Montry Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 Why does Canadians care so much about the MLS? With better leagues out there, why does so many Canadians Soccer fans care so much about the MLS? Are they hopping that one day a Canadian team will be allowed to play on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 It's just that the ones in TO want MLS because they've got the owners and stadium from hell. Allez l'Impact! Allez les Rouges! Allons Ultras! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 It's just that the ones in TO want MLS because they've got the owners and stadium from hell. Allez l'Impact! Allez les Rouges! Allons Ultras! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJT Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Sigma I didn't think that many people in Canada actually cared about the MLS.... Fox Sports World Canada would lead you to believe otherwise (at least that we care more about it than our own teams). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJT Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Sigma I didn't think that many people in Canada actually cared about the MLS.... Fox Sports World Canada would lead you to believe otherwise (at least that we care more about it than our own teams). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Daniel It's just that the ones in TO want MLS because they've got the owners and stadium from hell. Allez l'Impact! Allez les Rouges! Allons Ultras! Daniel, I suspect that there will come a time when Joey Saputo will look around and realize that while he is drawing over 8000 per game, many of his rivals are playing in high school stadiums and drawing around 1000 per game. In order to protect the value of his investment in the Impact and/or allow for any more growth in revenues the A-league in its current format ( ie.: minor league status) will not be the best option. IMHO, there will come a time when the fans and media in Montreal will demand more from the team in the form of a product. especially if the Impact start to win titles. Minor league sports in canda is very cyclical in Canada. I cite the Ottawa Lynx as an example. Plus we have already heard rumblings in the past from the Mtl ownership group about the quality of operations in other A-league markets. Why should this change. Although, ceding power in teh complex MLS ownership structure could be a stumbling block for Montreal and MLS. Right now, you could make a case the that Impact have the best possibilities of excelling within a high calibre league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montry Posted July 21, 2003 Author Share Posted July 21, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Free kick Why should this change. Although, ceding power in teh complex MLS ownership structure could be a stumbling block for Montreal and MLS. Right now, you could make a case the that Impact have the best possibilities of excelling within a high calibre league. The MLS isnt a high calibre league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted July 21, 2003 Share Posted July 21, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Montry The MLS isnt a high calibre league. And the A-league is higher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franky Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 if the MLS isn't gaining ground, then how far did they make it in the last World Cup in Korea/Japan. Don't forget the handball on the German goal line, hmmm, what could have been USA's destiny from that point????? Also, i never knew Canadians cared soo much about the MLS, aside from certain Canaidans playing down there, two years ago DeRoasrio scored the winning goal for San Jose in a thrilling finish. PS - Daniel, if Joey Saputo figures a way into the MLS ownership rules and offers Montreal the opportunity to play in the MLS, i guarantee, you guys will be all excited about it. However, you got one thing right, the Lynx have the most unorthodox owners and the worst stadium to play out of, that i cannot argue with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarnCherry Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Montry Why does Canadians care so much about the MLS? With better leagues out there, why does so many Canadians Soccer fans care so much about the MLS? Are they hopping that one day a Canadian team will be allowed to play on it? Because they are gay. "As nothing in this life that I've been trying could equal or surpass the art of dying"-George Harrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_Yank Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 Montry, When did MLS claim to be a world class league? Define "quality league". The level of play in MLS has grown considerably since 1996. It's good enough that it produced the bulk of a world cup quarter finalist. Most of the games are entertaining and there are a lot of talented players. Especially young players. It's the 2nd best in the region with a lot of potential to grow. I haven't noticed an influx of Canadians at MLS matches, nor on MLS internet sites. The majority of fans at MLS matches are hispanics, suburban families, and 20 something Gen Xers. "Try not, do. Do or do not. There is no try" - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montry Posted July 22, 2003 Author Share Posted July 22, 2003 Crazy_Yank, Succes at WC and league level are total different topics. Does Korea have the 4 best league in the world? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montry Posted July 22, 2003 Author Share Posted July 22, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Free kick And the A-league is higher? No, but it have Canadians teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_Yank Posted July 22, 2003 Share Posted July 22, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Montry Crazy_Yank, Succes at WC and league level are total different topics. Does Korea have the 4 best league in the world? No, but unlike the A-league, it can produce players who can compete at the international level. "Try not, do. Do or do not. There is no try" - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontosupport Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 quote:quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by Montry Why does Canadians care so much about the MLS? With better leagues out there, why does so many Canadians Soccer fans care so much about the MLS? Are they hopping that one day a Canadian team will be allowed to play on it? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Because they are gay. Or perhaps they live in the real world. They may be gay as well, but I'm not sure about that. Let's take a poll. Are you: a) Pro MLS and straight. Pro MLS and gay. c) Anti MLS and straight. d) Anti MLS and gay. e) Pro CPSL, a rampant bi-crazed nympho and into knitting, long walks on the beach and Norwegian films of the 1980s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franky Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 Ohhhh! Ohhhhh! Ohhhhh!!! I'll take e) for $1000 please.[)] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Rollins1555362254 Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 quote:[ The MLS isnt a high calibre league. It's higher than what we currently have. I HATE the fact I had to sign up for this forum. HATE. HATE. HATE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarnCherry Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 quote:Originally posted by torontosupport Or perhaps they live in the real world. They may be gay as well, but I'm not sure about that. Let's take a poll. Are you: a) Pro MLS and straight. Pro MLS and gay. c) Anti MLS and straight. d) Anti MLS and gay. e) Pro CPSL, a rampant bi-crazed nympho and into knitting, long walks on the beach and Norwegian films of the 1980s. Glad to see that my flippant response to the question didn't get taken seriously. I'm inclined to think that they are bi and are into the the homo-erotic situations of WWE wrestling. "As nothing in this life that I've been trying could equal or surpass the art of dying"-George Harrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 Well I like MLS and I think it's a quality league. Certainly not the best, but getting better and entertaining enough (though this year has disappointed me). Why did I get into it? Well in 96 it was MLS, the EPL and well that was about all I could get on TV. I had EPL on TSN (I think it was still on TSN) and I could go catch MLS games on ESPN and ESPN2. I'd heard of most of the players and as a Canadian soccer fan it was far more relevant to see how Martin Machon was getting on than it was to see the EPL. Maybe if FSWC, TV5 and TLN were available to me when MLS started I'd be too busy watching Italian, French, Spanish, Scottish soccer, but they weren't and now I'm hooked I have a favourite team I've struggled with four eight years and I enjoy watching young players from around CONCACAF play in a decent league. No more, no less. cheers, matthew The car is on fire and there is no driver at the wheel and the sewers are all muddied with a thousand lonely suicides. A dark wind blows. The government is corrupt and we are all so many drunks with the radio on and the curtains drawn. We’re trapped in the belly of this horrible machine and the machine is bleeding to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torontosupport Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 quote:I'm inclined to think that they are bi and are into the the homo-erotic situations of WWE wrestling. You're probably right, I should have listed that as options "f". The homo-erotic situations of WWE wrestling are hard to ignore, after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 That's the problem, A-League is minor league, but those same cities (and a few more) in a CSL would not be... Calgary and Hamilton is like "Middletown, USA", but we have so few cities that it's more important within a Canadian context. I think we'd see Saputo at the forefront of a proper Canadian league before MLS... MLS can and would treat the Canadian teams worse than the others. Allez l'Impact! Allez les Rouges! Allons Ultras! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ed Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 My question is "Why do Canadians care so much about Man U and Celtic". I'd rather have seen either of them vs an MLS team. Free the banana cream 3! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarnCherry Posted July 23, 2003 Share Posted July 23, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Ed My question is "Why do Canadians care so much about Man U and Celtic". I'd rather have seen either of them vs an MLS team. Free the banana cream 3! So would I. "As nothing in this life that I've been trying could equal or surpass the art of dying"-George Harrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desigol Posted July 25, 2003 Share Posted July 25, 2003 I would like to see more Canadians in the MLS. Maybe Belotte should have considered MLS after his spell in Sweden didn't work out. You don't win friends with salad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted July 26, 2003 Share Posted July 26, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Daniel That's the problem, A-League is minor league, but those same cities (and a few more) in a CSL would not be... Calgary and Hamilton is like "Middletown, USA", but we have so few cities that it's more important within a Canadian context. I think we'd see Saputo at the forefront of a proper Canadian league before MLS... MLS can and would treat the Canadian teams worse than the others. Allez l'Impact! Allez les Rouges! Allons Ultras! Well, here's to hoping your right, brother! Had a nice, self-healing, rant earlier in the year after Sharpe's state of the union address and the CSA's grand scheme involving the Canadian A-League clubs, expansion, and a division of our "own" as it were. Quickly realised that no new Canadian League well ever get anywhere without the existing A-League members on board, and that Sharpe and company knew that. Now if the CSA wants to go along with whatever collaberators it can find in using the A-League for their own fell purposes untell the time is right I say God Bless Them. Saputo can tell those control freaks in MSL to piss off. Bring back the Canadian Soccer League! Or Football Union, or whatever you want to call it! It's been too damned long since we've got to kick some eastern arse in a bit of footy![}] "Minority of one" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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