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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from CDNFootballer in NASL Adds Oklahoma Club Backed by La Liga Team for 2016-RAYO OKC   
    The NASL seems to hang in there like the proverbial cockroach after nuclear Armageddon. What works in their favour at the moment is that both the Miami and Minnesota MLS expansions have run into stadium issues giving them more time to expand elsewhere to maintain the numbers they need, because that looked like the issue that was most likely to sink them in the short to medium term. Another thing to watch is whether there will be any USL to NASL defections, due to some of the standalone franchises not being keen on the MLS reserve team angle. There are also rumours of the USL being divided into two camps over how to proceed on the D2 sanctioning issue, so the pro soccer landscape could change considerably over the next 12 months.
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    BringBackTheBlizzard reacted to rob.notenboom in Canadian Premier League   
    No McGrane is not the guy. It was a different guy. I forget his name. If I can remember and find the link to his website, I'll post it. Busy at work though, and I'll have to do a bit of a search because it's buried somewhere. But if I can find it, I'll post for sure. 
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from ironcub14 in Canadian Premier League   
    If that's aimed at me, I honestly couldn't care less. As -Hammer- points out above, the survey doesn't explicitly point at the CPL given the next successful soccer club launch in North America wording appears to hint at NASL entry by a single Hamilton based franchise, which is what I have been arguing is the more sensible course of action in a Hamilton context. Why reinvent the wheel with a highly risky pro league launch when there's a D2 league already up and running that is happy to take more Canadian teams? Hamilton should have had a D2 team a long time ago given how long this saga has been dragging on for.
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from GuillermoDelQuarto in Canadian Premier League   
    If that's aimed at me, I honestly couldn't care less. As -Hammer- points out above, the survey doesn't explicitly point at the CPL given the next successful soccer club launch in North America wording appears to hint at NASL entry by a single Hamilton based franchise, which is what I have been arguing is the more sensible course of action in a Hamilton context. Why reinvent the wheel with a highly risky pro league launch when there's a D2 league already up and running that is happy to take more Canadian teams? Hamilton should have had a D2 team a long time ago given how long this saga has been dragging on for.
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from SuperCanuck in Canadian Premier League   
    There has been a sea change on that in the last 30 years. Can remember moving to Canada in the mid-80s and as my first introduction to Canadian society watching one of my cousin's sons playing a youth soccer game at the Croatian club out in the corn fields south of London, Ont. Only one Scottish dude (ancestrally) on the pitch playing for an otherwise Italian team against a Croatian team, because soccer at all levels was still largely about recent immigrants swimming against the tide and doing their own thing with assimilated Canadian kids playing baseball, football and hockey. 
    Nowadays soccer participation is absolutely mainstream where the younger generations are concerned, because things have moved away from the cultural exceptionalism you are referring to, which tended to view our sport as an unCanadian activity to be discouraged and suppressed. Think the key nationalism angle for soccer is the national teams and as long as those are in place, the sport is still a viable vehicle for bolstering national identity. The CWNT seems to get pushed more than the CMNT on that at the moment, maybe because they win more of their games, but a World Cup qualification on the men's side would soon transform that.
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from shamrock in Shaan Hundal   
    Is Klinsmann's point not that players need to have the right mentality to battle through this sort of thing?
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from GuillermoDelQuarto in Canadian Premier League   
    Think the idea they are the brink of folding was spin added by an anti-soccer football/baseball/hockey type journalist. The low attendance is nothing new, so why pay for the preason trip to Scotland if the plug is about to be pulled financially?
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from TRM in Canadian Premier League   
    The NHL sold out to the Yankee dollar back in the 1920s and that hasn't stopped hockey from being a core part of Canadian identity, so I disagree on the first bit. I don't think having national pro sports leagues is in any way pivotal to Canada's ongoing existence. For better or worse, I think you would agree based on the ideal world angle you are highlighting that the three MLS teams are clearly here to stay at this point. That means it is exceedingly unlikely that there is any way back from having teams in USSF sanctioned leagues as the dominant feature on the pro soccer landscape. My argument would be that having their three U-23 development sides as part of a Canadian branded D2 level structure would be the most likely way to get that to work for the development of Canadian players, in the absence of a soccer-friendly billionaire willing to do for the CPL concept what Phil Anschutz and Lamar Hunt did for MLS in ideal world terms.
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from TRM in Canadian Premier League   
    Do you have the tens of millions of dollars required to subsidize what you much prefer until it becomes financially sustainable? Everbody understands why in an ideal world the CPL would be the way to go, but we don't live in an ideal world. Ultimately, the CSA should do what is best for Canadian soccer under the prevailing set of circumstances rather than perpetually chasing the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. I suspect Victor Montagliani will leave that to whoever succeeds him as CSA president now that he has the CONCACAF gig.
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from Free kick in Garber hints at change to 'Canadians as internationals' rule.   
    Go back ten or fifteen years and you will find that people on here were absolutely adamant that MLS would never accept a Canadian team, then it was repeated as an accepted fact that a second one would never be allowed, then it was no way will number three ever get in....If someone is willing to write the cheque and there is a viable stadium deal in a metropolitan area of well over 1 million people like Ottawa, Edmonton or Calgary then it could happen as it in fact almost did previously in Ottawa's case. The Lynx drew flies at D2 level, but that wasn't an issue on getting an MLS team into Toronto, so arguments around crowd sizes in Ottawa and Edmonton ignore past history on how MLS handles matters. MLS is going to expand out to about 32 teams over time, so it could still easily handle an extra Canadian team. Alberta is the obvious niche remaining to be filled in a Candian context. As for the CPL, what are the reputed CFL investors still waiting for at this point, if a 2026 World Cup bid wasn't/isn't involved? I seriously doubt it is even on the radar as a concern at MLS HQ.
     
     
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from Free kick in Garber hints at change to 'Canadians as internationals' rule.   
    What I had in mind was more the officeholders than the coaching staff at the CSA. I agree that the MLS academies have been very positive for elite player development, but how often do you hear Victor Montagliani publicly praising them for that? The whole CPL thing seems to me to be being pushed based on the premise that MLS is deliberately not providing Canadian players with an adequate pathway to a career in pro soccer. My initial argument was that the relative lack of Canadian players in MLS has had more to do with a relatively shallow available playing pool than the issues with the roster regulations that the CSA like to highlight, although the latter definitely is still something that should be fixed.
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from Marc in Canadian Premier League   
    Back in 2007 when TFC first entered the league, I made three trips to away games and was very much of the impression that in NY and Columbus there were under 5000 in attendance. Don't believe the announced numbers you see, they are sometimes massively inflated and even when the numbers are close to legit in terms of spectators watching the game in the stadium there can be lots of freebies and comps involved.
    Since then, MLS has figured out how to get 15,000 to 20,000 paying customers along to most games and that's why there are lots of expansion groups clamouring to get in. The NASL in most cities is still very much on the learning curve, but there are some genuine success stories now at NASL/USL level that suggest that D2 level soccer with air travel can eventually be made to be financially sustainable.
    It would be nice to think that an eight team CPL could get there quickly and not go through ten to fifteen years of heavy financial losses, but the past precedents for it outside the three main MLS markets in Canada are not good. If Salt Lake City and Columbus can make MLS work, why not Edmonton, Calgary or Ottawa, if a billionaire could be found to write the cheques for the expansion fee and stadium?
    Think the Faths are right that they could do a lot better with pro soccer in Edmonton in an SSS, but it sounds like they lack the wealth to make it happen by themselves and that would probably be the big issue with the CPL. There wouldn't be enough investor groups with the wealth and patience to hang in there until it starts to gain traction.
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from ray in Canadian Premier League   
    Do you have the tens of millions of dollars required to subsidize what you much prefer until it becomes financially sustainable? Everbody understands why in an ideal world the CPL would be the way to go, but we don't live in an ideal world. Ultimately, the CSA should do what is best for Canadian soccer under the prevailing set of circumstances rather than perpetually chasing the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. I suspect Victor Montagliani will leave that to whoever succeeds him as CSA president now that he has the CONCACAF gig.
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from Gopherbashi in Canadian Premier League   
    This snippet from Duane Rollins flew under the radar a bit back in February with people preferring to focus on what John McGrane had to say at the city council meeting in Canada, because it was their preferred ideal world option:
    http://www.canadiansoccernews.com/index.php?/page/articles.html/_/24th-minute/solution-to-canadians-as-domestics-issue-coming-in-next-month-montagliani-r5546
    ... Montagliani was also asked about the Canadian Premier League project. He again confirmed that the CSA was talking to investors about creating an “inclusive solution” with current professional teams to create more professional opportunities in Canada. On note, he made reference to the possibility of those opportunities coming in “cross border leagues that we control.”

    Outside of the earliest reporting on the CanPL where the possibility of a partnership with the NASL to create a “Canadian conference” was suggested, that was the first suggestion that anything other than a Canadian only option was being considered.
    Even if an 8 franchise standalone CPL minus most or all of the existing pro teams is likely to be DOA, that hasn't been the only option that Victor Montagliani has made mention of publicly in recent times. A deal with the USL to create a Canadian branded division that included the three MLS reserve teams is one possible option that the two NASL teams could also potentially be persuaded to jump ship to. At that point you need three extra franchises to reach eight markets in the manner that cable broadcasters seem to view as important, with Hamilton already appearing to be likely to be available as the sixth.
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    BringBackTheBlizzard reacted to Gopherbashi in Canadian Premier League   
    In the most reliable news we've had in months, I had a dream last night that the CPL finally announced and were advertising at Yonge & Dundas (so I'm guessing they found some money too).
    Teams were Victoria, Calgary, Edmonton "Fury" (with the FCE logo), Winnipeg, London (team name TBD), Hamilton, Ottawa (no team name), Quebec City, and Moncton - with St. John's "coming soon."
    If I have any more epiphanies I will let you all know.
    Edit: Sadly no mention of the Happy Valley-Goose Bay Happy Geese FC.
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from Free kick in Loss of the National Football Stadium   
    That's the way I remember it as well with the Alouettes. The Rogers Centre is a much better location from a TTC standpoint than BMO Field, so it always looked like wishful thinking to me that people were suddenly going to flock to see the Argos again, if they had not been making the effort in more of a downtown location. Having said that I am still shocked at how poor the Argos crowds have been so far because it was still reasonable to expect a bit of a dead cat bounce effect initially as people went along once to check out what all the hype was about. If the grass holds up OK in October and November, maybe we should be happy that MLSE conned the various layers of government into upgrading the stadium, because I think the canopy has had a positive effect where soccer is concerned by making the east stand a much more pleasant place to watch a game from given that's where the empty seats have always tended to be in TFC broadcasts in years past.
    Will be interesting to see how the Grey Cup does at BMO Field later this year. Steve Simmons seems to think they have massively overpriced it and by the looks of the numbers he is probably right:
    http://www.torontosun.com/2016/07/14/shocking-grey-cup-ticket-prices-show-argos-are-clueless-about-situation-in-toronto
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    BringBackTheBlizzard reacted to BrennanFan in Loss of the National Football Stadium   
    I have no such sympathy for the Argos.
    When the Argos stabbed the CSA in the back and pulled out of the York U Stadium deal in 2005, they could have killed the resurgence of soccer in this country, killed the U20 World Cup bid, killed any chance of MLS coming to Canada.  Did the Argos care or have any sympathy for Canadian soccer then? Fuck No.  
    What goes around comes around.  Do the Argos deserve to die?   
     
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    BringBackTheBlizzard reacted to Free kick in Loss of the National Football Stadium   
    Judging from from i saw on television tonight and from the post games reports that included a reported crowd of 12k, i can conclude with certainty that: 
    The argos need a smaller more intimate venue .  BMO field is too cavernous and too big.   They need a better stadium and cant continue to play at BMO.  They need to move to Centennial.
    On a more serious note.  I have been going to BMO since the facility opened.  I have read things from some people outside TO suggesting the MLSEL padded the numbers in regards to announced crowds for TFC.  But having been there, i  know that what we saw was pretty much what was announced, except for a few exceptions.  Especially for horrible weather days.  Rarely was i ever totally shocked by the announced number.   In a few cases, a bit surprised maybe but it could be accounted for the fact that tickets were sold but there no shows.  Basically, whats reported for TFC is fair or pretty darn close, from what i can tell. 
    But that number for the argos tonight, that was below or close to what TFC would get for those autumn encounters against the unknown central american clubs in midweek first round concacaf champions league matches.  And that was only the argos second game at BMO.
     
    Edit.: sorry, i forgot.   It has to be that the weather was too nice today.  Yup thats the reason. 
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from Free kick in Loss of the National Football Stadium   
    See the Argos only managed 24,000 (announced) for their home opener with several thousand out of that no doubt being Ticats fans. Good to see that their revival is going so well.
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from nolbertos in Canadian Premier League   
    It's always two years over the horizon, basically.
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    BringBackTheBlizzard reacted to JDub in Loss of the National Football Stadium   
    Yes, they did something right.   In their opener at a new stadium they played the Cats.  They then focus on the increase in viewing between Toronto and Hamilton.   Of course there will be in increase in viewing heading towards Hamilton when the Cats are playing vs when the Cats are not playing.  Correct me if I am wrong but the Argos played Edmonton in their opener last year so this is a ridiculous comparison.  They focus on numbers that are obviously going to be inflated to make everything look super duper but fail to mention they couldn't fill their new home on opening night.  
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    BringBackTheBlizzard reacted to 1996 in Loss of the National Football Stadium   
    Look for the amount of media coverage this got, not being able to sell out this game against your rival is not good I don't care how you spin it, and yes I'm bias because I'm not an Argo fan or a CFL fan or an NFL fan and I wish the Argos had moved somewhere else not BMO Field. However, let's admit they should have done better, their president had said that the opener would be a sellout and it was not, he also said that they would sell out most of their home games and now they have not sold out their home opener, he also said they would sell close to 20 000 season tickets and I'm hearing they have only sold 7000.  Moreover, I don't think the Argos warrant all the media attention they still get in Toronto, yes the TV numbers are very good but how many are actually watching in the Toronto area? TFC who have already had 3 sellouts this season don't get close to the media attention the Argos get and they have been averaging over 26000 a game already with hardly any media attention. I mentioned in another thread, TFC played the LA Galaxy a couple of Saturdays ago, in front of a sold out over 30 000 crowd, after the game I listened to the local TSN radio 1050 sports updates right after the game, I listened to 3 different sports updates on that station not once was the score mentioned, how the fuck is that fucken possible can someone fucken tell me?  If no one is in the stands then yes I don't expect them to mention the score I understand but when there are 30 000 people in the stands in a sold out stadium I don't understand! After all that I'm not saying that the Argos can't   get a bit of revival going at BMO and it can  work but it's going to take a lot of work and so far I don't care how you spin it, the season tickets are not what they expected and the opener should have been an easy sellout, so it's not going that good, however, it's still early and it's not a one year thing this is a five year thing so if after five years things have not improved then I would be worried if I was the Argos, however, it's not a good start in my eyes but it's very early still.
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from Gopherbashi in Canadian Premier League   
    It's always two years over the horizon, basically.
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    BringBackTheBlizzard reacted to ted in Canadian Soccer League 2015 & 2016 Seasons   
    It would save time if you just posted all the results now for the rest of the season. That is how this league works, right: pre-determined results for Eastern European bookies fleecing morons who think this is actually a national league.
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from ted in Canadian Premier League   
    It's always two years over the horizon, basically.
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