Rosario - Tours FC (Championnat National) (3) Reserves

Germany

Marinko Maras - Kaiserlautern (German Bundesliga 1) (1) U19

Daniel Imhof - VfL Bochum (German Bundesliga 2) (2)

Tam Nsaliwa - Saarbrucken (German Bundesliga 2) (2)

Kevin McKenna - Energie Cottbus (German Bundesliga 2) (2)

Amir Haroon - Energie Cottbus (German Bundesliga 2) (2) U18

Robert Kerek - FC Freiburg (German Bundesliga 2) (2) U18

John Sulentic - St. Pauli (German Regionalliga Nord) (3)

Nik Ledgerwood - 1860 München Amateurs (German Regionalliga Sud) (3)

Maycoll Canizales - Hannover96 Amateurs (Oberliga Nord) (4)

Blerim Rrustemi - Borussia Monchengladbach Amateurs (Oberliga Nordrhein) (4)

Victor Oppong - Waldhof Mannheim (Oberliga Baden-Württemberg) (4)

Kent O'Connor - 1860 München (Junioren-Bundesliga Süd/Südwest) U19

Greece

Daniel Fernandes - PAOK (Ethniki Katigoria) (1)

Stathis Kappos - Akratitos (Ethniki Katigoria) (1)

Holland

Jonathan de Guzman - Feyenoord (Holland Casino Ere Divisie) (1)

Graham Ramalho - Jong Gronigen A1 (Holland Casino Ere Divisie) (1)

Marcel de Jong - Helmond Sport (Gouden Gids Divisie) (2)

Max Baessato - Jong FC Den Bosch (Gouden Gids Divisie) (2)

Ireland

Gavin Russell - Shelbourne FC (Irish Premier League) (1) U17

Israel

Shmuel Hazan - Maccabi Netanya (Ligat ha-Al) (1)

Italy

Andrea Lombardo - Atalanta (Serie B) (2) Primavera

Carlo Seminara - Salernitana (Serie C1 A) (3) Berretti

Julian Uccello - AC Sansovino (Serie C2 B) (4)

Rocco Placentino - Gualdo Calcio (Serie C2 B) (4) on loan from AC Arezzo (Serie B) (2)

David Masciantonio - AC Monterotondo (Serie D Girone G) (5)

Gianluca Zavarise - Calcio Montebelluna (Serie D Girone D) (5) Berretti

Giancarlo Di Sano - Castelrigone (Eccellenza Umbria) (6) on loan from AC Perugia (Serie B) (2) Juniores

Northern Ireland

Ian Mannus - Glentoran (Irish League) (1) Reserves

Norway

Olivier Occean - Odd Grenland (Norwegian Tippeligaen) (1)

Rob Friend - Molde (Norwegian Tippeligaen) (1)

Patrice Bernier - Tromso (Norwegian Tippeligaen) (1)

Stephen Ademolu - Tromso (Norwegian Tippeligaen) (1)

Lars Hirschfeld - Tromso (Norwegian Tippeligaen) (1)

Sandro Grande - Viking (Norwegian Tippeligaen) (1)

Milan Kojic - Haugesund (Norwegian Adeccoligaen) (2)

Chris Pozniak - Haugesund (Norwegian Adeccoligaen) (2)

Nikola Budalic - Haugesund (Norwegian Adeccoligaen) (2)

Kevin De Serpa - Haugesund (Norwegian Adeccoligaen) (2)

Peru

Michael Abusabal - Bolognesi (Peruvian Premier League) (1) U16

Poland

Dawid Kwiek - Wisla Krakow (Polish 1. Liga) (1) Juniorzy starsi Youth

Portugal

Steven Vitoria - FC Porto (Portuguese Superliga) (1) Junior-A U19

Michael Pereira - FC Porto (Portuguese Superliga) (1) Junior-B U17

Fernando Aguiar - Gondomar (Portuguese Liga Honra) (2)

Marco Brás - Pampilhosa (Campeonato Nacional da 2ª Divisão Serie C) (3)

Russia

Ante Jazic - SC Kuban Krasnodar (Russian 1st League) (2)

Scotland

Rhian Dodds - Kilmarnock (Scottish Premier League) (1)

Richard Hastings - Inverness CT (Scottish Premier League) (1)

Jacob Lensky - Glasgow Celtic (Scottish Premier League) (1) U19

Robert Giacomi - Stirling Albion (Scottish Second Division) (3)

on loan from Glasgow Rangers (Scottish Premier League) (1) U19

Singapore

Issey Farran Nakajima - Albirex Niigata (S-League) (1)

Spain

Julian de Guzman - Deportivo La Coruña (Primera Division) (1)

Sweden

Atiba Hutchinson - Helsingborg (Swedish Allsvenskan) (1)

Tyler Hughes - Östers (Swedish Allsvenskan) (1)

Ali Gerba - Sundsvall (Swedish Superettan) (2)

Kenny Stamatopoulos - Bodens BK (Swedish Division 2) (3)

on loan from Enkopings (Swedish Division 2) (3)

Switzerland

Dominic Imhof - FC Gossau (Swiss 1. Liga - Gruppe 3) (3)

Christoph Imhof - FC Gossau (Swiss 1. Liga - Gruppe 3) (3)

Trinidad & Tobago

James Devenish - Queens Royal College Youth

Turkey

Rasih Pala - Istanbul Buyuksehir Belediye Sport Kulubu (Turkish 2 Futbol Ligi) (2)

United States

Dwayne De Rosario - San Jose Earthquakes (Major League Soccer) (1)

Pat Onstad - San Jose Earthquakes (Major League Soccer) (1)

Will Johnson - Chicago Fire (Major League Soccer) (1)

Winston Marshall - FC Dallas (Major League Soccer) (1) Developmental Roster

CJ Peznecker - Minnesota Thunder (USL First Division) (2)

Felix Brillant Jr. - Virginia Beach Mariners (USL First Division) (2)

Kyle Fletcher - Western Mass Pioneers (USL Second Division) (3)

Robert (Bobby) Bicker - West Virginia Chaos (PDL) (4)

Alim Karim - Cape Cod Crusaders (Premier Development League) (4) - Syracuse University Orange (Big East Conference)

Liam Girard - Boulder Rapids Reserve (PDL) (4) - University of Denver Pioneers (Mountain Pacific Sports Federation)

Tyler Baldock - West Virginia Chaos (PDL) (4) - Carson-Newman College Eagles (South Atlantic Conference)

Wales

John Toner - Total Network Solutions (Welsh Premier League) (1)

Jonathan Lee - Pontypridd Town F.C. (Welsh Football League Second Division) (3)

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Canadians on Trial/Draft Picks

Keegan Ayre - Hibernian (Scottish Premier League) (1)

Andre Hainault - Derby County (English The Championship) (2)

Jonathan Bourgault - St. Pauli (German Regionalliga Nord) (3)

Christian Schmidt - Ferencvaros (Hungarian Arany Aszok Liga) (1) Youth

Matt Baca - Legia Warszawa (Poland 1. Liga) (1)

Mark Drapala - Pogon Szczecin (Poland 1. Liga) (1) Energetyk Gryfino

Carmelo Rago Jr - Universidad Catolica (Chile Primera Division) (1) U23

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Thanks Joe. I have sticky'd this thread, which becomes our official chronicle for Canucks abroad on the forum (we do have a more static list accessible from the home page) from this point on.

Joe, please maintain the FIRST post of this thread as your current list, to be revised as appropriate, so we can refer to the first post for the most updated list.

I will lock the old thread, which will serve as an archive for ready reference by searching function.

For archive function, I am preserving the recent copy of the list posted today on the next thread.

Cheers, and thanks for your hard work and taking over this important job.

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Updated list June 23, 2005; for archive purposes

Argentina

Manny Gomez - River Plate (Argentina Premier League) (1) Youth

Belgium

Mike Klukowski - Club Brugge (Belgian Jupiler League) (1)

Adam Wallace - KSV Roeselare (Belgian Jupiler League) (1)

Kevin Courcelle - Royal Excelsior Mouscron (Belgian Jupiler League) (1) U18

Bosnia-Herzegovina

Mario Ostojic - NK Celik Zenica (Premijer Liga) (1)

Brazil

Maxim Grootenboer-Gagnon - Rio Branco Americana (Brazil Championship Série C) (3) U17

Croatia

Fabian Knezevic Jr. - Kamen Ingrad (Croatian 1.HNL Ozujsko) (1) Youth

Denmark

Marco Reda - AaB Aalborg (Danish Superligaen) (1)

Charles Gbeke - Herfølge (Danish 1st Division) (2)

England

Paul Stalteri - Tottenham (English Premier League) (1)

Tomasz Radzinski - Fulham (English Premier League) (1)

David Edgar - Newcastle (English Premier League) (1) Reserves

Asmir Begovic - Portsmouth (English Premier League) (1) U18

Shaun Saiko - Middlesbrough (English Premier League) (1) Youth Scholarship Offer

Jaswinder Gill - Charlton Athletic (English Premier League) (1) Youth Scholarship Offer

Jim Brennan - Norwich (English The Championship) (2)

Paul Peschisolido - Derby County (English The Championship) (2)

Jason De Vos - Ipswich Town (English The Championship) (2)

Jaime Peters - Ipswich Town (English The Championship) (2)

Adrian Serioux - Millwall (English The Championship) (2)

Josh Simpson - Millwall (English The Championship) (2)

Marc Bircham - QPR (English The Championship) (2)

Ryan Gyaki - Sheffield United (English The Championship) (2) U19

Zach Kalthoff - Southampton (English The Championship) (2) Youth

Thomas MacLean - FC Burnley (English The Championship) (2) Youth

Iain Hume - Tranmere (English League One) (3)

Cam Wilson - Bristol City (English League One) (3) Reserves

Gavin McCallum - Yeovil Town (English League One) (3) Youth

Simon Rayner - Lincoln City (English League Two) (4)

Elliot Godfrey - Hampton & Richmond Borough (Isthmian Ryman League Premier Division) (7)

Mika Dronyk - Bashley FC - (Isthmian Ryman League First Division) (8)

Jon Henry-Hayden - Ashford Town (Middlesex) Reserves (Suburban Football League Premier Division)

France

Calvin Rosario - Tours FC (Championnat National 18 Ans Groupe C) (6)

Germany

Marinko Maras - Kaiserlautern (German Bundesliga 1) (1) U19

Daniel Imhof - VfL Bochum (German Bundesliga 2) (2)

Tam Nsaliwa - Saarbrucken (German Bundesliga 2) (2)

Kevin McKenna - Energie Cottbus (German Bundesliga 2) (2)

Amir Haroon - Energie Cottbus (German Bundesliga 2) (2) Youth

Robert Kerek - FC Freiburg (German Bundesliga 2) (2) Youth

John Sulentic - St. Pauli (German Regionalliga Nord) (3)

Dylan Hughes - Jahn Regensburg (German Regionalliga Sud) (3)

Nik Ledgerwood - 1860 München Amateurs (German Regionalliga Sud) (3)

Maycoll Canizales - Hannover96 Amateurs (Oberliga Nord) (4)

Blerim Rrustemi - Borussia Monchengladbach Amateurs (Oberliga Nordrhein) (4)

Victor Oppong - Waldhof Mannheim (Oberliga Baden-Württemberg) (4)

Ryan Thomson - Rot Weiss Essen Amateurs (Landesliga Niederrhein Gruppe 1) (6)

Timothy Röhrig - Wiker SV (Bezirksliga Schleswig-Holstein Ost) (7)

Kent O'Connor - 1860 München (Junioren-Bundesliga Süd/Südwest) U19

Greece

Daniel Fernandes - PAOK (Ethniki Katigoria) (1)

Stathis Kappos - Aris Saloniki (B Division) (2)

Holland

Jonathan de Guzman - Feyenoord A1 (Holland Casino Ere Divisie) (1)

Graham Ramalho - Gronigen A1 (Holland Casino Ere Divisie) (1)

Marcel de Jong - Helmond Sport (Gouden Gids Divisie) (2)

Iran

Milad Rahmati - Pegah Gilan (Iranian Second Level) (2)

Ireland

Gavin Russell - Shelbourne FC (Irish Premier League) (1) U16

Italy

Andrea Lombardo - Atalanta (Serie A) (1) Primavera Youth

Carlo Seminara - Salernitana (Serie B) (2) Allievi Regionali Youth

Rocco Placentino - Cavese Calcio (Serie C2 C) (4)

Franco Lalli - Cavese Calcio (Serie C2 C) (4)

David Masciantonio - AC Monterotondo (Serie D Girone E) (5)

Julian Uccello - Savona (Serie D Girone A) (5) on loan from AC Milan Juniores Youth

Gianluca Zavarise - Calcio Montebelluna (Serie D Girone C) (5) Juniores

Giancarlo Di Sano - Castelrigone (Eccellenza Umbria) (6) on loan from AC Perugia (Serie B) Juniores

Malta

Anthony Vassallo - Birkirkara (Malta Premier) U18

Mexico

Petro Czoli - Cruz Azul (Mexican League) (1) Youth

Carlo Rivas - Cruz Azul (Mexican League) (1) Youth

Northern Ireland

Ian Mannus - Glentoran (Irish League) (1) Reserves

Norway

Olivier Occean - Odd Grenland (Norwegian Tippeligaen) (1)

Rob Friend - Molde (Norwegian Tippeligaen) (1)

Patrice Bernier - Tromso (Norwegian Tippeligaen) (1)

Milan Kojic - Haugesund (Norwegian 2nd Division) (3)

Chris Pozniak - Haugesund (Norwegian 2nd Division) (3)

Nikola Budalic - Haugesund (Norwegian 2nd Division) (3)

Kevin De Serpa - Haugesund (Norwegian 2nd Division) (3)

Peru

Michael Abusabal - Bolognesi (Peruvian Premier League) (1) U16

Portugal

Fernando Aguiar - Penafiel (Portuguese Superliga) (1)

Michael Pereira - FC Porto (Portuguese Superliga) (1) Youth

Marco Brás - Pampilhosa (Campeonato Nacional da 2ª Divisão B - Zona Centro) (3)

Russia

Ante Jazic - SC Kuban Krasnodar (Russian 1st League) (2)

Scotland

Rhian Dodds - Kilmarnock (Scottish Premier League) (1)

Richard Hastings - Inverness CT (Scottish Premier League) (1)

Robert Giacomi - Glasgow Rangers (Scottish Premier League) (1) U19

Jacob Lensky - Glasgow Celtic (Scottish Premier League) (1) Youth

Spain

Julian de Guzman - Deportivo La Coruña (Primera Division) (1)

Sweden

Atiba Hutchison - Helsingborg (Swedish Allsvenskan) (1)

Stephen Ademolu - Trelleborg (Swedish Superettan) (2)

Tyler Hughes - Östers (Swedish Superettan) (2)

Kenny Stamatopoulos - Bodens BK (Swedish Superettan) (2)

on loan from Enkopings (Swedish Division 2) (3)

Switzerland

Dominic Imhof - FC Gossau (Swiss 1. Liga - Gruppe 3) (3)

Christoph Imhof - FC Gossau (Swiss 1. Liga - Gruppe 3) (3)

Trinidad & Tobago

James Devenish - Queens Royal College Youth

Turkey

Rasih Pala - Istanbul Buyuksehir Belediye Sport Kulubu (Turkish 2 Futbol Ligi) (2)

United States

Dwayne De Rosario - San Jose Earthquakes (Major League Soccer) (1)

Pat Onstad - San Jose Earthquakes (Major League Soccer) (1)

Felix Brillant Jr. - New England Revolution (Major League Soccer) (1)

Will Johnson - Chicago Fire (Major League Soccer) (1) Reserves

CJ Peznecker - Minnesota Thunder (USL First Division) (2)

Justin Thompson - Virginia Beach Mariners (USL First Division) (2)

Kyle Fletcher - Western Mass Pioneers (USL Second Division) (3)

Liam Girard - Boulder Rapids Reserve (Premier Development League) (4)

University of Denver Pioneers (Mountain Pacific Sports Federation)

Alim Karim - Cape Cod Crusaders (Premier Development League) (4)

Syracuse University Orange (Big East Conference)

Robert (Bobby) Bicker - West Virginia Chaos (Premier Development League) (4)

University of Charleston Golden Eagles (WVIAC Conference)

Tyler Baldock - West Virginia Chaos (Premier Development League) (4)

Carson-Newman College Eagles (South Atlantic Conference)

Wales

Jonathan Lee - Pontypridd Town F.C. (Welsh Football League Second Division) (3)

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Updated list September 26, 2005

Need Confirmation

Derek Gaudet - Boca Juniors (Argentina Primera Division) (1) Youth

Radek Pindiur - Wisla Krakow (Polish 1st League) (1) Youth Legia Warszawa

Robert Sing - Italy Serie B trials

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Unconfirmed Location

Adam Wallace - KSV Roeselare (Belgian Jupiler League) (1)

Petro Czoli - Cruz Azul (Mexican League) (1) Youth - Renato Cesarini Soccer School Argentina?

Franco Lalli - Cavese Calcio (Serie C2 C) (4)

Dylan Hughes - Jahn Regensburg (German Regionalliga Sud) (3) Wrexham trial?

Jeremy Shepherd - Unattached - Lombard-Pápa TFC (Arany Aszok Liga) (1)

Christian Picanco - China - Lombard-Pápa TFC (Arany Aszok Liga) (1)

Terry Dunfield - Bury (English League Two) (4)

Alen Marcina - Herfølge (Danish Superligaen) (1)

Tony Menezes - Zhejiang Lvcheng (Chinese Jiajidui 2004) (2)

Graham MacLean - Paulton Rovers (Southern League Division One West) (8)

Ryan Brennan - Arizona Western College Matadors (ACCAC) - OB Odense (Danish Superligaen) (1)

Jason Bent - Motherwell (Scottish Premier League) (1) Trial - Unattached

Peters Thierry Eustache - Odd Grenland (Norwegian Tippeligaen) (1) Trial - Unattached

Nílton Terroso - Lourinhanense (Portuguese 3ª Divisão Nacional Série D)

Adam Leggett - Penafiel (Portuguese Superliga) (1)

Alvin Hudson - Minnesota Thunder (USL First Division) (2)

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Terry Dunfield was reported to have been invited back to Bury pre-season training, meaning he still has a shot at a spot. I'd put him under Trial at Bury for now, if he does well it looks like they'd offer him another year's contract.

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quote:Originally posted by Blue and White Army

Gordon Chin is currently playing for the Vancouver Whitecaps Reserves in the PCSL.

Do you have a link? Or inside info, I can't find anything. Can someone post some confirmed info on the Italian boys. I've read Uccello's contract is up with Savona and he is back in the AC Milan system. What about the rest re: pro/rel?
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Carmelo Rago is still at Universidad Catolica without a contract.

Justin Farenik is living in Calgary and is set to attend Trinity Western University in the Fall along with Bruno Napoleao (U17 national).

Kerr McCloud is set to attend Syracuse University in the fall.

Waldo Dutra is living in Edmonton. He has chosen to take the education path, he will be attending NAIT in the fall.

Jaswinder Gill is still in Edmonton. He doesn't have an european passport, so I dunno how he's going to play in England.

Nik Zuniga is living in Calgary with no future plans for pro soccer. He may possibly be playing in the AMSL.

John Castrillon JR. is playing in the AMSL.

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Yes is indeed a shame that this has happened.I know here we go again,but how in the world can we have any recognition if the media is so against any Canadain soccer succes when it comes to the men.

Our world here just will not accept soccer and all these wonderfull kids with all these talents have to go somewhere else.I wonder how many sports there are that have so many of our players play in so many countries.I sure would like to know if anyone is keeping track as we are.Would be very informative and I suggest very revealing. I also recommend that we forward our list to all the Canadian media and see what they will say or react to.

It would even be more informative if we could add up the salaries these guys make and compare tham against anyone else.Maybe our soccer kids make a lot more money combined compared to other sports.

Anyone interested to provide this study.Would ne min boggling if correct.

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John, this is not the thread to rant about media (again).

quote:Originally posted by Joe MacCarthy

If you mean keep the list updated, yes.
Yes, that's what I meant.

Okay, next question: as you make changes to the master, trial/draft picks, need confirmation and unconfirmed lists within the existing posts above, would you be willing to maintain an additional list in which you note all the changes you make? For example:

June 29, 2005

- added Joe Smith to Bigcity FC (Swaziland) (3)

June 28, 2005

- removed Bob Jones from trial at AFC Craptown (Nepal) (1)

- added Bob Jones to trial at AFC Crappiertown (Nepal) (2)

etc.

This would (1) provide an archive of player movements and (2) allow readers to easily see exactly what you've done whenever you make a change.

The downside is that it's a bit more work for you.

BTW, excellent work.

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quote:Originally posted by john tv

Yes is indeed a shame that this has happened.I know here we go again,but how in the world can we have any recognition if the media is so against any Canadain soccer succes when it comes to the men.

Our world here just will not accept soccer and all these wonderfull kids with all these talents have to go somewhere else.I wonder how many sports there are that have so many of our players play in so many countries.I sure would like to know if anyone is keeping track as we are.Would be very informative and I suggest very revealing. I also recommend that we forward our list to all the Canadian media and see what they will say or react to.

It would even be more informative if we could add up the salaries these guys make and compare tham against anyone else.Maybe our soccer kids make a lot more money combined compared to other sports.

Anyone interested to provide this study.Would ne min boggling if correct.

Can't seem to get a reply to DTJ. However I was only commenting on Gian-Luca's observations.

Any thoughts about my recommendations?

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quote:Originally posted by Joe MacCarthy

What a difference a year makes! Of the 93 players listed in the July 1, 2004 MOACA

http://www.network54.com/Forum/message?forumid=4693&messageid=1088750248

63 of them are not with the same club. There are now 103 Canadians playing abroad that we can account for (excluding trials)

Joe, since you did the basic work, I wonder if you could say how many players went up (divisions, quality of club or league, even salary), which down, and which are more or less the same?

eg.

Klukowski La Louvière to Bruges: up

Stalteri Werder Bremen to Spurs: same (up in salary, down in chances for trophies in a top Euro league)

Aguiar Benfica to Penafiel: down

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quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S.

Joe, since you did the basic work, I wonder if you could say how many players went up (divisions, quality of club or league, even salary), which down, and which are more or less the same?

eg.

Klukowski La Louvière to Bruges: up

Stalteri Werder Bremen to Spurs: same (up in salary, down in chances for trophies in a top Euro league)

Aguiar Benfica to Penafiel: down

Hell, I'll give it a try. I'd say these ones are clearly or maybe even slightly up:

Belgium

Mike Klukowski - Club Brugge (Belgian Jupiler League) (1)

from La Louvière

Denmark

Marco Reda - AaB Aalborg (Danish Superligaen) (1)

from Sogndal, Norway

England

Paul Stalteri - Tottenham (English Premier League) (1)

in salary

Josh Simpson - Millwall (English The Championship) (2)

from NCAA and PDL

Simon Rayner - Lincoln City (English League Two) (4)

from Wales

Germany

Daniel Imhof - VfL Bochum (German Bundesliga 2) (2)

Kevin McKenna - Energie Cottbus (German Bundesliga 2) (2)

both tough to call from top flights in Switzerland and Scotland

Greece

Daniel Fernandes - PAOK (Ethniki Katigoria) (1)

from Jahn Regensberg and PCSL

Italy

I am really at a loss on the guys in Italy.

Norway

Rob Friend - Molde (Norwegian Tippeligaen) (1)

from Moss

Patrice Bernier - Tromso (Norwegian Tippeligaen) (1)

from Haugesund was it? Now third tier

Spain

Julian de Guzman - Deportivo La Coruña (Primera Division) (1)

from Hannover

Sweden

Kenny Stamatopoulos - Bodens BK (Swedish Superettan) (2) on loan from Enkopings (Swedish Division 2) (3)

so up

Not too many I'd say; any discrepancies on those left out? I did this only with those already abroad a year ago but on different clubs.

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quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S.

Joe, since you did the basic work, I wonder if you could say how many players went up (divisions, quality of club or league, even salary), which down, and which are more or less the same?

If we can implement the idea I posted above then figuring this out would be easy. Joe, I haven't heard from you?
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Do you have a link? Or inside info, I can't find anything. Can someone post some confirmed info on the Italian boys. I've read Uccello's contract is up with Savona and he is back in the AC Milan system. What about the rest re: pro/rel?

Uccello has returned with AC MILAN. There are high rumors that a Serie B team is looking at him for the first squad. If apporved by Milan he could be on loan to this squad but either way he will certainally be up a class or two for this coming season, without any doubt under Milans Wings.

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If we can implement the idea I posted above then figuring this out would be easy. Joe, I haven't heard from you?

I just noticed what you are talking about, I guess it was hidden in one of John's media conspiracy rants. I know it doesn't seem like it but it would be more work for me that I think might be of negligible value.

I have to update two lists (different html formatting) and also individually update players at 5 different websites. Because of the differing widths of the pages I have to update individually. I can't just post a new list each time without readjusting some for width.

While I agree with what you are advocating for the historic value from what I've read (about this list) I don't think the interest is there (disregarding how many views there's been on this thread) and I would be putting out more effort for not much return. I've posted about keeping records for posterity but no one seemed to care. At BS the most popular thread is European teams touring Canada. Yechhh.

I got the impression that this thread wasn't real important here and wasn't a sticky so I stopped updating it until I was asked to repost it again.

People are also loathe to use the search function which is what would have to be used if that movement list became big enough (search by name rather than date).

If anyone is willing to take it on I don't have a problem with that.

I'm having enough problems getting people to look at these lists and provide a little update on where people are playing. It's fine and dandy to say so and so is playing here but that's just rumour. Provide a link, or something like I was talking to Player X or his agent/mother or saw him playing last night. I am grateful for every bit of info I get but saying so and so is on trial in Italy/Germany/PCSL isn't much help. It's a lead but if you can offer more please do, everything is recorded but nothing is posted until the info is a little more solid.

Because of some other things going on in my life now I am also not spending as much time at BS (mod) as I should so more work isn't a good thing right now. Need my rest to battle the beast. :)

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