Rocket Robin Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 The Toronto Croatia game would have been cancelled too because the Victoria Park field was a mud pit. Only because it was too difficult to reschedule Laval was that game played on the same field a few hours earlier. I'll post something about that game in a little while. ............................................................ Sunday, October 1 There were two games in the CSL today: CSL Championship - Playoffs Quarter-finals: Toronto Croatia 1, Laval Dynamites 0 Windsor Border Stars 2, Oakville Blue Devils 1 The following game was postponed due to poor ground conditions and is to be rescheduled: Brampton Stallions vs. Italia Shooters The fourth quarter-final game: Monday, October 2, Centennial Stadium, Etobicoke 8 pm Serbian White Eagles vs. Toronto Supra Portuguese Semi-final games will be played at Esther Shiner Stadium, North York (Toronto) on Saturday, September 7 at 1 pm and 5 pm and the CSL Championship Final will be played on Sunday, October 15, the venue to be decided. Stan Adamson Executive Director Canadian Soccer League 7601 Martin Grove Road Vaughan, Ontario L4L 9E4 TEL: 905-856-5439 FAX: 905-856-9325 Email: stanadamson@canadiansoccerleague.ca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Robin Posted October 2, 2006 Author Share Posted October 2, 2006 Result of the October 1, 2006 CSL game between Toronto Croatia and Laval Dynamites played at Victoria Park in Brampton at 1:30pm. This was a one-game Quarterfinal Match for the CSL playoff trophy. 52 min…Croatia Tommy Ples GOAL…TC Jonathan Bustamante blasts 30 yard shot that hits the left post with a thunk and the ball deflects back for a jumping Tommy Ples to boot a 20 yarder into left side of net over fallen goalie Andrew Olivieri. 89 min…Dynamites RED card…Rachid Madkour draws a Yellow and then a Red for swearing at referee Steven De Piero when he whistled for a TC freekick near the center line. Final Score:……..Toronto Croatia…….1………Laval Dynamites……..0……… Attendance was about 150 on this mild afternoon. It was a nice day for fans to watch soccer but the field was in bad shape with mud in the goal areas and center circle and boggy conditions on some other parts of the field. The conditions should easily have had this game postponed but there was no chance of Laval (Montreal area team) being able to return to the Toronto area in the middle of the week and nowhere to reschedule the game on short notice. George Azcurra earned the shutout for Croatia without having to make any face-in-the mud diving saves. He was initially reluctant to play this game in these conditions along with some of the other players. He was helped by the solid play of the defenders. Croatia had the best chances in the game and even had better chances after they took the lead in the second half as the Dynamites had to press for the equalizer. Non-scoring highlights were: At 5 minutes when TC Hayden Fitzwilliams has a run on the left and rolls cross to right and from 10 yards TC Leo Laurito has ball bog down in mud and he rolls a shot that defender clears at 2 yards. At 8 minutes TC Peter Curic rushed on left and his 20 yard shot from near the end line was caught by the goalie. 16 minutes found a TC player’s 30 yard freekick from the right bounces to goalie when sliding TC Antonio Zupan misses connecting. At 23 minutes Zupan was injured near the sideline when he took a knee to the head and blood started to pour out. He was subbed immediately and taken to the hospital. At 34 minutes Fitzwilliams ran down the left after LD Berra Mohamed had been injured near the sideline and he chipped a 10 yard shot that hit the top of the bar near the left post and the ball deflected over the net. Three minutes later Fitzwilliams dribbles in beating the offside trap and he deked the goalie on the end line, he centers the ball and TC Boris Tomac blasted a 10 yard shot well over the net. At 39 minutes Ilias Calaitzidis dekes a TC defender and the goalie and his 12 yard shot was stopped by TC Domagoj Sain blocking his shot. Injury time had TC Curic’s 22 yard freekick from left fly over the wall and caught easily by the unmoving goalie. In the second half, four minutes after their goal, TC Tommy Ples who came in at halftime, got ball away although he was knocked over at center and Curic was in alone from the 45 yard line and his shot from 18 yards down the middle is wide right of the net. The next minute had TC Goran Grubesic’s cornerkick from the left had diving Curic flick 15 yard header from left wide left. At 66 minutes Ples is sent a ball up the middle and his low 25 yard kick is pushed wide right by sprawling goalie. At 85 minutes with the Dynamites pressing, TC Velemir Crljen rushed to middle and he pushed a pass to TC Boris Maric to blast a 15 yard shot that the goalie palmed over the net. The goalie had to dive one minute later in front of two TC players in the box to smother a loose ball. At 88 minutes LD Rodrigo Nievas’s cornerkick from right had a defender clear although a handball request was ignored. At 91 minutes, Calaitzidis’s cornerkick from left had TC Tom Granic head away. Injury time also found the TC goalie having to charge out to his right when a defender fell and on a last kick LD Nievas sent a 25 yard chip up the middle that the goalie caught. I had read the CSL website and was surprised to see the venue being here. Croatia official Theo Krajacic said that their home field Memorial Park in Mississauga had been flooded in one corner and the CSL league decided Victoria Park would be the venue. Brampton Stallions owner Joe Fuliere was livid that the league booked the field because of its delicate condition and angry at the city who had also booked the field for some adult league game that was in progress when I got there just before 1:00pm. Fuliere said he’d moved his Reserves game to one of the training fields to preserve the grass. My surprise was that the Stallions final scheduled league game had been cancelled at 4:00pm on Wednesday afternoon by Brampton city officials because of poor field conditions and was eventually played on Friday night when conditions weren’t that much better. I was thinking that those officials don’t work weekends but there was one there who was convinced by Stan Adamson of the CSL to let this game take place. The official said the city would usually close the field for the season tomorrow but would let the Stallions play here later in the week and maybe the field would heal by then. Hmm. The weather forecast for the next few days is showers and more showers for the next few days. Theo Krajacic said Toronto Croatia next year will play on field turf at a field just being constructed in Mississauga on grounds at the Hershey Centre as part of the legacy of Canada hosting next summer’s U-20 World Cup as one team will use the facility as a training centre. 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sajc Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Canadian soccer league got changed there play-off format for example like usl play two games and the winner is determine by aggregate score victory.Its not fair that team complete 22 games and they play one game in terrible field condition and there are out of the play-off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Robin Posted October 2, 2006 Author Share Posted October 2, 2006 Well lots of other countries have one game and you're out...like English FA Cup...except replays are given in tie games. English playoff semi-finals to join the premier division are two games but the final game for that one promotion spot is winner take all although usually on a neutral ground. In the CSL it would be too expensive to pull off and the playoffs would drag on even longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted October 3, 2006 Share Posted October 3, 2006 I don't know if CSL has any kind of significant home crowd/field advantage, besides travel, except for a few teams. Someone following the league might help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Robin Posted October 3, 2006 Author Share Posted October 3, 2006 Good point...This game was actually played in Brampton because of field availability. Semi-Finals will be in North York and Final is still to be arranged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Robin Posted October 3, 2006 Author Share Posted October 3, 2006 A better report I'll try to post tomorrow. Serbian White Eagles beat Toronto Supra Portuguese 3-0 with goals by Sasa Viciknez on a Penalty kick at 53 minutes then he scored again at 89 minutes and Alex Braletic scored at 91 minutes. This was a closer game than the scoreline indicated. Just tonight the semi-final game was announced as Serbian White Eagles against Windsor Border Stars at 5:00pm on Saturday. The Brampton Stallions vs Italia Shooters quarterfinal postponed from Sunday will be played either Wednesday night at Victoria Park or Thursday night at The Soccer Centre in Vaughan (which would make it a Shooters home game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Robin Posted October 4, 2006 Author Share Posted October 4, 2006 Result of the Monday October 2, 2006 CSL game between Serbian White Eagles and Toronto Supra Portuguese played at Centennial Stadium in Etobicoke at 8:00pm. This was a quarterfinal playoff game. 52 min…SWE Gabriel Pop passes into TSP box and TSP Peyvant Mossavat upends a SWE player. Referee Andrew Kravets signals for a Penalty kick. 53 min…SWE Sasa Viciknez GOAL…Viciknez blasts his Penalty kick shot high to right side of net beyond goalie Michael Silva. 89 min…SWE Sasa Viciknez GOAL…A TSP cornerkick from right has quick breakout for SWE. Viciknez is given pass on 2 on 1 but keeps ball on right and chips goalie from 15 yards. 91 min…SWE Alex Braletic GOAL…Braletic on another rush soon after restart kicks ball in from 10 yards. Final Score:………Serbian White Eagles……….3……….Toronto Supra Portuguese………0………… Attendance was about 1200 people on this cool night played on a dry field. This was a closer game than the score indicated with the White Eagles only pulling away in the last few minutes of the game as Supra was forced to press for the tying goal. Dusan Belic earned the shutout for the White Eagles with a few important stops while Michael Silva had to be sharp for Supra to keep them in the game. More accurate shooting for the White Eagles would have put this game away much earlier. Non goal scoring highlights included right from the first minute when SWE Sasa Viciknez 22 yard freekick from top left corner of box has SWE Mirko Medic one step ahead of getting to ball but ball deflected for cornerkick on right. Viciknez then worked out a short cornerkick from the right and the pass back to him results in his 15 yard shot from right is into outside webbing of net. At 10 minutes, SWE Milos Scepanovic ends pressure by turning after receiving pass and kicking 15 yard shot wide left; this flurry of action also had a TSP defender has arm connect to ball but referee misses call. One minute later Viciknez was given the ball on left and had a 15 yard low shot saved by foot of goalie who stayed on his feet. SWE players than had two more chances with TSP Peyvant Mossavat stopping a 10 yard shot and goalie catch pop up. At 15 minutes Scepanovic’s 12 yard shot up middle deflected for cornerkick. At 20 minutes Viciknez has midair blast from right when he crosses comes to him and goalie saves diving to left on 15 yards shot. At 27 minutes, SWE Pop 15 yard shot is low from right and goalie dives to push ball wide left. The next minute, TSP Samuel Afriyie twists and rolls 18 yard shot wide right after getting pass in the clear in middle. At 39 minutes, the TSP goalie charges back to catch SWE Pop’s header from 10 yards up the middle. In the second half Viciknez cornerkick from left has SWE Bozo Milic leap in crowd players and head 5 yard header wide left. At 60 minute Viciknez given through pass on left and he chips 20 yard cross well over net. At 62 minutes, TSP Giovanni Annisi’s 25 yard cross from left has goalie palm ball wide right for cornerkick. At 66 minutes, Afriyie’s strong cross from 12 yards on left has two TSP players just one step behind tap-in inside SWE box. At 69 minutes TSP Alex Pasade cornerkick from left knocked away, TSP Afriyie gets 12 yard header caught by goalie. Two minutes later TSP Adolfo Mella crosses from 30 yards on left is partially headed by defender and TSP Michael De Luca kicks 4 yarder over net on sliding kick. At 74 minutes SWE Alex Braletic passes to SWE Pop who misses 10 yard shot in middle. One minute later the TSP’s were lucky not to have another penalty kick called against them when a SWE player was pushed from behind inside box. At 78 minutes, Viciknez cornerkick from right has SWE Mark Jankovic on right head 5 yarder that’s caught by goalie. Just tonight the semi-final game was announced as Serbian White Eagles against Windsor Border Stars at 5:00pm on Saturday. The Brampton Stallions vs. Italia Shooters quarterfinal postponed from Sunday will be played either Wednesday night at Victoria Park or Thursday night at The Soccer Centre in Vaughan (which would make it a Shooters home game. Rocket Robin robing@eol.ca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Robin Posted October 4, 2006 Author Share Posted October 4, 2006 Thought I'd missed a game but it turns out Brampton Stallions forfeited their postponed quarterfinal game against Italia Shooters... This from the league news... IT'S CROATIA VS. ITALIA SHOOTERS AND EAGLES VS. WINDSOR BORDER STARS Wednesday - October 4, 2006 Soccer spectacular set The scene is set for two playoff semi-finals to be played at Esther Shiner Stadium this coming Saturday, with the opening between Toronto Croatia and Italia Shooters at 1 p.m. and the second game between Serbian White Eagles and Windsor Border Stars scheduled for 5pm. Toronto Croatia advanced to the semi-finals with a 1-0 victory over Laval Dynamites and Italia Shooters qualified for a semi-final playoff berth following the forfeiture of the quarter-final game by Brampton Stallions following the postponement of the game with Italia last Sunday. Serbian White Eagles defeated Toronto Supra Portuguese 3-0 to earn their semi-final berth and the Border Stars overcame Oakville Blue Devils, 2-1, in their quarter-final playoff. Serbian White Eagles are considered favourites to win their semi-final and the CSL Championship following an outstanding inaugural season during which they lost just one of 22 league games and they have conceded just one goal in their last eight games. An attractive team to watch, the Eagles have a potent attack in strikers Gabriel Pop and Sasa Viciknez who account for 23 goals apiece in the 2006 campaign. Viciknez is one of nine professionals brought here from Europe to join head coach, former Yugoslavian international, the legendary Dragoslav Sekularac in the club's bid for CSL honours. Toronto Croatia have also been impressive this season, they lost just three games in the regular season and a highlight of the year was the Mississauga-based team’s victory in the North American Championship for Croatian teams in Florida last month. It’s Toronto Croatia’s 50th anniversary in Canadian professional soccer and a CSL Championship victory would be just the ticket and something to write home about. Italia Shooters are in their inaugural year in the International Division, a team derived from last year’s Vaughan Shooters which developed a reputation for quick, attractive soccer that deserved its share of major honours but suffered two championship losses in succession in 2003 and 2004. The team has not lost its lustre and is considered a real possibility to succeed in the upcoming games. Windsor Border Stars emerge in the semi-finals a bit unexpectedly until fans are reminded of the team’s strong showing since joining the league three years ago including two Open Canada Cup Final wins in succession. The team also won the American Indoor Soccer League (AISL) title on their first attempt in 2005, to stamp the team as being capable of anything that comes along. The semi-finals this Saturday are expected to provide some of the more spectacular soccer on display since the Canadian Soccer League kicked off last May 19. Admission to Esther Shiner Stadium on Saturday is12 noon with the following ticket prices: ADULTS: $25.00 SINGLE GAME SENIORS: (66 & UP) $20.00 SINGLE GAME TEENAGERS: (14 TO 19): $15.00 SINGLE GAME YOUTHS (13 & UNDER): $10.00 SINGLE GAME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 25$???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakwood Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 So after all this Croatia-Serbian fiasco....we can and will most likely have one more final meeting for all the marbles. YIKES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bettermirror Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 that price demand is a f**kin' joke. even 15 is pushing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrv_toronto Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 I agree 25$ is crazy. They are trying to cash in the finals i guess between Tor Cro and SWE. IF they did not have these two teams the attendance at the games would be 20 fans ( parents and grilfriends) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccerman2 Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 CSL Championship Playoffs The quarter-final game postponed last Sunday between Brampton Stallions and Italia Shooters has been placed in default and the game awarded to Italia Shooters by a 2-0 score in keeping with CSL Rules and Regulations. As a result of this, the semi-final games are: CSL CHAMPIONSHIP - PLAYOFFS Semi-finals Esther Shiner Stadium, North York Saturday, October 7 1 pm - Toronto Croatia vs. Italia Shooters 5 pm - Serbian White Eagles vs. Windsor Border Stars Stan Adamson Executive Director Canadian Soccer League 7601 Martin Grove Road Vaughan, Ontario L4L 9E4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hrv_toronto Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Just like to know what is the punishment for The Brampton team for not playing the semi-final game which they played the whole season for ? I see them not coming back next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 quote:Originally posted by soccerman2 CSL Championship Playoffs The quarter-final game postponed last Sunday between Brampton Stallions and Italia Shooters has been placed in default and the game awarded to Italia Shooters by a 2-0 score in keeping with CSL Rules and Regulations. As a result of this, the semi-final games are: CSL CHAMPIONSHIP - PLAYOFFS Semi-finals Esther Shiner Stadium, North York Saturday, October 7 1 pm - Toronto Croatia vs. Italia Shooters 5 pm - Serbian White Eagles vs. Windsor Border Stars Stan Adamson Executive Director Canadian Soccer League 7601 Martin Grove Road Vaughan, Ontario L4L 9E4 And the CSL calls itself a professional league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennedy Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 My understanding is that the owner of the Stallions insisted the quarter final play off game be played at his home field as, after all, the team played hard all year to get the home field advantage. The home field, Victoria Park in Brampton is in bad shape because of the severe weather that has hit the area recently and, coupled with the CSL using Victoria Park to let Croatia play Laval (when the field was already questionable) forced the cancellation of the Brampton and Italia game for that same day because, quite frankly, the CSL made the huge mistake of letting the aforementioned Croatia game take place. I can see where Stallions owner Mr. Fuliere is coming from and he has every right to be upset and this was probably the last straw for him when the CSL ordered him to play the tie at Italia's home field (which is an artificial surface)and thus, through no fault of his own, Mr. Fulieres team lost it's home field advantage. An obvious (and sensible) solution was to play the Brampton game against Italia at Brampton this weekend and delay one of the semifinals for a few days. The weather for the Brampton area over the next days is anticipated to be dry and warm from what I have read. Personally, I think it is grossly unfair. The CSL is a good league with a lot of great athletes playing there. Attendances at some games are very low but the product is there and in due course things will pick up. I do hope the CSL revisit this decision of theirs which forced the Stallions to withdraw from the tie. Just doen't seem right to me and what is so important that the semi final has to be played this weekend anyway? Come on and sort it properly. It is seriously bad publicity for the CSL if they don't correct this wrong. What the league seems to forget is the Stallions players. What about them? They deserve a better fate than this. As I said, fix this, please. quote]Originally posted by hrv_toronto Just like to know what is the punishment for The Brampton team for not playing the semi-final game which they played the whole season for ? I see them not coming back next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 I don't think many if any people have a problem with the players in the CSL or even the clubs. It is with the way the league is run that there clearly are issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Robin Posted October 5, 2006 Author Share Posted October 5, 2006 From what I remember when I was there on Sunday, the field was unplayable for the Croatia vs Laval game but because Laval had come all the way to Toronto, they had to play that game. (Laval doesn't travel for midweek games--especially after last year's midweek playoff disaster of having the players arrive on two different planes for a Wednesday night game (one plane delayed) against Croatia and having the stadium lights cut off at 11:00pm). The 2006 schedule was revamped so all playoff games would be played on the weekend. Now the Croatia game could have been scheduled at some field turf venue like Ontario Soccer Centre or Birchmount Stadium (well Caribbean Selects didn't make the playoffs) and given enought notice, the hardcore Croatia fans would have driven that far. They couldn't play at their own Memorial Park because the field was still flooded in one corner. If the Croatia game had not taken place at Victoria Park, the Stallions I believe would still not have played because of the poor field. The City of Brampton had rented out the field that same day to some men's house league and the field was beint well stomped on when I got there. With even more rain Monday and Tuesday, I don't expect the field healed even though a City official was on the field and promised that though the city would normally close the field after that day, they would let the Stallions get in one more game and with no-one playing on it, it might be playable by midweek. I don't expect that happened. Midweek games no matter where they're played don't have the drawing power at this time of year. Richard...I got the idea you did have problems with the league AND the clubs. Gee what was it 30 posts about the Serbia vs Croatia games? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 I don't blame the clubs unless they promote or permit hooliganism on the part of their supporters and that applies to any club. It is the league that dreamed up and created the ill-fated 'international division'. I don't mind ethno-cultural clubs/leagues in amateur recreational sport but that kind of thing has no place at the domestic professional level. The CSL keeps telling us it is a professional league with national aspirations - the saga you describe comes across as rather bush league frankly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 You keep repeating this professional thing like it actually makes a huge difference. Professional in this context simply means the players can be paid some money openly just as happens in Intercounty baseball or senior AAA hockey neither of which figure prominently on the sports page of major national newspapers because they are viewed as being to use your terminology bush league. The national aspirations are only to have a network of regional divisions contained within drivable distances from sea to shining sea not to try to recreate the 1987-1992 era CSL complete with air travel. Given that only Ontario has done this sort of thing ever since 1927 based on the National Soccer League and then the Canadian National Soccer League there is no reason to believe the national aspiration thing is going to actually materialize any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 Well 'professional' has connotations beyond merely the clubs paying the players some money openly. It differentiates the organisation from 'amateur'. If an organisation wishes to present itself as 'professional' then it needs to perform accordingly, especially considering the amount of money the CSL charges for its 'franchises' and the fact that it has fulltime paid employees running the show. The commissioner seems to suggest that charging a lot of money will do the trick. Well there is much more to establishing a 'professional' operation than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennedy Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 quote:Originally posted by Richard Well 'professional' has connotations beyond merely the clubs paying the players some money openly. It differentiates the organisation from 'amateur'. If an organisation wishes to present itself as 'professional' then it needs to perform accordingly, especially considering the amount of money the CSL charges for its 'franchises' and the fact that it has fulltime paid employees running the show. The commissioner seems to suggest that charging a lot of money will do the trick. Well there is much more to establishing a 'professional' operation than that. Saw the following posts on the Ontario Soccer League message board under the title "CSL is a joke" http://forums.ontariosl.com/viewtopic.php?t=473&sid=6ddd790ed486aee07620a3ac5848422f. I think the writer got a little carried away with some remarks and clear untruths (attendances out by factors of 10 and 11 for example - and the numbers of those who would have shown up for the game and all the CSL teams that are alleged to be leaving and so on). Looking at the CSL web site it would appear they are not going to move on this Stallions caper. Too bad and really unfortunate. Although the CSL has to shoulder the lions share of the blame for this public relations disaster, I do believe Brampton should still have played the game at the other location and the decision by the owner not to play was hasty and done in frustration. The Stallions record against the Shooters is a good one (Stallions beat Shooters in Canada cup at the Shooters home field and recently also played out two tied games, home and away) and had every chance to beat them and move on. I really don't know what to make of all this ( as above we have a guy - who purports to be a part of the Stallions organization - on OSL message board writing all kinds of nonsense in relation to wages, crowds, Laval, Caplan, how rubbishy the CSL is). Common sense should have prevailed in this Stallions fiasco and, although as I said before Stallions owner definitely has the right to feel aggrieved (even shafted, maybe?), he should still have played the game and sorted out the politics afterwards. How you can walk away after spending the money he has and the commitment of the players all season to play for him is silly. This game is for the players but clearly there are those in some positions of power in this sport who don't believe it. Too bad. It's going to hurt the league going forward and perceptions of ineptitude, whether rightly or wrongly, can sting. " sandipsn Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 16 Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 5:07 pm Post subject: Re: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- sweetfeet wrote: What the heck!? what happened Brampton?!?! This is a disgrace. shouldn't they be charged!? what's going on here??? this is supposed to be our PROFESSIONAL league in Canada and forfeits are occuring??? They didnt show up to a quarterfinal game in the Peel Halton League as well (their reserve team) they had no socks, no books, and no full uniforms. What's going on? Definately some organization woe's. I was kind of excited to see them play the shooters. I am distraught. wow!!! The CSL demands respect and things like this occur. I have to agree with 'Playa' . $25 to see a CSL game which is most likely (aside from serbs and prob T.Croatia... OSL PROV quality. I doubt the games will be as exciting as the Ontario Cup Finals. I think you need to educate urself instead of assuming we just forfeited the game... THE CSL IS DEFINATLY A JOKE!!! ...We were scheduled to play our game on October 1st at our homefield Victoria Park... midweek the league calls us and request to use our homefield for Toronto Croatia's playoff game vs Laval Dynamites on the same day , as Vic Park was in horrible shape we respectfully declined their request as the field could barely take one last game before it was closed for the season... I believe this had come about as the city of toronto no longer want to rent out fields to Toronto Croatia nor Serbia due to recent crowd troubles...anyways despite us strongly being against someone else using our homefield only an hour before our most important game of the season...the league contacts Brampton Parks & Rec. and books the field without our knowledge to play the Croatia-Laval game before our game..yes you could argue the Parks and Rec people shouldnt rent it out, however i've been told some lies were told to the poor young girl at the office that made her oblige...So the first match is played at 1:30pm and as it finishes the Park rep closes the field as it looked like a mudfield...we were forced to postpone as a result...I am sure everyone by now agree this is already a farce it gets worse...Tuesday the 3rd we are told we have two choices, either to play at Vic Park or Century Garden (horrible field for Rec level), or play the game at Italia Shooters homeground the following night...As we earned a hardfought home advantage, why would we agree to play at the Soccer centre? You have to remember any game we play cost us over 5k in wages,combined with loss of homecrowd we were going to be in a serious minus...anyway wednesday come and as both our fields are still unplayable as deemed by the city people...we are told to play at soccer centre or forfeit...as its a matter of principle we couldnt justify playing the match and subsequently will pull out of the league along with Laval and possibly others also...I feel for our players/staff/volunteers/owner who has turned the club around from a last place finish the year before to a second place finish this year and also having added a crop of youth in a reserve team, but in the end we couldnt let the league continue their BS...The Stallions will not fold, however the chances of staying in the CSL is minimum... ...as for the match you are referring to sweetfeet, I am the manager and went over to europe for 3 weeks and unfortunatly the people who was delegated certain roles fell through, combined with us exiting the Canada Cup the night before and everybody being in a rather "who cares" mood... I can assure for the first time in ages this Brampton organization was ran in a proper fashion, the CSL is all about making money at the top and Cary Kaplan is a media whore who talks a good game, however dont do anything for the people who keep on pumping 100k a year into it...My soccer management background is from Norway and I guess when you have seen the true meaning of professional you expect more... Rant over...! sandipsn Joined: 28 Jul 2006 Posts: 16 Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 6:27 pm Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Vic Park is probably one of the best non turf fields in at least the west end, I am sure others can vouch for that...It was mauled by a match played on wednesday against the astros and the continues rain in that period did not allow for repairs...to all the KB's that didnt get to avenge the league loss to the Stallions im truly sorry, but I wasnt here to ensure things would go smooth...I take my reserve team more serious then i take any other team...FACT...in terms of ineligble players thats totally new to me, although I have heard rumours a certain Swansea/Leyton Orient trialist did get kitted for a match or two for the KB's...only rumours tho didnt see it with my own eyes... 3 times this season we have had capacity crowds of 800 people at our homefield...we would have had similar on October 1st as Brampton East was bringing 400 kids and parents coaches...our south american players had been in touch with a couple of spanish organizations and was promising 100...One of our main sponsors a Law firm was bringing 150-200...in addition our regular 100-200 homecrowd... Theres countries where crowds like that just show up as they support the local team here its a constant struggle...You can appreciate that moving a game from a Sunday that we had worked around the clock to promote versus a School night and also travelling to Woodbridge would mean a substantial loss in revenue... to put it in perspective what if the NHL made Ottawa play their home game at the ACC a couple of hours before the Leafs played a game 7 and also did not allow them to have a say in the matter would this have not created fury and a riot like situation in the city/media and such??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dok je srca bitce Croatie Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 Here we go again with the anti-ethnic Richard, you really gotta give it a rest, the problem isnt the ethnic teams its the fact that the league is not what it claims to be ' professional' .... This professional soccer which you are naively pushing for, too bad it dont exist, its rather the highest level of amateur soccer we have in this province. The csl is 'professional' on paper only, Until players can make a living of their ' salary ' alone then it will not be considered professional. I know how it is with guys on the teams, 'professional' soccer player by hobby and construction worker in order to make bread and survive....... And i know it might be a tough pill to swallow but remember had there be no 'ethnics', there would be no soccer in this country. PERIOD . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackTheBlizzard Posted October 6, 2006 Share Posted October 6, 2006 Sounds to me after reading that rant that Brampton paid their players way too much to be viable (the franchises with staying power are the London Citys and North York Astros after all) and this incident provided a face saving way to walk out on the league. Interesting snippet about the City of Toronto possibly not wanting to rent out their fields to Toronto Croatia and the Serbian White Eagles. Croatia are probably OK in that scenario as they play out in the boonies but SWE would have a major problem if that applied next season if their lease on Centennial runs out after this season given that Hamilton is probably also off limits to them as well. I guess the Soccer Centre in Vaughan would be the most obvious solution and they would have to downsize their ambitions a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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