beachesl Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 Top two go to round of 16 home-and-away, third place goes to UEFA Cup round of 32. Manchester United evil Red Devils OUT of Europe!! Champions League Tables UEFA Champions League : Group A Table P W D L F A GD PTS 1 Juventus 6 5 0 1 12 5 7 15 2 Bayern Munich 6 4 1 1 10 4 6 13 3 Club Brugge 6 2 1 3 6 7 -1 7 4 Rapid Vienna 6 0 0 6 3 15 -12 0 UEFA Champions League : Group B Table P W D L F A GD PTS 1 Arsenal 6 5 1 0 10 2 8 16 2 Ajax 6 3 2 1 10 6 4 11 3 FC Thun 6 1 1 4 4 9 -5 4 4 Sparta Prague 6 0 2 4 2 9 -7 2 UEFA Champions League : Group C Table P W D L F A GD PTS 1 Barcelona 6 5 1 0 16 2 14 16 2 Werder Bremen 6 2 1 3 12 12 0 7 3 Udinese 6 2 1 3 10 12 -2 7 4 Panathinaikos 6 1 1 4 4 16 -12 4 UEFA Champions League : Group D Table P W D L F A GD PTS 1 Villarreal 6 2 4 0 3 1 2 10 2 Benfica 6 2 2 2 5 5 0 8 3 Lille 6 1 3 2 1 2 -1 6 4 Man Utd 6 1 3 2 3 4 -1 6 UEFA Champions League : Group E Table P W D L F A GD PTS 1 AC Milan 6 3 2 1 12 6 6 11 2 PSV 6 3 1 2 4 6 -2 10 3 Schalke 04 6 2 2 2 12 9 3 8 4 Fenerbahce 6 1 1 4 7 14 -7 4 UEFA Champions League : Group F Table P W D L F A GD PTS 1 Lyon 6 5 1 0 13 4 9 16 2 Real Madrid 6 3 1 2 10 8 2 10 3 Rosenborg 6 1 1 4 6 11 -5 4 4 Olympiacos 6 1 1 4 7 13 -6 4 UEFA Champions League : Group G Table P W D L F A GD PTS 1 Liverpool 6 3 3 0 6 1 5 12 2 Chelsea 6 3 2 1 7 1 6 11 3 Real Betis 6 2 1 3 3 7 -4 7 4 Anderlecht 6 1 0 5 1 8 -7 3 UEFA Champions League : Group H Table P W D L F A GD PTS 1 Inter Milan 6 4 1 1 9 4 5 13 2 Rangers 6 1 4 1 7 7 0 7 3 Artmedia Bratislava 6 1 3 2 5 9 -4 6 4 FC Porto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted December 7, 2005 Share Posted December 7, 2005 So that's Group winners: Juventus Arsenal Barcelona Villareal (smallest town in history to make it this far in Champions) AC Milan Liverpool Lyon Inter Milan Facing any of the following except from the same Association: Bayern Munich Ajax Werder Bremen Benfica PSV Real Madrid Chelsea Thus the only match-ups that cannot be had are Madrid-Barça, Madrid-Villareal and Chelsea-Arsenal. Draw on December 16th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amacpher Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Jeffrey S. So that's Group winners: Juventus Arsenal Barcelona Villareal (smallest town in history to make it this far in Champions) AC Milan Liverpool Lyon Inter Milan Facing any of the following except from the same Association: Bayern Munich Ajax Werder Bremen Benfica PSV Real Madrid Chelsea Thus the only match-ups that cannot be had are Madrid-Barça, Madrid-Villareal and Chelsea-Arsenal. Draw on December 16th. I thought its also not possible to draw against a team from your group. Did they change that? I hope not. Who wants to see the same teams matchup again? Great story Villareal is. And they're no fluke. Especially considering their best player, Riquelme, was injured much of the first-round.... But I think the town of Villareal is still a bit bigger than Monaco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polish_LYNX_Fan Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 I though Monaco was a principality or something like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Liverpool-Chelsea should also be added to the list of not possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amacpher Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 quote:Originally posted by Gordon Liverpool-Chelsea should also be added to the list of not possible. I don't think Liverpool is considered an English team for draw purposes. That's how they ended up in Chelsea's group to begin with. Damn! I just finished watching the Udinese x Barca match. Barca is scary at the moment. Their "B" team essentially man-handled Udinese in Italy. Could have been 5-nil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massive Attack Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 You can't be drawn with a team you played in the group stage. Therefore, Liverpool cannot face Chelsea because they were from the same group and they can't face Arsenal because they are both first place teams. The country protection thing is probably removed for the quarter finals afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zacRWE Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Though I like Werder Bremen... I feel bad for Udinese, they have impressed me the last two years. They are a selling team usually, so it would of been a good story had they reached the round of 16. Good job to reach the UEFA Cup spot considering it was a tricky group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachesl Posted December 8, 2005 Author Share Posted December 8, 2005 quote:Originally posted by amacpher I don't think Liverpool is considered an English team for draw purposes. That's how they ended up in Chelsea's group to begin with. You be right, sir. Here are the opening final round draw (Dec 16) rules, from http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/europe/4509282.stm "Last 16 draw conditions: Teams from the same national association cannot be drawn together. Liverpool have no 'country protection' because of the special circumstances of their entry into the competition, but cannot face Chelsea (same group) or Arsenal (group winners like Liverpool). The winners and runners-up of the same group cannot be drawn together. Group winners will be kept apart in the draw. Group runners-up will play the first leg of the two-legged knock-out ties at home, giving the group winners the perceived advantage of playing at home in the second leg. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrison Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 I kind of like and hate the fact that rangers were forgotten there... the lamest group I've ever seen in the CL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jeffery S. Posted December 8, 2005 Share Posted December 8, 2005 Yes, I know I screwed up that analysis. No two teams already having faced each other, and Liverpool is not considered an FA team, so Liverpool could have faced Arsenal if they had not both won their groups. I too think it is funny I left out Rangers. But would love to see them for my Barça, especially to make my Celtic-supporting friends happy here. As is you cannot call this Champions League, but since the slight edge would go to Chelsea, Barça and perhaps Juventus on the basis of league play, with Liverpool, Milan and Bayern in there next as tough sides and unpredictable Arsenal and Inter, I think that if anyone can knock of two of the top three mentioned before the final, the one standing come the final will be the winner. Barça, though, has been seriously hurt by the loss of Xavi, he is truly irreplaceable, and his being out means we have to play in a different way, more physical perhaps, less creative in possession. Though I will say that Barça has the deepest squad in Europe right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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