coppercanuck Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 I just looked up some quick data, being the geek that I am. The numbers are surprising. What would you do if you were commish? Remember your goal is to hit all the big TV markets. The data my be flawed...the boundries definitions may be different in the 2 countries. 2005(usa)/2006(can) New York -8,143,197 MLS Toronto -5,113,149 MLS Los Angeles -3,844,829 MLS x2 Montréal -3,635,571 USL D1 Chicago -2,842,518 MLS Vancouver -2,116,581 USL D1 Houston -2,016,582 MLS Philadelphia -1,463,281 Phoenix -1,461,575 San Antonio -1,256,509 San Diego -1,255,540 Dallas -1,213,825 MLS Ottawa -1,130,761 Calgary -1,079,310 Edmonton -1,034,945 San Jose -912,332 MLS? Detroit -886,671 Indianapolis -784,118 Jacksonville -782,623 San Francisco -739,426 USL D1 Columbus -730,657 MLS Québec -715,515 Winnipeg -694,668 Hamilton -692,911 Austin -690,252 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Hate to be the census guy, but metro SF is at least twice a big as Vancouver. I think you're comparing metros in Canada to city proper in the USA. Given the size of the suburbs in most US cities, that's an empirical problem. Carson, CA, home of the Galaxy and Chivas, is not in your sample. But Whitecaps should get into MLS cause Vancouver is a top 5 soccer market in North America and there's a great owner and partner for MLS here. That should be all they need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splatypus Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Lots of metro areas missing, Miami, Baltimore, Washington DC, Boston... Population is hardly the only consideration, anyone who follows the NHL knows that Canadian teams do not draw in American cities. I don't even know that we have enough quality players to meet the domestic (Canadian) player quotas for 2 more MLS teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpopulistfutebol Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Whoa. Only 40,000 or so more people in Columbus then Winnipeg. Amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Former Champ Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 We have 40,000 homeless people in Calgary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elias Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Um, "flawed"? The war in Iraq is "flawed" compared to those numbers. As for "hitting all the big tv markets". See: League, National Hockey. It's under F for failure. MLS needs to find cities where they will get 20 000 people in the stands. The NBA became successful because they went into secondary markets like Utah, Portland, San Antonio, where, for the most part, they were the only pro game in town. MLS needs to forget about these fantasies like a 2nd NYC team and focus on cities like Rochester which are big enough to support MLS teams, and at the same time where the MLS team is likely to be the number 1 team in town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarrek Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Los Angeles Metro is nearly 13,000,000 ... Twice the size of Toronto. Hence it has two teams New York Metro is nearly 19,000,000 ... Chicago Metro is nearly 10,000,000 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpopulistfutebol Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 San Diego would be a good place for MLS expansion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calgary Boomer Posted June 23, 2007 Share Posted June 23, 2007 quote:Originally posted by coppercanuck Remember your goal is to hit all the big TV markets. That is ABSOLUTELY WRONG! How has getting into the so called "Big TV Markets" helped the NHL? They need to get to the best soccer markets, and if Don Garber is worth his chops, he'll do just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aljarov Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 City populations are misleading. You need to consider the MSA (metro area). That changes these numbers hugely.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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