MLSFAN Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 What have the two of them done for soccer in Toronto. WHy would we respect them. What do thye bring to soccer in TO> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bxl Boy Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 With such a reflexion, just declare the independance of toronto city or make it the 51st state of USA But never speak anymore about the unity of Canada and whine about “Quebec Separatists” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakwood Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 I think that both of them, who acctually seem to be doing somthing for their respective citie's soccer programs have forced Toronto to do the same. I think they deserve some respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 Its a silly question - how can you "owe" somebody respect? Do (non-troll) Toronto fans respect Kerfoot & Saputo? By and large I'd say yes. Doesn't mean that everyone agrees with everything they (or Lenarduzzi on behalf of the Whitecaps) say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealGooner Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 I respect them for what they have done. But I don't think that Toronto owes them anything, with respect to their claim that MLS shouldn't come to Toronto until Vancouver and Montreal are ready for MLS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbailey62 Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 quote:Originally posted by RealGooner I respect them for what they have done. But I don't think that Toronto owes them anything, with respect to their claim that MLS shouldn't come to Toronto until Vancouver and Montreal are ready for MLS. Certianly I respect both Saputo and Kerfoot. They are succesful businessmen, run succesful soccer clubs and one day, with luck, will both be owner/operators of MLS franchises alongside MLSE. What is not to respect? db Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 I am happy TO has gotten public money for a stadium, and that the CSA has seen fit to channel their efforts to bring Canada into MLS with Toronto in mind. But there are other individuals they have virtually ignored, who are doing a better job with clubs than anyone else in Canada. They have more experience and more know-how in the game than MLSE has now. Meaning that maybe those in Toronto should stay humble about the benefits they've received, because they are theirs in the name of all Canadians. It is, in part, all of Canada's gift to Toronto, deserving no doubt. I could go into this deeper, but I am not saying it in a snide way, it is simply the case if you look carefully. So better than getting uppity I say better off silent and humble about the break that has arrived to Canada's most important city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLSFAN Posted November 17, 2005 Author Share Posted November 17, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S. I am happy TO has gotten public money for a stadium, and that the CSA has seen fit to channel their efforts to bring Canada into MLS with Toronto in mind. But there are other individuals they have virtually ignored, who are doing a better job with clubs than anyone else in Canada. They have more experience and more know-how in the game than MLSE has now. Meaning that maybe those in Toronto should stay humble about the benefits they've received, because they are theirs in the name of all Canadians. It is, in part, all of Canada's gift to Toronto, deserving no doubt. I could go into this deeper, but I am not saying it in a snide way, it is simply the case if you look carefully. So better than getting uppity I say better off silent and humble about the break that has arrived to Canada's most important city. I find it pretty funny people think we got a gift. Look at the rest of this Country. Who paid for any of the stadiums and facilites they have. Did you hear people in Toronto moan when VCR got 300 Million federal fundsfor 2010 . All Torotno got was a Stadium that was promised for us getting WYC 2007. FIFA donated 600K plus to help us get this done. Is Toronto the greatest net contributor to federal coffers not allowed to get a little back. My take on Saputo's and Keerfoot(Duze) comments is sour grapes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 quote:Originally posted by MLSFAN I find it pretty funny people think we got a gift. Look at the rest of this Country. Who paid for any of the stadiums and facilites they have. Did you hear people in Toronto moan when VCR got 300 Million federal fundsfor 2010 . All Torotno got was a Stadium that was promised for us getting WYC 2007. FIFA donated 600K plus to help us get this done. Is Toronto the greatest net contributor to federal coffers not allowed to get a little back. My take on Saputo's and Keerfoot(Duze) comments is sour grapes. ummm what local ranked dead last last 10 years of pro soccer attendances for Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver? What of the 3- has the largest metro area and STILL finshed dead last. Ummm Toronto. And what Canadian franchise will finish dead last in 2007 in the MLS attendance chart-- were Montreal and Vancouver would be top 4? Umm the Toronto Aviators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLSFAN Posted November 17, 2005 Author Share Posted November 17, 2005 quote:Originally posted by G-Man ummm what local ranked dead last last 10 years of pro soccer attendances for Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver? What of the 3- has the largest metro area and STILL finshed dead last. Ummm Toronto. And what Canadian franchise will finish dead last in 2007 in the MLS attendance chart-- were Montreal and Vancouver would be top 4? Umm the Toronto Aviators. What person is the dumbest fvuk on earth, G-man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 quote:Originally posted by dbailey62 Certianly I respect both Saputo and Kerfoot. They are succesful businessmen, run succesful soccer clubs and one day, with luck, will both be owner/operators of MLS franchises alongside MLSE. What is not to respect? db My sentiments exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Man Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 quote:Originally posted by MLSFAN What person is the dumbest fvuk on earth, G-man man I'm hoping that when you buy your MLS season tickets, you sit right next to G-L saying "A-V- AITORS" Now that would be sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussoccerfan Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 quote:Originally posted by MLSFAN What person is the dumbest fvuk on earth, G-man MLSFAN- how old are you ? Where are you from ? It seems like you're for toronto 1 minute, & against toronto the next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealGooner Posted November 17, 2005 Share Posted November 17, 2005 quote:Originally posted by MLSFAN I find it pretty funny people think we got a gift. Look at the rest of this Country. Who paid for any of the stadiums and facilites they have. Did you hear people in Toronto moan when VCR got 300 Million federal fundsfor 2010 . All Torotno got was a Stadium that was promised for us getting WYC 2007. FIFA donated 600K plus to help us get this done. Is Toronto the greatest net contributor to federal coffers not allowed to get a little back. My take on Saputo's and Keerfoot(Duze) comments is sour grapes. I have to agree with you here. Its only when Toronto gets something that everyone complains. Jeffrey, There is nothing for toronto to be 'humble' about. You will not find Toronto posters insulting other cities and regions or talking down their stadiums. You will however find posters from other reasons doing those very things with regard to Toronto. Toronto posters have every right to defend themselves from unjust attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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