turbo Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 A U20 camp coming up at the end of the month in Mexico. 90% of the player pool plays NCAA. It seems that it was a big battle for many NCAA universities to release the players in this critical part of the season. Concacaf World Cup qualifications is coming up this January in Guatemala Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo Posted October 20, 2009 Author Share Posted October 20, 2009 SEPT QUÉBÉCOISES INVITÉES AU CAMP DE L'ÉQUIPE NATIONALE U20 http://www.federation-soccer.qc.ca/ Sept joueuses québécoises ont été invitées au camp de l’équipe nationale U20 qui se tiendra du 25 octobre au 1er novembre à El Paso, Texas et Juarez, Mexique. L’équipe canadienne tentera de se qualifier au cours des prochains mois pour la Coupe du Monde U20 féminine de la FIFA 2010 qui se tiendra en Allemagne du 13 juillet au 1er août 2010. Sarah Boucher Cap-Rouge / St-Augustin Ste-Brigitte-de-Laval Geneviève Richard Comètes de Laval St-Bruno-de-Montarville Laura Chénard Amiral de Québec Ste-Luce-sur-Mer Chloe Malette Lac St-Louis Lakers Roxboro Frédérique Paradis Cap-Rouge / St-Augustin Québec Bahar Sansar Comètes de Laval Longueuil Rachel Lamarre Comètes de Laval Laval Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
basics Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Here is the List for the U20 Camp Molly Allen,Sarah Boucher,Laura Chenard,Dayle Colpitts, Victoria Correa-Parsons,Elizabeth Hidebrandt. Nicole Hill,Rachel Lamarre,Chloe Malette,Alexandra Marton,Rehana Murani,Gina Pacheo,Frederique Paradis,TaylorPatterson,Sara Paul,Ranee Premji. Genevieve Richard,Jenna Richardson,Hannah Rivkin,Bahar Sansar,Alexandra Smith,Chelsea Stewart,Shannon Woeller, Shelina Zadorsky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 The camp is taking place at UTEP where Kelly Parker is an Assistance Coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbo Posted October 22, 2009 Author Share Posted October 22, 2009 U-20 Canadian National Team To Train At UTEP Link: http://utepathletics.cstv.com/sports/w-soccer/spec-rel/101909aab.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 Mexican U-20 double-header in [gasp] Juarez again: http://www.canadasoccer.com/news/viewArtical.asp?Press_ID=3858 i.e. "the most violent zone in the world outside of declared war zones" Here's the best seat in the house: http://tinyurl.com/yhwmanf One car backfire in the parking lot and I'd be up over the back stands and triple jumping that fence and 10m of Rio Grande. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 First of the two matches is today... would be nice to see some improvement out of this team because the results against the US this summer for the girls were poor to say the least. I guess with Morace implementing a new style change will take time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Well it's not really like they're someone else's players any more. These players have been scouted and selected by Morace and very few if any would play play direct in club/college. Most have probably not played it since they were young kids. Yes we got thrashed by the Americans and I wonder if that's not going to be the general trend from here on. The resource gap is widening and the Americans are going deeper into ages. Their U15 girl's team is probably better funded than our womens' team (three camps already this year: an 8-day in Florida, a 9-day in Palo Alto, and another 8-day at the Home Depot Center). The U.S. U20 program opened the year with 50 players in Florida for 8 days, and followed it up with a tournament in Portugal in March against France, Norway, Germany. Came back for a couple of months and then went back to Germany for a 9-day camp and played Germany and England again. And they'll go at least double our rate between now and the tournament. How do you get a result against an opponent with 10-times the player pool, enormous amounts more funding, resources and facilities, a year-round training climate, an educational system geared to athletics, etc? Morace was hired to keep the ball on deck and play possession. But I can guarantee you that's not the answer to the question. They do that far better than we ever will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Vic Morace was hired to keep the ball on deck and play possession. Was that all? I expect more from somebody like her who has coached other national team. Am sure she can do better than just play the ball on the ground. If that was all, why would she need two assistants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
president Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 It's easy to say to play the passing game, keep the ball on the ground, but how many of our players have the skill set to do that? You need good touches, good vision and a good understanding of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navycyr Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Unfortunately, it is not what has been valued by scouts and NTCs in the recent past. I have been told it is not what they were working on at NTCs as they put more emphasis on the physical development of athletes (at least in the Laval center. I don't know about other centers in the country, but I suspect it is the same). It will be a very long way to get there starting by changing players selection criteria and NTCs programs). True, we don't have the money other nations have to develop our national teams but it is no reason to make better use of the money we have. When you are poorer you have to be smarter and work harder than the wealthiest ones to achieve similar results. It is what life is all about ! Beauport's U16 2009 girls national clubs champions took three seasons working year round to do exactely that: terrific passing game, keeping the ball on the ground with good touches, good vision, good understanding of the game. They achieved such a result not by investing a lot of money but by working hard, good coaching putting emphasis on ball control and parent's non-monetary involvement. Skill level of the team was so good that their only two players attending NTC (one invited to the U17 national team camp) were not playing (one missing the whole tournament while the other played only the first game and a half) and their absences almost went unnoticed. It is certainly a recipe for success and I expect the same from our national teams players, coaches and management. quote:Originally posted by president It's easy to say to play the passing game, keep the ball on the ground, but how many of our players have the skill set to do that? You need good touches, good vision and a good understanding of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 quote:Originally posted by navycyr Unfortunately, it is not what has been valued by scouts and NTCs in the recent past. I have been told it is not what they were working on at NTCs as they put more emphasis on the physical development of athletes (at least in the Laval center. I don't know about other centers in the country, but I suspect it is the same). It will be a very long way to get there starting by changing players selection criteria and NTCs programs). True, we don't have the money other nations have to develop our national teams but it is no reason to make better use of the money we have. When you are poorer you have to be smarter and work harder than the wealthiest ones to achieve similar results. It is what life is all about ! Beauport's U16 2009 girls national clubs champions took three seasons working year round to do exactely that: terrific passing game, keeping the ball on the ground with good touches, good vision, good understanding of the game. They achieved such a result not by investing a lot of money but by working hard, good coaching putting emphasis on ball control and parent's non-monetary involvement. Skill level of the team was so good that their only two players attending NTC (one invited to the U17 national team camp) were not playing (one missing the whole tournament while the other played only the first game and a half) and their absences almost went unnoticed. It is certainly a recipe for success and I expect the same from our national teams players, coaches and management. The team that you mention achieved its passing skills over 3 seasons of year round work doing exactly that. That sounds reasonable and that team and its staff demonstrated it can be done. However at the National level when the coach only gets one week camp a year, to accomplish what Beauport did it will take Morace forever. How can we give her more time with the national players?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 The Mexican Federation reports that their U20 tied 3-3 with Canada at ciudad Juarez. Mexican goals were a hat trick by they scorer Charlyn Corral at minutes 35,45 & 63. No information given on the Canadian goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 29.10.2009 - CAN U20 3:3 MEX U20 Juarez, Mexico Scoring Summary: 3 3 F MEX 1 2 3 CAN 2 1 3 11 CAN - Chelsea Stewart 35 MEX - Valeria Miranda 43 CAN - Chloé Malette 47 MEX - Verónica Charlyn Corral 58 CAN - Taylor Patterson 63 MEX - Verónica Charlyn Corral CAN: Sarah Boucher (Dayle Colpitts, 58); Alexandra Smith (Rehana Murani, 46), Bahar Sansar (Lexi Marton, 46), Shannon Woeller, Shelina Zadorsky (Molly Allen, 46), Taylor Patterson (Elizabeth Hildebrandt, 71), Laura Chénard, Gina Pacheco, Chelsea Stewart, Rachel Lamarre, Sara Paul (Chloé Malette, 16) Not used: Victoria Correa-Parsons Nicole Hill Frederique Paradis Ranee Premji Geneviève Richard Jenna Richardson Hannah Rivkin The Canadian women’s U-20 team drew 3:3 with Mexico on Thursday in the first of two friendly matches between the two nations. In a back and forth match, Canada took the lead on three separate occasions only to see the Mexicans fight back. Captain Chelsea Stewart gave Canada an early lead, heading home from a Bahar Sansar free kick in the 11th minute. Mexico found their first equalizer in the 35th minute. Valeria Miranda was the first to react to a loose ball at the top of the Canadian penalty area as she beat her defender and Canadian goalkeeper Sarah Boucher to the left, and found the back of the net from a tight angle. Canada capitalized on a period of pressure on the Mexican defence to retake the lead two minutes before halftime. Chloe Malette, a first half replacement for injured forward Sara Paul, found herself with the ball in space alone in front of the Mexican net and made no mistake slotting the ball past the Mexican goalkeeper to give Canada a 2-1 lead. Mexico wasted little time evening the score after the restart, scoring from a quickly taken free kick two minutes into the second half. Canada took the lead for a third time in the 58th minute from a direct play. Taylor Patterson was quick to act on a long ball played over the Mexican defence, heading the ball on a bounce past the goalkeeper and into the back of the net. The Canadian lead was to be short lived as Mexico scored the final goal in the match in the 63rd minute. Canada failed to fully clear a Mexican corner which rolled to a Mexican attacker who it hit a first time shot through a crowd and past the Canadian keeper. Canada and Mexico will play the second match of the two game series Saturday 31 October, also in Juarez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 29.10.2009 - CAN U20 3:3 MEX U20 Juarez, Mexico Scoring Summary: 3 3 F MEX 1 2 3 CAN 2 1 3 11 CAN - Chelsea Stewart 35 MEX - Valeria Miranda 43 CAN - Chloé Malette 47 MEX - Verónica Charlyn Corral 58 CAN - Taylor Patterson 63 MEX - Verónica Charlyn Corral CAN: Sarah Boucher (Dayle Colpitts, 58); Alexandra Smith (Rehana Murani, 46), Bahar Sansar (Lexi Marton, 46), Shannon Woeller, Shelina Zadorsky (Molly Allen, 46), Taylor Patterson (Elizabeth Hildebrandt, 71), Laura Chénard, Gina Pacheco, Chelsea Stewart, Rachel Lamarre, Sara Paul (Chloé Malette, 16) Not used: Victoria Correa-Parsons Nicole Hill Frederique Paradis Ranee Premji Geneviève Richard Jenna Richardson Hannah Rivkin The Canadian women’s U-20 team drew 3:3 with Mexico on Thursday in the first of two friendly matches between the two nations. In a back and forth match, Canada took the lead on three separate occasions only to see the Mexicans fight back. Captain Chelsea Stewart gave Canada an early lead, heading home from a Bahar Sansar free kick in the 11th minute. Mexico found their first equalizer in the 35th minute. Valeria Miranda was the first to react to a loose ball at the top of the Canadian penalty area as she beat her defender and Canadian goalkeeper Sarah Boucher to the left, and found the back of the net from a tight angle. Canada capitalized on a period of pressure on the Mexican defence to retake the lead two minutes before halftime. Chloe Malette, a first half replacement for injured forward Sara Paul, found herself with the ball in space alone in front of the Mexican net and made no mistake slotting the ball past the Mexican goalkeeper to give Canada a 2-1 lead. Mexico wasted little time evening the score after the restart, scoring from a quickly taken free kick two minutes into the second half. Canada took the lead for a third time in the 58th minute from a direct play. Taylor Patterson was quick to act on a long ball played over the Mexican defence, heading the ball on a bounce past the goalkeeper and into the back of the net. The Canadian lead was to be short lived as Mexico scored the final goal in the match in the 63rd minute. Canada failed to fully clear a Mexican corner which rolled to a Mexican attacker who it hit a first time shot through a crowd and past the Canadian keeper. Canada and Mexico will play the second match of the two game series Saturday 31 October, also in Juarez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Anyone know why they brought in 4 keepers? Seems odd to have 20 field players for 16 roster spots, and 4 keepers for 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Anyone know why they brought in 4 keepers? Seems odd to have 20 field players for 16 roster spots, and 4 keepers for 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navycyr Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 For the keepers situation, they are probably unsure of whom is best qualified. Sarah Boucher, for one, of what I heard, has known highs and lows in the last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Vic Anyone know why they brought in 4 keepers? Seems odd to have 20 field players for 16 roster spots, and 4 keepers for 2. Don't forget this was a training camp at UTEP. The games with Mexico are just ancillary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Soccer teammates play against each other before biggest game of the season http://wildcat.arizona.edu/sports/soccer-teammates-play-against-each-other-before-biggest-game-of-the-season-1.835854 Smith will not only miss the game today. By playing tomorrow and then travelling after the game she will not be mentally or physically prepared to face the #1 team in the country Sunday. “We (the Canadian National team) had to stay for both games in order to ensure we would be invited back in the future,” Smith said. It's not just the Mexican federation who is working with the NCAA. The USA U20 program is in hiatus from August when camps begin until the College Cup is over in the first week of December. The NCAA is an organization that contributes tens of millions of dollars to Canadian players and trains most of these kids. How hard is it to wait a month and respect that as well? And what is the cost of the fallout from this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Come on, El Paso Texas to Tucson Arizona at just over 250 miles is hardly a transcontinental flight! Teams and players around the world travel much greater distances to away games on a regular basis. If the fortunes of a team are so dependent on a single player there is a much bigger problem with that team than a CSA national team training camp. This is undue whining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 She's one of only five players on the roster to play every game this year. She's not playing today and will play off the bench Sunday. But regardless it has nothing to do with the team depending on one player. It's a country not releasing their players like the Mexicans and Americans. The funding of Canadian kids may be whining to you but I can guarantee it's not to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 The CSA has dreams of grandeur when in fact they are just minnows. If Morace needs so much time to assess a player, we are in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 The school can always refuse to release, clearly they have not and if she was a starter for every game this season they are unlikely to shoot themselves in the foot by pulling her scholarships. They can afford to release one player from 1.5 games for national team duty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 quote:Originally posted by The Ref The CSA has dreams of grandeur when in fact they are just minnows. If Morace needs so much time to assess a player, we are in trouble. I take exception to your belittling our women's efforts on our behalf, even if you are doing it be extension. It seems as far as you are concerned the CSA is damned if it does and damned if it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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