alberta white Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 http://nycosmos.com/news/new-york-cosmos-propose-world-class-professional-soccer-stadium-and-multi-use-development-belmo As with their commencing play during the second half of the season, the announcement of a planning application at Belmont Park again (IMO) reinforces the premis that the Cosmos are fighting tooth and nail with the MLS, for the hearts and minds of soccer fans in the big apple; Perhaps with the Cosmos currently one step ahead? Mind you, It does helps if you have a Sheik in the Shaddows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberta white Posted January 16, 2013 Author Share Posted January 16, 2013 Note that the SI article firmly indicates that the proposal is not, according to the O'brian, for MLS consumption. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/news/20130116/new-york-cosmos-stadium/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msilverstein47 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I'm from New York, this will never happen by 2016 and it's extremely unlikey to ever happen in my lifetime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberta white Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 Well it fufils an RFP request and the fundings be noted to be Private, and in place.... But as you say until shovels start digging up dirt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ClaytonA Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 http://nasn.tv/2013/erik-stover-on-the-best-soccer-show/ Interesting podcast with the Cosmos' COO. They're expressing no intention to go MLS - implied because of the brand they feel the franchise system won't work for them. He talks about helping to grow the league, being the best team in the US, and it being a process where they won't dominate from the first kick in anger. He says the RFP was at least 2 years too early for the club, but given it was out there, it was an opportunity they couldn't pass up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I wonder if the Cosmos can make the NASL compete against MLS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 If they want to compete with NYRB, it would probably make sense to try to get that stadium a little closer to Manhattan. That's going to take you at least an hour by transit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberta white Posted April 4, 2013 Author Share Posted April 4, 2013 I think the target Audience is not neccessarily coming from Manhatten but Queens village and Elmont etc. If you do have the hots for the Cosmos and live Central parkway then you'll be "travelling" like Man United fans do. They are starting up in Hofsta stadium 7 miles away. So it looks as if there is an intention to be the team from long Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 I think the target Audience is not neccessarily coming from Manhatten but Queens village and Elmont etc. If you do have the hots for the Cosmos and live Central parkway then you'll be "travelling" like Man United fans do. They are starting up in Hofsta stadium 7 miles away. So it looks as if there is an intention to be the team from long Island. That stadium would sure help in that regard. It is something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msilverstein47 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/06/26/cosmos-pushing-hard-for-25000-seat-stadium-near-belmont-park/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberta white Posted June 27, 2013 Author Share Posted June 27, 2013 http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/06/26/cosmos-pushing-hard-for-25000-seat-stadium-near-belmont-park/ Note the Opposition in this one; wonder if it's Don Garber going door to door with a clip board and a dodgy local accent? Actually joking apart it would be interesting to see how strong it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Surely they can throw a supermarket into the deal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msilverstein47 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Dandy Don actually went to the same University as I did...no I never knew him. Anyway with the planned seating at 25K...they are just insane and it's sure to rile up the locals...but it's going to be a fun battle to watch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberta white Posted June 27, 2013 Author Share Posted June 27, 2013 Surely they can throw a supermarket into the deal... I think retail is part of the overall plan, whether it includes something as large as a Safeway local (10K feet) i'm not sure about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberta white Posted June 27, 2013 Author Share Posted June 27, 2013 Dandy Don actually went to the same University as I did...no I never knew him. Anyway with the planned seating at 25K...they are just insane and it's sure to rile up the locals...but it's going to be a fun battle to watch... If, in the summer season Hofstra has about 5K turning up on a regular basis, then yes 25K will seem like utter folly. If however, they pack it out for every game then 25K may not seem that far off the mark. In a couple of months well have what HG NELSON (Australia's Parody commentator) calls "Sport code#2: THE REALITY CHECK". All that been said, considering that the USOC is a seeded competition, what are the chances of a COSMOS/ NYCFC match up within a couple of years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msilverstein47 Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 If, in the summer season Hofstra has about 5K turning up on a regular basis, then yes 25K will seem like utter folly. If however, they pack it out for every game then 25K may not seem that far off the mark. In a couple of months well have what HG NELSON (Australia's Parody commentator) calls "Sport code#2: THE REALITY CHECK". All that been said, considering that the USOC is a seeded competition, what are the chances of a COSMOS/ NYCFC match up within a couple of years? way less than 1% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 If, in the summer season Hofstra has about 5K turning up on a regular basis, then yes 25K will seem like utter folly. If however, they pack it out for every game then 25K may not seem that far off the mark. I don't think it's the end of the world if they get 5K initially. The stadium they are planning is a big thing here. It's a destination in it self. If this was the case for sporting KC, they should have only built a 10 k stadium, if anything at all. When they finally get their stadium built, the Cosmos need to poach the best non-DP talent from MLS. They have to market the team two ways, by saying "we have an awesome stadium," and "come see the best professional soccer team in either the USA or Canada." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msilverstein47 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 http://www.bigapplesoccer.com/teams/cosmos2.php?article_id=35906 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msilverstein47 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 http://www.bigapplesoccer.com/teams/cosmos2.php?article_id=38279 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msilverstein47 Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 and milk that has turned is still sour: http://www.bigapplesoccer.com/teams/cosmos2.php?article_id=44047 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msilverstein47 Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 getting close to considering the Belmont Racetrack soccer stadium project dead: Cosmos ended a two-game losing streak but drew only 2,419 fans to Shuart Stadium. The Cosmos, who averaged 4,984 fans for home games in 2015, have averaged 3,733 for their first three home games of the 2016 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDNFootballer Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 11 hours ago, msilverstein47 said: getting close to considering the Belmont Racetrack soccer stadium project dead: Cosmos ended a two-game losing streak but drew only 2,419 fans to Shuart Stadium. The Cosmos, who averaged 4,984 fans for home games in 2015, have averaged 3,733 for their first three home games of the 2016 season. NY Cosmos averaged 5062 in 2015 : http://www.kenn.com/the_blog/?p=7562 Stadium project bid at Belmont stands on its own, Cosmos have a poor temporary stadium in a terrible area of town at Hofstra stadium, very hard for fans to get to transit wise and their attendance there shouldn't affect the bid. They'll draw much better at their own SSS in a better location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDNFootballer Posted May 16, 2016 Share Posted May 16, 2016 NY Cosmos Eric Stover talks Belmont Stadium bid on TV: https://youtu.be/ni6pYcnlo2Y Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msilverstein47 Posted June 1, 2016 Share Posted June 1, 2016 this is a pretty good primer about the stadium dilemma: http://midfieldpress.com/2016/05/31/it-is-time-for-the-cosmos-to-get-over-the-belmont-blues/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msilverstein47 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 case made for a move to Brooklyn: http://www.thisiscosmoscountry.com/opinion/whether-belmont-or-plan-b-cosmos-need-brooklyn-bandage-now/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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