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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/3705626.html for reference.

United, FC, Real and now Dynamo are among the monickers used for the MLS clubs.

It seems that MLS is bent on subconsciously (or deliberately) branding new clubs with non-American nicknames. Though the 'date' name was quashed, that was substituted with a popular eastern European club name in Dynamo.

Which begs the question: Can the Toronto club be named anything but Toronto City? How about Boca Toronto, Toronto Athletic or Racing Club Toronto.

BTW, I'm not taking a cheap shot here, but the trend seems to be undenyable.

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quote:Originally posted by HamiltonSteelers

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/3705626.html for reference.

United, FC, Real and now Dynamo are among the monickers used for the MLS clubs.

It seems that MLS is bent on subconsciously (or deliberately) branding new clubs with non-American nicknames. Though the 'date' name was quashed, that was substituted with a popular eastern European club name in Dynamo.

Which begs the question: Can the Toronto club be named anything but Toronto City? How about Boca Toronto, Toronto Athletic or Racing Club Toronto.

BTW, I'm not taking a cheap shot here, but the trend seems to be undenyable.

Toronto City would be awesome.

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I always thought that the Dynamo name would have suited Detroit better, because of alliteration (?) ie Dynamo Detroit. However, the monikers Athletic, Wanderers, Rovers, the prefixes AS, Olympique (future Montreal?) and a date name (now that Houston has abandoned 1836) remain open.

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quote:Originally posted by HamiltonSteelers

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It seems that MLS is bent on subconsciously (or deliberately) branding new clubs with non-American nicknames. Though the 'date' name was quashed, that was substituted with a popular eastern European club name in Dynamo.

Which begs the question: Can the Toronto club be named anything but Toronto City? How about Boca Toronto, Toronto Athletic or Racing Club Toronto.

Boca Toronto would be horrible, Racing Toronto not much better and Toronto Athletic tolerable. It does suggest that Toronto City would be the front runner for a traditional soccer name that doesn't sound idiotic. Things like Bayern Toronto or Sparta Toronto have no context. Toronto AC & Toronto Internationals are possible. Or perhaps they could simply try to go with something original for a change.

Note that its Houston Dynamo, and not "Dynamo Houston". I think the name will be come pluralized in the colloquial usage (ie. "the Dynamos have taken the lead on scissor-kick volley from 50 yards out by De Rosario!").

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Those suggestions were purely for the purposes of example and by no means serious suggestions. I was trying to point out some of the 'traditional' nicknames that are yet to be covered by MLS and each of those names likely remain in glass bowl (in individual containers) sitting on Mr. Gerber's desk waiting to be pulled out with each new club (Philadelphia Red Star, Milwaukee Rangers anyone?)

I thought there were a few clubs (beyond Boca Juniors) with the Boca prefix... I could be making that up tho.

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Let's get to real reason 1836 was dropped. It has nothing to do with eastern europe.

The team which was one of the best supporter in the MLS in 2005 and moved to Houston for no aparent reason had only sold in the range of 1000 season tickets and was a total bust. The re-branding so early in a franchise history is a first for any professional sport.

Maybe "Dynamo" will help day game sales in the terrible pro soccer market that Houston is.

http://blogs.chron.com/soccer/archives/2006/01/can_1836_succee.html

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quote:Originally posted by G-Man

How about the Toronto Swallows. Named in honour of those of African decent living in Toronto.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moroka_Swallows_Football_Club

or

Toronto Bendel Insurance FC...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bendel_Insurance_FC

Africa has alot of interesting names. How about:

Canon Toronto

Toronto Sundowns

Toronto Tourists

Raja Toronto

Ismaili Toronto

Mogas '90 Toronto

Toronto Hearts of Oak

hmmmm mabey not... But the Multicultural point about Toronto is a big one. I would be OK with City, but I like Internationals too... Good marketing appeal. There are alot of translations for the word in leagues around the world.

Union has a nice ring to it too. So dont break my arm... :)

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I've always like 'dynamic' rather than the more European 'dynamo'. I think it's a really positive obviously progressive name that suits soccer teams really well. But not Houston. I didn't like the date name much, it was boring, but a least it represented something about that place. The new name isn't as place specific and is based on other teams from europe.

As for the Toronto team City seems a little ho-hum. Union is fine, but would, in my mind, neccesitate a politically left orientation because of the history of unionization, and general ideas of solidarity, unity and brotherhood. But of course I doubt every supporter would be so socialist in mind set. I maybe getting a wrong impression of the name union but from songs/pics/and other matterial on other threads, well that's the impression that I get.

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This city is one of the most diversified ones I am aware of in North America.I have seen every big one in North America and there really is no one that gets even close to our harmony. It is also a city with the highest tolerance by far and a extremely dynamic one as well.Hey we have that CN tower for a reason.That's why the word United makes an awfull lot of sense.Nothing else would even get close to the real character of this big shiny jewell.It is a very "united" city and something we should all be very proud of.

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quote: This city is one of the most diversified ones I am aware of in North America.I have seen every big one in North America and there really is no one that gets even close to our harmony. It is also a city with the highest tolerance by far and a extremely dynamic one as well.Hey we have that CN tower for a reason.That's why the word United makes an awfull lot of sense.Nothing else would even get close to the real character of this big shiny jewell.It is a very "united" city and something we should all be very proud of.

I think john tv is correct here in summing up the most important aspect of T.O.'s character, which supporters would like reflected in their team name. United does make good sense when looking at the city. But it doesn't make so much sense in terms of traditional soccer meaning. As far as I know, united teams were often so named because of the union of two teams into one, ie Newcastle United. So I think that it does seem good when taking the city into account alone,regretably, for me, it doesn't work in a soccer context.

That said I seem to find fault with names, but havn't really provided suggestions of my own. I've said I like dynamic, and would also like Metropolitan. The problem is MLS has teams with these names, Metro Stars and H Dynamo.

In another thread, think the MLSE Guy one, someone mentioned York and a military based name, somewhat relating to an Arsenal type feel, but representing an historical aspect of the city. I liked the idea of finding a more historical name and also moving away from Toronto being in the name. Unfortunately, yet again, I felt T.O. hasn't had a military importance or purpose as a city for quite some time and that it is a little mis-representitive, Halifax for example is and always has had military importance, seeing as T.O. is more of a international meeting place of diverse groups.

Still having no real suggestions, sorry, I'd like to see a unique name, using some part of the city (like the lake, or geographic area) rather then Toronto, and have it descriptive of the character of that place.

Anyone who could incorperate all of that into a name will be a far better man then I. In the end, of course, anything is better then Real.

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Dynamo: An extremely energetic and forceful person

The Eastern European name that you are thinking of is Dinamo. I would say that this name change isn't similar to Real, but is actually just a coincidence.

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quote:Originally posted by RJB

Dynamo: An extremely energetic and forceful person

The Eastern European name that you are thinking of is Dinamo. I would say that this name change isn't similar to Real, but is actually just a coincidence.

Technically yes, but "Dynamo" and "Dinamo" are typically used interchangeably when referring to these clubs (in fact, I'd say "Dynamo" is more common in English texts; eg. you get about twice as many Google hits for "Dynamo Moscow" than "Dinamo Moscow"). I would say there is much more than a coincidence here. Of all the possible names to choose, they just coincidentally chose one that has no specific connection to the city of Houston and yet is just one letter different from the proper spelling, and exactly the same as the generally-accepted spelling, of a bunch of well-known soccer clubs?
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I hadn't thought of or realised that difference so thanks RBJ for pointing it out. I still have to side with DJT though in that I think there is more then a coinsidence between the names. I also prefer 'dynamic' to 'dynamo' because as RBJ rightly points out it is an individualistic term, and of course soccer is usually considered a team game.

But that's houston's misfortune, not something I need to worry myself over.

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Back to that name busines.Can't seem to get any reaction from anyone of the local guys.It has to be Toronto United, an axample of total harmony,no racsist shi,,,t I wish you guys would consider the power of this name it is immense if properly promoted for the exact reason. A tremendous unifier an axample what this world needs and yes this name means that much. Toronto has something done that is not equaled anywhere in the US or even the major cities in Europe.

Or how about ROGERS Soccer club

afterall my cable is Rogers both in my stores as well as all the cellphones.

This dinamo stuff is not what we need.It represents the old days when under the communistic regimes these Dynomos seem to come up everytime.

Anywhy I don't expect an answer from our guys,but here we go again "I told you so"

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quote:Originally posted by DJT

Technically yes, but "Dynamo" and "Dinamo" are typically used interchangeably when referring to these clubs (in fact, I'd say "Dynamo" is more common in English texts; eg. you get about twice as many Google hits for "Dynamo Moscow" than "Dinamo Moscow"). I would say there is much more than a coincidence here. Of all the possible names to choose, they just coincidentally chose one that has no specific connection to the city of Houston and yet is just one letter different from the proper spelling, and exactly the same as the generally-accepted spelling, of a bunch of well-known soccer clubs?

Not true...electrical energy industry is big in the Houston area.

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