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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from ironcub14 in Canadian Premier League   
    How interested do you think CFL teams were in investing in Canadian soccer before TFC showed it was possible to draw big crowds and make money on pro soccer in Canada? It's always fundamentally about money and it is naive to think otherwise. 
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    BringBackTheBlizzard reacted to Dub Narcotic in Canadian Premier League   
    I wish the CSA didn't care about Canada the way the USSF doesn't care. The USSF has given us a competitive and sustainable divisions one to four, PDL and NCAA for U-23 development and a credible academy system for U-18 to U-13 as well as supporting the most successful and stable club teams this country has ever seen. The CSA has given us Benito Floro, L10, PLSQ, a corrupt Traffic partnership and looking the other way on the CSL.
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from ted in Canadian Premier League   
    How interested do you think CFL teams were in investing in Canadian soccer before TFC showed it was possible to draw big crowds and make money on pro soccer in Canada? It's always fundamentally about money and it is naive to think otherwise. 
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    BringBackTheBlizzard reacted to ray in Canadian Premier League   
    I don't think Benito needs to convince anyone.  The need for and benefits of a domestic pro league have never been in question; Only the degree to which the the investors, venues and fans exist for the initial start-up and long-term prospects of the league.
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from ironcub14 in RUMOUR: Ottawa Fury to leave NASL?   
    Latest from the guy the guy that broke the rumour.
     
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from ironcub14 in Canadian Premier League   
    Fifteen years back a lot of people on here were adamant that a Canadian team would never be allowed in MLS. Now we have three. A lot of this stuff about the USSF having an anti-Canadian agenda on pro soccer is urban myth more than anything else. They don't have to accept any Canadian teams and if they were out to hurt Canadian soccer would never have let any in. We have a tenth of their population, so are not viewed as a significant threat. Beyond that Puerto Rico legally counts as American and my understanding is that the USSF have given waivers in the past when D2 leagues have had more than 25% Canadian content.
     
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from ironcub14 in Canadian Premier League   
    If that's aimed at me, I honestly couldn't care less. As -Hammer- points out above, the survey doesn't explicitly point at the CPL given the next successful soccer club launch in North America wording appears to hint at NASL entry by a single Hamilton based franchise, which is what I have been arguing is the more sensible course of action in a Hamilton context. Why reinvent the wheel with a highly risky pro league launch when there's a D2 league already up and running that is happy to take more Canadian teams? Hamilton should have had a D2 team a long time ago given how long this saga has been dragging on for.
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from Marc in Jason de Vos named CSA Director of Development   
    Jason DeVos stuck to his guns about what was right in an Ontario context when OPDL and L1O didn't live up to the soccer association rhetoric, so the CSA know they are not hiring a yes man simply looking to cash in on his high media profile. My only question would be whether he has any real influence in this role given the national association is two layers of bureacracy away from the grassroots and each province tends to do its own thing.
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from ironcub14 in Canadian Premier League   
    That's the PDL level you are thinking of. USL D3 has been consistently blocked with the sole exception of the three reserve teams. FC London and the Victoria Highlanders both expressed interest in moving up to D3 shortly before the moratorium was imposed and I think there was even talk of a team in Hamilton separate from the TFC attempt to have the Lynx there as their affiliated B team.
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    BringBackTheBlizzard reacted to TRM in Canadian Premier League   
    The CSA have not allowed soccer teams to form and join existing leagues like USL Pro. That is a monumental waste of time. They have not made any promises but they have blocked expansion while producing absolutely nothing. Sorry but my patience ran out long long ago.
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    BringBackTheBlizzard reacted to Dub Narcotic in Canadian Premier League   
    The CSA needs to rescind the USL ban yesterday. It may still be possible for a Calgary to get something in for next year. Barring a miracle, this whole CPL debacle and D3 sanctioning ban has been a colossal mistake that has set Canadian club football back three years and counting.
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from TRM in Floro Must Go   
    Why not wait for Wednesday before holding post mortems? Honduras and El Salvador don't like each other very much and have even fought a short war in the aftermath of an international soccer game:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_War
    Stranger things have happened like TFC winning the Canadian Championship in Montreal when everybody thought it was a foregone conclusion for the Whitecaps, because the Impact weren't motivated for the game.
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from Dub Narcotic in Canadian Premier League   
    Interesting exchanges happening on twitter at the moment:
    This weekend was when the CPL business plan was going to be voted on at a CSA general meeting, so looks like that particular saga is drawing to a close without even getting as far as the CUSL did.
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from jedinathan in RUMOUR: Ottawa Fury to leave NASL?   
    This blog provides a good summary of where things stand for the NASL at the moment:
    http://fiftyfive.one/2016/09/the-damage-has-been-done/
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    BringBackTheBlizzard reacted to Big_M in Canadian Premier League   
    Enough waiting, enough talk about something that just might happen in 3-5 years. Cities that are ready to go pro in the next couple of years should start in usl or nasl until this materializes. The city of Hamilton needs to give the soccer rights in the stadium to another group if the Tiger-Cats group can't get a professional team going by 2018. No more extensions, no more wasting time.
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from Marc in Loss of the National Football Stadium   
    The Argos were huge in Toronto up to the mid-70s when the Jays emerged, which neatly fits that argument. Beyond that there is a big difference between a forward line led by Andy Welsh and one led by Sebastian Giovinco and that sort of progress means that TFC and MLS can't be viewed as being static in entertainment value terms in the way that the CFL is, so it isn't safe to assume MLS is always going to remain a niche attraction even among Canadian soccer fans rather than reaching the mainstream numbers that European Championships and World Cups can attract. Won't happen overnight, but I suspect TSN and others will have no problem using MLS as scheduling filler content in the mean time. There are so many more cable channels now than there were back in the 1980s when the CSL was trying to make headway with rosters that were largely semi-pro level.
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    BringBackTheBlizzard reacted to theaub in Loss of the National Football Stadium   
    My thoughts
    - As a SSH for both teams, the Argos have come off as comparably bush league and its not even close.  Failure to return calls for weeks because the voicemail system is always full, no e-mail system for ticket purchases or questions (fun fact: if you try to contact the Argos helpdesk via e-mail on Ticketmaster it actually bounces back because the e-mail address doesn't exist), a complete lack of season ticket benefits etc.  I purchased Grey Cup tickets in June and although I diligently attempted to contact the team at least once per week since then, I only found out where my seat location was last week.  As someone who has seasons for every major Toronto sports team, their customer service is nothing short of a disaster, which is extremely disappointing when they are, frankly, on the fringes of the sports scene in the city.  At this point I can relatively accept being ignored by the Leafs/Raps/Jays reps, but the two where I wouldn't accept it are TFC and the Argos.  I gave up my TFC seasons after 2011 because of it (bought back in this year for a variety of reasons and I will say I have been treated very well), but I would highly doubt I renew my Argos seasons. 
    - I will also continue to think the TFC 'hate' of the Argos had/has less to do with the team or their fans than the small number of MSM people (a couple newspaper writers, Norm Kelly etc) who came out like big swinging dicks when the Argos moved across and made it like the Argos would run roughshod over the existing tenants.  This has clearly not been the case (in point: Argos tickets were going pre-fees for $8 USD on Stubhub for Saturday's game...there is not a single ticket on the site for less than $50 USD for the Montreal match this Saturday).  
    - I don't fear the viability of the Argos since TSN will prop them up as necessary, but it is quite shocking how little of an impact the move has had.  I would have assumed at the start of the year that the last game, on a Saturday afternoon, with the Ex on, and the Jays out of town, would have been virtually a lock to sell-out.  That the team had an "attendance" of 15K is extremely worrying.  The Argos have spent a lot of money on marketing, but they just...don't offer an inspiring product.  Tailgating without alcohol is not real tailgating (and that it costs nearly 2x as much to park here than it does in Buffalo for a real tailgate is ridiculous) and the team is terrible.  TFC will always have an inherent marketing advantage since its way easier to market kids to a sport they play, but the numbers don't lie...TFC will likely draw 20K+ to every game, and the Argos will likely fail to draw 20K+ to every game outside of the opener.  I will hold out my thoughts on TV ratings until the CFL provides a true local breakdown by market to show me the Argos TV numbers are truly that much better in the GTA.
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from Ivan in Loss of the National Football Stadium   
    MLS seems to be doing just fine in a lot of NFL markets, so think that's a red herring. If I hold any lingering bitterness over this stuff, it's over the way that the Argos killed the York Stadium deal when as Kevan Pipe put it at the time there was no plan B. They clearly didn't care about soccer then and looked after numero uno, so why should we lose any sleep over them now? What goes around come around in only caring about your own sport. Beyond that if the Argos were likely to actually succeed at BMO Field it would be more difficult to criticize their presence, but it always looked like a doomed venture to me given it is a less favourable location than the Rogers Centre where the TTC is concerned. The only surprise is that they didn't get a few sellouts initally from people who were curious to see what the fuss was all about.
    The $20 million thing definitely looks a bit far fetched for a team with a $5 million salary cap, but it's difficult to be sure without seeing the details of the lease. Maybe fixed one-off costs related to their share of the stadium upgrade are factored in on that number and it's where the new ownership will be overall at the end of year one? Even if 18,000 is break even moving forward, they probably only start to generate significant revenue above a certain number where fixed costs start to get covered and will soon be drowning in red ink if they can't move beyond that in terms of paid as opposed to announced attendance. Converting back and forth from soccer to CFL won't be cheap and I seriously doubt MLSE is picking up the tab for that, and MLSE and the City of Toronto will still be getting the stadium naming rights money and a lot of the concessions revenues making it a less favourable stadium deal than elsewhere in the CFL where the CFL tends to be the favoured anchor tenant.
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from Ivanovski94 in FC Edmonton 2016 Season   
    People need to remember that it was a slow build in Montreal with the Impact at the D2 level before the five figure crowds started to happen and MLS expansion with an SSS became the obvious next step. If the Faths are patient and willing to take the financial hit in a similar manner to the Saputos, good things can happen eventually. Their ability to put a winning team on the field with no big names (unlike the Cosmos and Miami FC) and with significant Canadian content is a positive for them and shows they are not flogging a dead horse. 
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from GuillermoDelQuarto in FC Edmonton 2016 Season   
    People need to remember that it was a slow build in Montreal with the Impact at the D2 level before the five figure crowds started to happen and MLS expansion with an SSS became the obvious next step. If the Faths are patient and willing to take the financial hit in a similar manner to the Saputos, good things can happen eventually. Their ability to put a winning team on the field with no big names (unlike the Cosmos and Miami FC) and with significant Canadian content is a positive for them and shows they are not flogging a dead horse. 
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from Marc in London City relocates to Hamilton   
    London City were around for a long time. What AvrowArrow wrote reflects how things tended to be when the Gauss family were running things. Most top players in London found the lack of payments from City (they were basically an amateur team) and heavy travelling up and down the 401 that was involved off-putting and preferred to play in WOSL premier. FC London have done a better job of getting top London area players on board.
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from Marc in London City relocates to Hamilton   
    Or on the bright side it could force them to actually do something a little more concrete than leak info through obscure soccer blogs and city council meetings? An L1O entry would be a good start, for example.
    Think it was always on the cards that this would happen eventually after the London City franchise got sold to somebody from Hamilton. City grew out of the London German Canadians that are still active in London amateur soccer after they initially were London's team in the NSL, but in recent years haven't been playing at the German Club or "Cove Road Field" as it was referred to in a City context.
    The Gauss family (who I think were really from Vojvodina in Serbia originally rather than Stuttgart, although I vaguely remember being told that City's red and white colours were inspired by VfB Stuttgart) sold the NSL franchise to Marconi in the 1980s, so there wasn't an ongoing continuity from the early 1970s despite what was often claimed.
    When City was started back up again at the NSL level in 1990 in opposition to the launch of the London Lasers of the CSL it never really generated a following in London's soccer community but stumbled along from year to year regardless often with a team that would have struggled in London's top local amateur league. The arrival of FC London eventually killed off the local media interest that they used to be able to generate, so I doubt they will be missed by many people.
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from Pqhbv in FC Edmonton 2016 Season   
    People need to remember that it was a slow build in Montreal with the Impact at the D2 level before the five figure crowds started to happen and MLS expansion with an SSS became the obvious next step. If the Faths are patient and willing to take the financial hit in a similar manner to the Saputos, good things can happen eventually. Their ability to put a winning team on the field with no big names (unlike the Cosmos and Miami FC) and with significant Canadian content is a positive for them and shows they are not flogging a dead horse. 
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from maccaliam in FC Edmonton 2016 Season   
    People need to remember that it was a slow build in Montreal with the Impact at the D2 level before the five figure crowds started to happen and MLS expansion with an SSS became the obvious next step. If the Faths are patient and willing to take the financial hit in a similar manner to the Saputos, good things can happen eventually. Their ability to put a winning team on the field with no big names (unlike the Cosmos and Miami FC) and with significant Canadian content is a positive for them and shows they are not flogging a dead horse. 
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    BringBackTheBlizzard got a reaction from jedinathan in FC Edmonton 2016 Season   
    People need to remember that it was a slow build in Montreal with the Impact at the D2 level before the five figure crowds started to happen and MLS expansion with an SSS became the obvious next step. If the Faths are patient and willing to take the financial hit in a similar manner to the Saputos, good things can happen eventually. Their ability to put a winning team on the field with no big names (unlike the Cosmos and Miami FC) and with significant Canadian content is a positive for them and shows they are not flogging a dead horse. 
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