Blizzard warning

[RealGooner]

quote:Originally posted by DoyleG

Let's see the Six degrees of separation.

Funny given that the definition of a Blizzard in Toronto is when you get more than a 1cm of snow on the ground. The Blizzard may be good name at it's time but that was, as you said, two decades ago. A group like MLSE isn't going to take the time to educate the soccer public about a name. If they want to get people involved with the team, they'll go to a naming contest in which the Blizzard name is certain to lose.

How is that good when having Yallop just so you can put him on an MLS team. The media would jump over such an act to frame the CSA as a nepotistic organization. You can't as well name a coach who would head the national team under this circumstance. You would basically make the Nats coach a subordinate of Yallop. No one would ever work under such a propsal. MLSE wouldn't go for that since National team matters would be, despite Peddie's public remarks, well back of the need to promote the team. They would rather bring an outsider in who will just deal with the club.

If they didn't want a track, they shouldn't have gone to city council to ask for the cash. Now that the fate of the stadium lies in the hands of city council, they can now attach demands that would make it more accessable to the sporting community. That means a grass field and a track. Ben seems to forget that Commonwealth has a track and people don't find it that bothersome.

If MLSE doesn't want a track, they should cough up more cash or start having to accept that they would have to bring on more partners (ie. Athletics and Rugby) in order to have the city give them the funds.

If your going to that, they what on earth would you have an MLS team, let alone one run by MLSE. MLSE is going to run this team no different from how they run the Leafs and the Raptors. They will sell this as part of the Maple Leaf experience. They can't afford to sell to Soccer Mom's and young kids when they have to go head-to-head with both the Argos and the Jays.

If you want to sell to Soccer Mom's and kids, buy the Lynx from the Hartrells (at the selling price and operational cost that's a fraction of MLS) and increase the budget of the squad. In that instance you would both play to Dad's and Boys (Though the Lynx) and to Mom's and Girls (Through the Lady Lynx).

Why would MLSE want to put their money into such a scheme when such organizations are already in place. No pro team in North American invests in such organizations. They leave it up to someone else to do the development. That would allow them to turn a profit, if their is any, on the MLS team itself. No organization would put so much money into useless overhead.

Let's be realistic here, the stunning flop of Chivas USA on the field shows that any team that tries to work under restricted circumstances is going to suffer. While Paul James said on the score that MLS Toronto would be competing for the title is 3-5 years and winning it even them is quite a strech given what MLSE is going to have for a roster.

The Rock work thanks to that the players on the Rock are the kind that people would relate themselves to. Policeman, Municipal Workers, Teachers, Businessmen etc. That is what drew the media to the Rock to begin with. Winning may help but it can't be sustained forever and that attachment to the community is what's going to keep people in the stands.

All very good points, especially the last one. We really need to bring home Toronto players like De Rosario and Radzinski to begin with and keep a few Toronto player son the team at all times to maintain the home connection. I do disagree that City Council will ask for a running track, they are aware that this is an SSS, not a multi-purpose facilty.

[Gian-Luca]

Latest Ben Knight article:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/soccer/columnist.jsp?content=20051031_115537_5952

Another good one, though he could easily have gone a lot further in ridiculing the comments of some of the councillors that voted against the stadium.

[Leafs]

quote:Originally posted by DoyleG

Let's see the Six degrees of separation.

Funny given that the definition of a Blizzard in Toronto is when you get more than a 1cm of snow on the ground. The Blizzard may be good name at it's time but that was, as you said, two decades ago. A group like MLSE isn't going to take the time to educate the soccer public about a name. If they want to get people involved with the team, they'll go to a naming contest in which the Blizzard name is certain to lose.

How is that good when having Yallop just so you can put him on an MLS team. The media would jump over such an act to frame the CSA as a nepotistic organization. You can't as well name a coach who would head the national team under this circumstance. You would basically make the Nats coach a subordinate of Yallop. No one would ever work under such a propsal. MLSE wouldn't go for that since National team matters would be, despite Peddie's public remarks, well back of the need to promote the team. They would rather bring an outsider in who will just deal with the club.

If they didn't want a track, they shouldn't have gone to city council to ask for the cash. Now that the fate of the stadium lies in the hands of city council, they can now attach demands that would make it more accessable to the sporting community. That means a grass field and a track. Ben seems to forget that Commonwealth has a track and people don't find it that bothersome.

If MLSE doesn't want a track, they should cough up more cash or start having to accept that they would have to bring on more partners (ie. Athletics and Rugby) in order to have the city give them the funds.

If your going to that, they what on earth would you have an MLS team, let alone one run by MLSE. MLSE is going to run this team no different from how they run the Leafs and the Raptors. They will sell this as part of the Maple Leaf experience. They can't afford to sell to Soccer Mom's and young kids when they have to go head-to-head with both the Argos and the Jays.

If you want to sell to Soccer Mom's and kids, buy the Lynx from the Hartrells (at the selling price and operational cost that's a fraction of MLS) and increase the budget of the squad. In that instance you would both play to Dad's and Boys (Though the Lynx) and to Mom's and Girls (Through the Lady Lynx).

Why would MLSE want to put their money into such a scheme when such organizations are already in place. No pro team in North American invests in such organizations. They leave it up to someone else to do the development. That would allow them to turn a profit, if their is any, on the MLS team itself. No organization would put so much money into useless overhead.

Let's be realistic here, the stunning flop of Chivas USA on the field shows that any team that tries to work under restricted circumstances is going to suffer. While Paul James said on the score that MLS Toronto would be competing for the title is 3-5 years and winning it even them is quite a strech given what MLSE is going to have for a roster.

The Rock work thanks to that the players on the Rock are the kind that people would relate themselves to. Policeman, Municipal Workers, Teachers, Businessmen etc. That is what drew the media to the Rock to begin with. Winning may help but it can't be sustained forever and that attachment to the community is what's going to keep people in the stands.

Where did you get the running track from. Not one mention of a track has ever been made.

Toronto has many facilities with running tracks. Thye dont need another one.

I also find your commets on MLSE out of line.

What do you really now about them?

[Franky]

Leafs, i was wondering the same thing to. where does it mention of a track, shi..oot, just have it at Teddydome. Centennial has a track, esther SHiner has a track, Birchmount has a track, there is a track (indoor and outdoor) @ York U.

Heck, Commonwealth Stade has a nice track with 60,000 seats. i nominate Edmonton to host every track and bloody field event that is offered to Canada, get your ducats and enjoy DoyleG. end of story.

Please, no one in their right mind even cares about track and field in this neck of the woods. Athletes that are doped up on performance enhancers (nice touch, ehh) f-k, where i come from, it is just simply 'juice'. spring break they want the rip and the winter, they want the bulk. performance enhancers, pfff, give me a break. B.J. still claims someone spiked his H2O bottle, yah right. it should be called 'Track the Roids'.

[Franky]

btw, that was an enjoyable article, B.K.