Vic Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Sorry just catching up. We are really only talking about a limited subset, perhaps a handful of players in the WPS. And I'm pretty sure it was probably at least that in WUSA for the first half of Pellerud's tenure. After WUSA went under the Swedish league filled the vacuum and became the place to play and many players from around the globe migrated there who didn't have high-quality domestic options available. Nonen and Latham aren't schoolkids who never played outside college. WUSA was the best professional league on the planet, with great players from all over the world. One was selected to the World All-Star team and the other was rookie-of-the-year. Imagine that on the Men's side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 pelerud had residency he didnt need wps to train his players for him he had full control over hw his players apprach the game according to him and hw the game is played as far as tactics n style the residency opportunity the way it was set up was like a club day to day training. skill wise the players didnt benefit coz he didnt nt beleive skill and flair was required. only brute force and pace. leroux is a great example of where skill n pace was nt a combination he was looking for or would bother with. he made residency a waste with power training and kick n run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 In my opinion the performance of the two coaches in question has little to do with the defunct WUSA or the upcoming WPS. It has a lot to do with Morace being a Coach and Pellerud being an obsolete trainer with questionable ethics. The two couldn't be more different. What our girls accomplished was due to their ability and not due to Pellerud intimidation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldnav Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 If "Residence" was so bad, why did the USA team waste all their time in "Residence" in California, only to win GOLD?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 quote:Originally posted by The Ref In my opinion the performance of the two coaches in question has little to do with the defunct WUSA or the upcoming WPS. It has a lot to do with Morace being a Coach and Pellerud being an obsolete trainer with questionable ethics. The two couldn't be more different. What our girls accomplished was due to their ability and not due to Pellerud intimidation. I don't think anybody is disputing that these two coaches have a different approach to the game and different coaching styles. The residency was modelled on that setup by US Soccer and filled a big gap after WUSA went bankrupt. As for WPS versus the Swedish leagues, it certainly is easier having your players in a high level league at least on the same continent rather than half a world away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sj Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 residency in itself can yield lots of benefits its what is being taught and stress in the residency itself. the usa was total football with lots of emphasis on creativity skills and cohesion. it allows the coach to bring his style and phylosophy days in days out. and pelerud phylosophy and style were outdated for the modern era. wasted the opprotunity to give our program a basic solid foundation on build on. had Ian bridge stayed on as the youth coach its would have served very little since his mentor was pelerud. as technical director holger was right when he questioned pelerud approach that in the long run its years wasted as the style would serve nothing the development of future national teams to compete against the top 5 nations. with a new approach in half the time pelerud had Morace will show nj has her team play consistantly a better way to excite fans and win with style not pre historic a la vikings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trillium Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Joe MacCarthy I thought this was great. Our new national coach was once the best female player on the planet. Her only regret was not winning the Golden Ball as the world's top player. But that's only because it didn't exist when she played. That's where Canada captain Christine Sinclair comes in. She's Canada's best, according to Morace, and she has an appetite to learn. "My goal is for her to win the Golden Ball," she said. "If she wins it, it will be like me winning it." That's the stuff this country has been missing...shoot for the stars and you'll reach the sky. If she can get Sinclair to have proper balance and posture, and then teach her to dribble and shoot from both feet, she is a miracle worker. One point .. Morace has fallen into, much like Pelerud did in his early days... she talks of no female coaches, but she has no base to to make the comment ... except what she is hearing from the CSA and provincials.. she will need to shake her head and go out and find women who coach and then figure out how to get them as club head coaches etc. Morace has not yet grasped the form of the old boys network here, hopefully she soon will, its going to be vital to her success, especially when the attacks from BC begin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Something I found a little odd although imagine it was just 'Lost in Translation': quote:"For young female players, the models must be women players, not men. It's wrong for men to be the coaches," she said. Nurturing that passion Morace's way demands a change in coaching philosophy. And there are several facets to that. Canada's predominant playing strategy has focused on the long ball. Short passing, possession and the intricacies of the game have not been encouraged at the top level. "Boring" is how Morace describes that, and with boring comes the chance that players will fall out of love with the game. Canada's registered players are predominantly under 13. Maybe coaching techniques are why so many girls drop out as they become teenagers, she suggests. "Watch the very best players on TV," she said. "For us it is beautiful to see. Cristiano Ronaldo or Ibrahimovic ... they have power, power control, technique and creativity." The last time I checked, Ronaldo and Ibrahimovic were men. That would have worked so much better with Marta and Cristiane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Trillium If she can get Sinclair to have proper balance and posture, and then teach her to dribble and shoot from both feet, she is a miracle worker. You know what they say, it is hard to teach new tricks to an old dog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Little pit stop to celebrate some of the beauty of the women's game: 1) Show me the Mummy! http://www.business24-7.ae/articles/2009/3/pages/03212009_2f903695c5374e0c9921cdb03db60aa0.aspx and this absolutely heartwarming piece of genius (via Richard's news feed) titled: "The Love of the Game: a cook, cleaner, mother...and an attacking midfielder.": 2) http://www.bcsoccerweb.com/articles-march/fifa-mar-23-photographer.htm A poster of that should be sent to every registered girl in Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Ault Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Trillium she talks of no female coaches, but she has no base to to make the comment ... Trillium surely you jest - there may not be NO female coaches but they are few and far between and the various SA's have done little if anything to correct or alleviate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VPjr Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 quote:Originally posted by Vic Something I found a little odd although imagine it was just 'Lost in Translation': The last time I checked, Ronaldo and Ibrahimovic were men. That would have worked so much better with Marta and Cristiane. When she spoke of female role models, she was talking about the lack of female mentor coaches in the system that are available to our youth elite players on a day to day basis. The old boys club has made no effort to promote women but I suspect that will change. Trillium, I think you might be surprised how aware she is of the current situation when it comes to female coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 quote:"Canada's registered players are predominantly under 13. Maybe coaching techniques are why so many girls drop out as they become teenagers, she suggests." Puberty and maturation brings the onset of a completely different set of choices and priorities for the teenage girl. It is no longer Mom and Dad deciding your schedule and driving you it becomes your own choice. Jobs, school, social circles and relationships, etc. The only ones who remain in soccer after that are the ones who truly love the game. And I would imagine our female particpation rate after 13 is considerably higher than most countries in the world, including Italy. If someone wants to be a mathematician, it doesn't matter if your teacher is a man or a woman, only that they are the best person at guiding you towards your goal. Yes, the tie goes to gender, but it's rarely a tie. Morace walked right into Pellerud's communication dysfunctionality which paved the road for a woman being appointed. But she wasn't hired because she was a woman. She was hired because she was seen as the best person to guide our players and team - technically, socially and psychologically. And much more importantly, not just for soccer players but also mathematicians, as Morace has alluded to - what girls need is PLAYER role models. Decades ago Mia Hamm and Charmaine Hooper changed an entire generation. No one was inspired by or remembers who coached them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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