PSG55 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 OK, so early days I know... However, does anyone think there might be scope to resurrect the Open Canada Cup once the CPL kicks off? Would be great to have a system like the US Open Cup where CPL teams could meet provincial clubs etc. Also pads out the fixture list a bit too. Be interesting to hear other's thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopherbashi Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Why not just expand the Voyageurs Cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 I was under the impression that plans were already underway (or at least tabled) to expand the v-cup in precisely that way. Maybe not totally open - but to allow entry into the v-cup via the amateur club championship. Anything els would have to be done on a provincial or regional basis anyway to keep travel costs low for amateur teams, so I think we are already on the path to achieving the same objective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Complete Homer Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 46 minutes ago, dyslexic nam said: I was under the impression that plans were already underway (or at least tabled) to expand the v-cup in precisely that way. Maybe not totally open - but to allow entry into the v-cup via the amateur club championship. Anything els would have to be done on a provincial or regional basis anyway to keep travel costs low for amateur teams, so I think we are already on the path to achieving the same objective. I don't think there's any plans yet to include the Challenge Trophy winners, which is really the last step in making the cup "open". It's probably also the most difficult to include, since the teams would probably have to have their travel completely subsidized by the CSA and usually don't play on pitches that pro teams would consider acceptable Unless by amateur you mean L1O/PLSQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuillermoDelQuarto Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 8 hours ago, Gopherbashi said: Why not just expand the Voyageurs Cup? bingo as far as I'm concerned the V-cup should replace provincial tournaments. The higher league you're in, the later you enter, but I don't really see any reason why every single team in the country should have a chance to qualify their way in. Can you imagine the grassroots market penetration power this would have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuillermoDelQuarto Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 7 hours ago, Complete Homer said: I don't think there's any plans yet to include the Challenge Trophy winners, which is really the last step in making the cup "open". It's probably also the most difficult to include, since the teams would probably have to have their travel completely subsidized by the CSA and usually don't play on pitches that pro teams would consider acceptable Unless by amateur you mean L1O/PLSQ oh, and if a team can't afford to travel, they can try to crowdfund or they'll be disqualified. I don't think the CSA should be subsidizing anyone (nasty like canadian habit we have cough cough bombardier ) the CSA simply can't afford it. Some teams will manage to raise the money to travel and some won't. But hey, if people understand that a game is for the chance to go play a pro-squad, it makes marketing it a hell of a lot easier - even if people normally wouldn't pay to see the team play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Complete Homer Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 Just now, GuillermoDelQuarto said: oh, and if a team can't afford to travel, they can try to crowdfund or they'll be disqualified. I don't think the CSA should be subsidizing anyone (nasty like canadian habit we have cough cough bombardier ) the CSA simply can't afford it. Some teams will manage to raise the money to travel and some won't. But hey, if people understand that a game is for the chance to go play a pro-squad, it makes marketing it a hell of a lot easier - even if people normally wouldn't pay to see the team play. I am pretty sure it is fairly standard for FAs to subsidize some of the travel expenses of amateur teams. Pretty sure it happens in the US Open Cup. I don't think it would be out of the CSA's reach to subsidize a couple flights for the Challenge Trophy winners. They've got a budget of around 25 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuillermoDelQuarto Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 1 hour ago, Complete Homer said: I am pretty sure it is fairly standard for FAs to subsidize some of the travel expenses of amateur teams. Pretty sure it happens in the US Open Cup. I don't think it would be out of the CSA's reach to subsidize a couple flights for the Challenge Trophy winners. They've got a budget of around 25 million hm, did not know that. In that case, all hail Whitehorse FC valhalla here we come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpg_29 Posted May 28, 2017 Share Posted May 28, 2017 I'd like to see 3 MLS teams + CPL teams + each provincial champion team in a cup. That still only be 20 teams or so. Seeing local amateur teams take on an MLS team would bring on a whole different level of excitement. Probably grow the game at the top level in Canada.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lazlo_80 Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 If you listen to the latest "from the black hole" pod they get into why the amateur thing may still be a bit away from happening. But the semi pro leagues like league 1 Ontario coming on board is a great first step Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted May 29, 2017 Share Posted May 29, 2017 My hopefully-soon-to-net-be-a-pipe-dream Voyageurs Cup would include the existing 5 MLS, NASL and USL clubs. 8 CPL clubs and the winners of League1 Ontario, PLSQ and Challenge Cup from previous season. 16 team single knockout format. Do a live stream draw each round similar to the FA Cup and voila! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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