Canada possible bid for 2018 World Cup?

[mrpopulistfutebol]

I just read this on Wikipedia for kicks. I was looking about the 2014 World Cup, which Brazil will probably get. Then I decided to look up the 2018 World Cup, to see what potential countries might be interested in hosting the tournament.

Low and behold Canada's name was mentioned.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_FIFA_World_Cup

Now, while I support possibly if this ever came to fruition. I just dont know how realistic it will be considering that:

A) The 2014 World Cup will be hosted in South America likely. Because of that since that a world cup previous to the 2018 WC (2014) will have been hosted by a country in the same hemisphere, would it be possible that Canada could get it?

Isnt FIFA scrapping the idea of roatating continents hosting the World Cup after the 2014 edition?

C) If B is correct, The competition might be tough, considering that possible bids from Australia and England Spain and Mexico could come to fruition.

I definately like us to see Canada put in a bid for 2018, but I think their could be some massive obstacles to come over.

[TOareaFan]

quote:Originally posted by mrpopulistfutebol

I definately like us to see Canada put in a bid for 2018, but I think their could be some massive obstacles to come over.

Not the least of which would be stadia! It seems that you need about 8 stadiums that each hold over 40k and a couple of those have to be in the 65 - 80k range.

Canada has only 4 stadia of over 40k (Rogers Centre, BC Place, Big O and Commonwealth). By 2018 the youngest of those will be almost 30 years old. None of them seem up to snuff for a WC final.

So, could we go into a WC bid without a massive capital/stadia improvement budget? Probably not....so where would that coin come from?

[River City]

Pipe can do it! After all, he single handedly brought in MLS to Toronto...

[Robert]

quote:Originally posted by River City

Pipe can do it! After all, he single handedly brought in MLS to Toronto...

That's funny!

[Guest irishwhisper]

quote:Originally posted by River City

Pipe can do it! After all, he single handedly brought in MLS to Toronto...

Is there going to be an MLS team in Toronto?? That would be deadly if there was.

I would like to see Canada hosting a World Cup but I dont think yas deserve it simply cos football isnt big in Canada. Canada is a great country and Id love to see football get big there but I just cant see it happening.

But yas deserve to host a World Cup alot more than South Africa do

[N-A]

Sorry to bring up an old subject. I just saw an article on the BBC and thought it was an interesting read.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/7061334.stm

Fifa Welcomes A England 2018 bid

Note that towards the end of the article Blatter says

England will not be the only candidate.

China

Australia

United States

Mexico

and perhaps Canada

[SCF08]

Holland is also applying..[8D]

[amacpher]

I don't understand why countries with absolutely no chance of getting elected as host even bother to apply. I hope they are not actually wasting any money on this. Or is that list of countries in that BBC article merely some candidates that FIFA have in mind, but who haven't reciprocated with any interest themselves yet? I'm not sure which. But it seems like nothing more than a puppet show by either FIFA or by those countries with no hope whatsoever of hosting in 2018 (or both)

China? Canada? And especially Holland (or were you joking)?? Not gonna happen!

Maybe Uruguay should apply for 2022! Do I hear Easter Island?

[SCF08]

quote:Originally posted by amacpher

I don't understand why countries with absolutely no chance of getting elected as host even bother to apply. I hope they are not actually wasting any money on this. Or is that list of countries in that BBC article merely some candidates that FIFA have in mind, but who haven't reciprocated with any interest themselves yet? I'm not sure which. But it seems like nothing more than a puppet show by either FIFA or by those countries with no hope whatsoever of hosting in 2018 (or both)

China? Canada? And especially Holland (or were you joking)?? Not gonna happen!

Maybe Uruguay should apply for 2022! Do I hear Easter Island?

No , I wasnt joking. Why do you think Holland hasnt got a chance ?? Thats what everyone thought of Euro2000 as well and that was a big succes.

My team Feyenoord is going to build a new 75k+ stadium by then and AZ (Alkmaar) and Groningen can expand their stadium to at least 45k (AZ might go further). And then there is Amsterdam 52k and Eindhoven 35k.

Thats 5 good stadiums already. And then there are possibilities for Utrecht to get a new stadium and maybe Arnhem , Heerenveen and Enschede to join in as a smaller size stadium (around 25k)

Holland is a great tourist country loved by almost everyone with excellent public transportation and we have never hosted a World Cup before.

We also hosted extrmely succesfull Youth World Cup in 2005 and Youth Euro Championship in 2007.

[amacpher]

quote:Originally posted by SCF08

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No , I wasnt joking. Why do you think Holland hasnt got a chance ?? Thats what everyone thought of Euro2000 as well and that was a big succes.

You co-hosted Euro 2000.

Holland might be elected to co-host a World Cup someday (they'll never host one by themselves), but that day isn't right after Germany hosted a world cup.

[SCF08]

quote:Originally posted by amacpher

You co-hosted Euro 2000.

Holland might be elected to co-host a World Cup someday (they'll never host one by themselves), but that day isn't right after Germany hosted a world cup.

Well , isnt co-hosting hosting..?? We only needed the Belgians because we didnt have enough stadiums. That's not the case anymore.

Why dont you think Holland can do it though...?

[amacpher]

quote:Originally posted by SCF08

Well , isnt co-hosting hosting..??

Yes, but you can't really use a successful co-hosting of the Euros as evidence that they could pull-off a World Cup by themselves!

quote:

Why dont you think Holland can do it though...?

The same reason I don't think Uruguay will host the 100th anniversary of the World Cup in 2030: Too small!

I can see both co-hosting a world cup though.

[The Ref]

I read somewhere in the Fifa website that Blatter is proposing to his Executive that bids for the next WC be open bids. That sounds good to me.

[terpfan68]

The precedent for sharing a WC was established with Japan and Korea and that seemed to work well considering that there are still a lot of very hard feeling concerning Japan occupying Korea during WWII. Canada is just too small to host the men's WC. What would be the possibility of the U.S. and Canada "sharing" the WC? Perhaps Canada could "host" two of the 8 groups and perhaps the 3rd place game. Soccer is not yet big enough for the government to throw in massive amounts of money and if they did then it would probably cost them more votes than it would gain. Otherwise we might just need to keep our dreams small and go all out for a women's WC sometime before 2020.

If we want to go to some games we should hope that the U.S. gets it. That will also help us qualify.

(sorry--typing skills not so hot this early)

[amacpher]

I hope the US never gets it again. 1994 -- worst World Cup ever!!

And I don't know how much easier it will be for Canadians to get tickets. Anyone who has tried to get tickets for Germany '06 and Austria/Swisse '08 knows that its only residents of the host countries who have a decent chance at obtaining tickets. For the rest its a lottery and the odds are not good.

I think places like South Africa offer people a better chance at tickets.

[terpfan68]

The stadia in the US are very large and you probably will be able to get tickets to at least some of the matches. Most hold more than 80 000 and if you use University stadia then you could go over 100 000 in some cases. If Fifa wanted a big payday then the US is the place.You might be able to get friends in the US to buy them for you unless they print names and id information on the tickets like they did in Germany.

[Toronto Ruffrider]

I suspect this will affect Canada's chances of hosting the 2018 World Cup:

http://www.fifa.com/aboutfifa/federation/administration/releases/newsid=625122.html#rotation+ends+2018

Rotation ends in 2018

As from 2018, the hosting of the FIFA World Cup™ will cease to be rotated. Under the chairmanship of President Joseph S. Blatter, the FIFA Executive Committee today - 29 October 2007 - unanimously passed a decision to abandon the principle (originally introduced in the year 2000) of rotating the men's World Cup from continent to continent. The confederations whose associations have hosted the two preceding World Cups will not be eligible to bid, however. Consequently, all the associations from Asia, North and Central America and the Caribbean, Oceania and Europe may bid for the 2018 FIFA World Cup™.

One of the reasons for changing the rotation principle was the fact that only one candidate - Brazil - is still in contention for the 2014 FIFA World Cup that is due to be awarded tomorrow, Tuesday, 30 October 2007. The executive stated explicitly that eligibility to host the World Cup should no longer be restricted to the rotation principle as it was also in FIFA's interests to maintain true competition among several candidates. The provision regarding the exclusion of bids from associations belonging to the two previous host confederations will require an amendment to the FIFA Statutes at the 2008 FIFA Congress.

"The rotation principle has served its purpose and has enabled us to award our most prestigious competition to Africa for the first time and, depending on tomorrow's decision, to South America for the first time in many years," commented Blatter.

"Since several associations from different confederations have already declared their interest in bidding, the FIFA executive came to the conclusion that as from 2018 the bidding procedure should once again be open to all continents, except those parts of the world that have hosted the two previous tournaments."

In the medium term, however, FIFA's sights are set on the 2010 FIFA World Cup in South Africa. The next step along the way will be the preliminary draw in Durban on 25 November 2007. The day before, the match schedule for the final competition will be presented to the FIFA organising committee for approval.

In Africa, the World Cup preliminary competition will also serve as the qualifying competition for the Africa Cup of Nations 2010. After consulting all of the confederations, additional international match dates were approved for 2008, in accordance with the international match calendar.

Furthermore, the question of ticket sales for South Africa 2010 was discussed. It is intended that the associations qualified to take part will now be allocated 12% (previously 8%) of purchasable tickets for the group matches of the finals whereas the allocation for the knockout stages will remain at 8%. Since the 2006 FIFA World Cup, FIFA has reassumed responsibility for ticket sales and will establish a company named "2010 FIFA World Cup Ticketing Ltd" to this end. In addition, on account of the distances involved, a programme for tour operators will be launched to enable certified and authorised companies to offer combined ticket and travel package deals.

Regarding other items, at the request of the Associations Committee, the Kuwait Football Association has been suspended with immediate effect from all international football activities until further notice on account of government interference in the association's affairs and for infringing its own statutes as well as for failing to comply with a decision passed by the FIFA Executive Committee. The associations of Iran, Peru and Central African Republic may also be suspended (cf. separate announcement) if their situations do not return to normal.

In accordance with various decisions passed by the FIFA Congress in Zurich on 30 and 31 May 2007, the FIFA executive approved a number of regulations, including the Club Licensing Regulations, the revised Players' Agents Regulations and amendments to the Regulations for the Status and Transfer of Players. The new provisions include jurisprudence from previous cases with regard to players' status and a new prohibition on third-party influence on transfers.

Moreover, a new article in the Regulations Governing the Application of the FIFA Statutes is intended to ensure that clubs may only qualify for a higher division on sporting merit so as to prevent a recurrence of cases such as that of Spanish club Granada 74. The exact wording of this article will be submitted to the next meeting of the Executive Committee and subsequently ratified by the FIFA Congress. The executive also approved the Standard Electoral Code for associations, a Standard Cooperation Agreement between associations and government bodies, standard regulations for national dispute resolution chambers as well as the establishment of a company under the name of FIFA Transfer Matching System GmbH. The purpose of this company is to compare international transfers and to prevent such abuses as agents representing minors, or money laundering in player transfers.

Of the USD 16 million in total prize money for the FIFA Club World Cup 2007, the winner will receive USD 5 million. The executive furthermore decided that this tournament would again be held in Japan in 2008, whereas the 2009 and 2010 competitions would be open to bidding. At this year's event, FIFA will test a completely new version of chip-in-ball goal-line technology from adidas and Cairos. The International Football Association Board gave the green light to these trials at its annual business meeting in Glasgow on 22 October 2007. However, as a matter of principle, the board rejected the suggestion of experimenting with two additional assistant referees at the same tournament.

The FIFA executive reiterated that it was essential to raise refereeing to professional status and incorporate referees' organisations into association structures to meet the ever increasing demands made on them. The executive approved a two-part plan with a preparation programme for prospective referees for 2010 and for further development of refereeing at association level, for which USD 37.5 million has been set aside.

With regard to finances, the executive was informed that FIFA's four-year budget for the 2007-2010 cycle had been adjusted as a result of increased revenue on the one hand and additional activities and obligations on the other. The new budget shows income of USD 3.2 billion and expenses of USD 2.96 billion. As a result of the revised budget, FIFA expects its equity to increase to USD 800 million by 2010. The new estimate will be submitted to the 2008 FIFA Congress for ratification.

Further decisions included:

- The executive noted with satisfaction a report by the Strategic Committee and the creation and composition of various working groups (cf. media release dated 9 October 2007).

- To further strengthen corporate governance and to adhere to compliance principles, the executive passed a revised version of FIFA's Internal Organisation Regulations.

- The 58th FIFA Congress will take place in Sydney on 29 and 30 May 2008. FIFA will put out tenders for subsequent congresses whose venues have not yet been confirmed. namely those in 2009, 2012 and 2013. The congress will be held in Johannesburg in 2010 and in Switzerland in 2011 .

- The U-20 Women's World Cup will be staged in Chile from 20 November to 7 December 2008.

- The number of participating associations for the Futsal World Cup in Brazil in 2008 has been increased from 16 to 20 and split among the confederations as follows: AFC 4, CAF 2, CONCACAF 3, CONMEBOL 3, OFC 1, UEFA 6 and hosts Brazil.

- The Executive Committee noted initial findings from the conference of medical specialists on football at high altitude and in other extreme conditions. The FIFA Sports Medical Committee will draw up a consensus paper, based on the conclusions it reaches at its meeting in Zurich on 2 November 2007, for submission to the Executive Committee meeting in Tokyo on 15 December 2007.

With regard to FIFA's flagship events in the women's and men's games, Brazil will present its bid for the 2014 FIFA World Cup™ whereas Germany and Canada will make presentations for the Women's World Cup 2011 in the auditorium of the Home of FIFA tomorrow, Tuesday, 30 October 2007 (cf. separate programme). As previously announced, the FIFA executive will announce its decisions on the host countries at a media conference later in the day (beginning at 15.00h CET).

[Guest Ed]

quote:Originally posted by amacpher

I hope the US never gets it again. 1994 -- worst World Cup ever!!

And I don't know how much easier it will be for Canadians to get tickets. Anyone who has tried to get tickets for Germany '06 and Austria/Swisse '08 knows that its only residents of the host countries who have a decent chance at obtaining tickets. For the rest its a lottery and the odds are not good.

I think places like South Africa offer people a better chance at tickets.

Based on what criteria? For my money, WC 1994 was terrific. Got tickets no problem. Travel was easy. Games on in our part of the world. None of this up a 1:00 AM MDT for games from the Far East. Also had some great games and stories. Got to see Henrik Larssen as a very young player.

[amacpher]

quote:Originally posted by Ed

Based on what criteria? For my money, WC 1994 was terrific. Got tickets no problem. Travel was easy. Games on in our part of the world. None of this up a 1:00 AM MDT for games from the Far East. Also had some great games and stories. Got to see Henrik Larssen as a very young player.

Of course getting tickets at USA '94 was easy. Football was non-existent in this country back then! But now it's very difficult to obtain tickets for the 3 biggest hyped football tournaments (Champions League, European championships and the world cup). The only exception (I'm hoping) is when the games are off the beaten track.

It comes down to sheer numbers. South Africa has a much smaller population and its tougher for others to get to. The fact that the weather is better and the country is a lot more knowledgeable about the sport will also make it a more enjoyable world cup to attend for the fans.

The only negative I can see is the time you need to invest to fly to South Africa. But then again, when you step off the plane you're not in Detroit. Or Orlando... or Dallas. So its well worth it, IMO.

[SCF08]

Well , Holland and Belgium have officialy applied to co-host the World Cup 2018 tournament [8D]

Blatter seemed very positive and said that this was the first party who have officialy spoken of their interest to Fifa.

Other parties have to apply before 2010 I think so it's hard to predict the competition. Holland and Belgium didnt want to wait any longer though...too enthousiastic