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    The Beaver 2.0 reacted to spitfire in Camp Poutine 2021 @ IMG in Florida Jan 9 -24   
    You’re  a joker.

    And for the record Liam played in 2020 in the FA cup for Liverpool FC 
    Then I don’t know if you heard but the world had a pandemic and the premier league shut down for 4 months... he tried to get out on loan it didn’t work in the fall so he played PL2 getting nominated for player of the month 2 out of the 3 months and became Captain of the u23s which helped him grow as a player.

    This has never been about slack or me being a parent I can count 5/6 times u have had a personal issue with Liam and are always the first to call him out... but u don’t have the balls to admit it’s personal. 
     
    I am always happy for the success of other players tbh I celebrate it. It can only make Canada better  but I can’t and won’t take baseless bullshit and bashing for personal reasons. And that applies to all Canadian players. 
     
    Tabla is a very talent player that is on his own pathway let’s give him time to sort it out.. this world needs more positivity and less asshole.s
    Let’s hope the camp goes ahead we need the games ...
     
    I’m out...

     
     
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    The Beaver 2.0 reacted to Obinna in Liam Millar   
    Players develop at different rates, let's keep in mind.
    Hoilett was scoring in the Premier League at 21, sure, but that 7 goal season was arguably his best. Since then his best season in the Premier League was 3 goals, and he's been relegated to the Championship on multiple occasions. He's in the Championship right now. Hard not to look at his 7 goal season with Blackburn as the highlight. Don't get me wrong, he's had a very solid career, especially for a concacaf player, but his overall trajectory has been downward after 21 years old, and it's not like he had an injury to derail him. It's a little odd, but that's just how he turned out.
    Larin at 21 years old was scoring tons of goals at Orlando, and he has yet to break his 17 goal record he set as a rookie. His other seasons in MLS were impressive, but every season he scored less and less. However, this season he looks on pace to break 17 goals, and before that he had a rebound loan after a very disappointing 2 years at Besiktas. His trajectory is looking more like a "U" right now.  
    Point being, we don't know how things will play out, so where he is at 21 compared to other players doesn't necessarily mean anything.
    Millar could go kick on from here to be an absolute stud and be on his way to being 3rd best young player in the pool behind Davies or David, or he could struggle to make an impact and never get a run in the Premier League. Maybe it'll be somewhere in between. He'll just have to take it one day at a time, and so will we while we hope for the best and support him. I think he has the talent to be that 3rd guy. 
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    The Beaver 2.0 got a reaction from Club Linesman in Cyle Larin   
    I get your point, but I am not convinced anyone was arguing for Ricketts. Love the guy and I am thankful for his dedication to the national team, but who was ever arguing for Ricketts?
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    The Beaver 2.0 got a reaction from MtlMario in Cyle Larin   
    I get your point, but I am not convinced anyone was arguing for Ricketts. Love the guy and I am thankful for his dedication to the national team, but who was ever arguing for Ricketts?
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    The Beaver 2.0 got a reaction from Bertuzzi44 in Ralph Priso   
    Begs the question: What was the other chat site? 😉
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    The Beaver 2.0 reacted to Gian-Luca in Ralph Priso   
    For a second I thought I was making my normal Freudian slip every time I see a listing for that movie "Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them" I always see "Fantastic Breasts and Where to Find Them" and then realize my mistake. But no, in this case my eyesight is correct.

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    The Beaver 2.0 reacted to Bison44 in Ballou Tabla   
    Tabla scores in extra time.  He really needed that to get us to shut up about his mental state etc.  
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    The Beaver 2.0 got a reaction from Trois Reds in Ballou Tabla   
    And because this is how things often happen, I was just scanning the CBC.ca homepage for news on the damned virus and I came across  this article about giftedness, written by someone who has struggled because of expectations associated with that term, among other things:
    https://www.cbc.ca/parents/learning/view/i-grew-up-gifted-but-my-life-didnt-turn-out-the-way-i-expected
     
     
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    The Beaver 2.0 got a reaction from Trois Reds in Ballou Tabla   
    Hard to say what is really going on with Ballou, but I wonder if his situation is akin to that of my son, or any other kid who is diagnosed as "Gifted". Gifted people have significantly higher IQs (they test in the top 98th, 99th percentiles in several cognitive areas) than that of the average population, but as they and their peers age, the intellectual advantages of being Gifted tend to narrow, not because the Gifted kid has experienced a decline in raw intellectual ability but because other factors start to become more important to an individual's success, things like work habits, social and familial support, organizational tools and raw desire. In short, average smart kids--i.e. not Gifted kids--who have a passion for a subject and work hard tend to perform as well, if not better than, Gifted kids who could give a rats ass about a subject or who've never developed the work habits and org. skills. And what happens to these Gifted kids who find out, usually in high school, that they actually have to work hard to get what they want? Well, they start to think they aren't really smart, and their self-esteem plummets.  For their entire lives they've equated intelligence with the relative ease with which they can understand concepts and develop skills. We did not teach our son to read: We read to him all the time and one day he started reading to us. He was only 4 and a half!
    If this gives us any insight into a player like Ballou, then what might it say? If Ballou had been the most talented player in his age group for many years, and then touted as some sort of generational talent, with guys like Drogba blowing sunshine up his ass, and then he turns pro and discovers he's mostly riding the pine, heads to Barca where he is but one of many, many talented young players, and then he sees little game time over the two or three years he is in Spain, I would imagine that his self-esteem took several kicks in the teeth.  And while we all know that the only way for Ballou to turn things around is for him to accept the fact that dedication and hard work are vital to success, anyone who preaches this to him will only highlight--in his mind--that maybe he was not talented enough from the beginning. When I look at my son and his struggles, or from what I read about other Gifted kids, the way forward is all about finding one's passion and then building a framework to pursue that passion.  Hard work is not really hard work when you love what you are doing and you understand the purpose of that hard work.  Again, not knowing Ballou's psychology at all, it seems to me that he doesn't really want a career in football. Maybe he was good as a kid but his real passion lies somewhere else.  Hell, I am brilliant at customer service but I do not want a career as a retail clerk. (Done that. I was damned good. Never again.)
    If choosing Canada over the Ivory Coast plays into this in any way, then my assumption is that Ballou lost confidence in himself and picked Canada because he felt the IC was out of reach.  It makes no sense to me that choosing Canada and giving up on the IC was the cause of his current situation.  That seems assbackwards, does it not? 
    Ballou reminds me of Wynn Belotte in this instance. But I've a feeling that Ballou can still turn this around, if only because whereas Belotte seemed to be a raging egomaniac I suspect Ballou is a deeply introspective, introverted type (my people!), which means that it is far more likely that Ballou will accept reality (i.e. hard work and dedication = success).  But it will come down to one thing: does he really want it? Those who enjoy sustained success tend to exhibit a mindset that might seem at odds with itself but that has far too many shining examples to ignore: one must be humble about what they are doing AND simultaneously audacious about their ability to achieve their goals. Look at Davies.  He is full of humility and audacity, at the same time.  He is driven, passionate AND hard working and humble. I suspect Ballou has been humbled, but now he needs to understand the importance of humility (i.e. you don't know shit so pay attention to your coaches and work hard and develop good habits) while he also believes he can be a superstar. I wonder, too, if he has the right support system. I wish him well, in whatever he chooses to do. I hope it is football.
     
     
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    The Beaver 2.0 reacted to costarg in Ballou Tabla   
    Showed well in 35 minutes vs Philly last night. Drew fouls like the D-men knew he was dangerous.  Moved the ball nicely, looked confident, put in honest defensive work.  I want to say we're starting to see it, but I'll wait a little while.  
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    The Beaver 2.0 got a reaction from The Real Marc in Ballou Tabla   
    Great insight! You see this too with kids heading off to the big city for university, straight out of high school. One of my classmates in high school got a great scholarship to a university 500 miles from home, in a big city, at a point in her life when she'd never been away from her family for more than two weeks at any time. She wasn't a super shy person, but reserved enough that she struggled to adapt to her new environment and returned home after one term, never to return to university again.  The big questions: Was she simply not ready? Or would she have ever been ready?  
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    The Beaver 2.0 got a reaction from yothat2 in Ballou Tabla   
    Yes, and to help build work habits and an understanding of what it means to be a professional. Confidence is key, especially for a guy like Ballou who seems more reserved and introverted. 
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    The Beaver 2.0 got a reaction from MtlMario in Ballou Tabla   
    And because this is how things often happen, I was just scanning the CBC.ca homepage for news on the damned virus and I came across  this article about giftedness, written by someone who has struggled because of expectations associated with that term, among other things:
    https://www.cbc.ca/parents/learning/view/i-grew-up-gifted-but-my-life-didnt-turn-out-the-way-i-expected
     
     
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    The Beaver 2.0 got a reaction from MtlMario in Ballou Tabla   
    Hard to say what is really going on with Ballou, but I wonder if his situation is akin to that of my son, or any other kid who is diagnosed as "Gifted". Gifted people have significantly higher IQs (they test in the top 98th, 99th percentiles in several cognitive areas) than that of the average population, but as they and their peers age, the intellectual advantages of being Gifted tend to narrow, not because the Gifted kid has experienced a decline in raw intellectual ability but because other factors start to become more important to an individual's success, things like work habits, social and familial support, organizational tools and raw desire. In short, average smart kids--i.e. not Gifted kids--who have a passion for a subject and work hard tend to perform as well, if not better than, Gifted kids who could give a rats ass about a subject or who've never developed the work habits and org. skills. And what happens to these Gifted kids who find out, usually in high school, that they actually have to work hard to get what they want? Well, they start to think they aren't really smart, and their self-esteem plummets.  For their entire lives they've equated intelligence with the relative ease with which they can understand concepts and develop skills. We did not teach our son to read: We read to him all the time and one day he started reading to us. He was only 4 and a half!
    If this gives us any insight into a player like Ballou, then what might it say? If Ballou had been the most talented player in his age group for many years, and then touted as some sort of generational talent, with guys like Drogba blowing sunshine up his ass, and then he turns pro and discovers he's mostly riding the pine, heads to Barca where he is but one of many, many talented young players, and then he sees little game time over the two or three years he is in Spain, I would imagine that his self-esteem took several kicks in the teeth.  And while we all know that the only way for Ballou to turn things around is for him to accept the fact that dedication and hard work are vital to success, anyone who preaches this to him will only highlight--in his mind--that maybe he was not talented enough from the beginning. When I look at my son and his struggles, or from what I read about other Gifted kids, the way forward is all about finding one's passion and then building a framework to pursue that passion.  Hard work is not really hard work when you love what you are doing and you understand the purpose of that hard work.  Again, not knowing Ballou's psychology at all, it seems to me that he doesn't really want a career in football. Maybe he was good as a kid but his real passion lies somewhere else.  Hell, I am brilliant at customer service but I do not want a career as a retail clerk. (Done that. I was damned good. Never again.)
    If choosing Canada over the Ivory Coast plays into this in any way, then my assumption is that Ballou lost confidence in himself and picked Canada because he felt the IC was out of reach.  It makes no sense to me that choosing Canada and giving up on the IC was the cause of his current situation.  That seems assbackwards, does it not? 
    Ballou reminds me of Wynn Belotte in this instance. But I've a feeling that Ballou can still turn this around, if only because whereas Belotte seemed to be a raging egomaniac I suspect Ballou is a deeply introspective, introverted type (my people!), which means that it is far more likely that Ballou will accept reality (i.e. hard work and dedication = success).  But it will come down to one thing: does he really want it? Those who enjoy sustained success tend to exhibit a mindset that might seem at odds with itself but that has far too many shining examples to ignore: one must be humble about what they are doing AND simultaneously audacious about their ability to achieve their goals. Look at Davies.  He is full of humility and audacity, at the same time.  He is driven, passionate AND hard working and humble. I suspect Ballou has been humbled, but now he needs to understand the importance of humility (i.e. you don't know shit so pay attention to your coaches and work hard and develop good habits) while he also believes he can be a superstar. I wonder, too, if he has the right support system. I wish him well, in whatever he chooses to do. I hope it is football.
     
     
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    The Beaver 2.0 got a reaction from Obinna in Ballou Tabla   
    Perhaps! Again, I don't really know his personal life, but family plays a big role in the lives of young people too.  And one cannot ignore the power of personality. Davies and Tabla do not have the same personality by any stretch of the imagination.  
    As the legendary Vancouver business tycoon Jimmy Pattison always says: "You gotta wanna."
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    The Beaver 2.0 got a reaction from Kadenge in Ballou Tabla   
    Perhaps! Again, I don't really know his personal life, but family plays a big role in the lives of young people too.  And one cannot ignore the power of personality. Davies and Tabla do not have the same personality by any stretch of the imagination.  
    As the legendary Vancouver business tycoon Jimmy Pattison always says: "You gotta wanna."
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    The Beaver 2.0 got a reaction from HochelagaFC in Ballou Tabla   
    Hard to say what is really going on with Ballou, but I wonder if his situation is akin to that of my son, or any other kid who is diagnosed as "Gifted". Gifted people have significantly higher IQs (they test in the top 98th, 99th percentiles in several cognitive areas) than that of the average population, but as they and their peers age, the intellectual advantages of being Gifted tend to narrow, not because the Gifted kid has experienced a decline in raw intellectual ability but because other factors start to become more important to an individual's success, things like work habits, social and familial support, organizational tools and raw desire. In short, average smart kids--i.e. not Gifted kids--who have a passion for a subject and work hard tend to perform as well, if not better than, Gifted kids who could give a rats ass about a subject or who've never developed the work habits and org. skills. And what happens to these Gifted kids who find out, usually in high school, that they actually have to work hard to get what they want? Well, they start to think they aren't really smart, and their self-esteem plummets.  For their entire lives they've equated intelligence with the relative ease with which they can understand concepts and develop skills. We did not teach our son to read: We read to him all the time and one day he started reading to us. He was only 4 and a half!
    If this gives us any insight into a player like Ballou, then what might it say? If Ballou had been the most talented player in his age group for many years, and then touted as some sort of generational talent, with guys like Drogba blowing sunshine up his ass, and then he turns pro and discovers he's mostly riding the pine, heads to Barca where he is but one of many, many talented young players, and then he sees little game time over the two or three years he is in Spain, I would imagine that his self-esteem took several kicks in the teeth.  And while we all know that the only way for Ballou to turn things around is for him to accept the fact that dedication and hard work are vital to success, anyone who preaches this to him will only highlight--in his mind--that maybe he was not talented enough from the beginning. When I look at my son and his struggles, or from what I read about other Gifted kids, the way forward is all about finding one's passion and then building a framework to pursue that passion.  Hard work is not really hard work when you love what you are doing and you understand the purpose of that hard work.  Again, not knowing Ballou's psychology at all, it seems to me that he doesn't really want a career in football. Maybe he was good as a kid but his real passion lies somewhere else.  Hell, I am brilliant at customer service but I do not want a career as a retail clerk. (Done that. I was damned good. Never again.)
    If choosing Canada over the Ivory Coast plays into this in any way, then my assumption is that Ballou lost confidence in himself and picked Canada because he felt the IC was out of reach.  It makes no sense to me that choosing Canada and giving up on the IC was the cause of his current situation.  That seems assbackwards, does it not? 
    Ballou reminds me of Wynn Belotte in this instance. But I've a feeling that Ballou can still turn this around, if only because whereas Belotte seemed to be a raging egomaniac I suspect Ballou is a deeply introspective, introverted type (my people!), which means that it is far more likely that Ballou will accept reality (i.e. hard work and dedication = success).  But it will come down to one thing: does he really want it? Those who enjoy sustained success tend to exhibit a mindset that might seem at odds with itself but that has far too many shining examples to ignore: one must be humble about what they are doing AND simultaneously audacious about their ability to achieve their goals. Look at Davies.  He is full of humility and audacity, at the same time.  He is driven, passionate AND hard working and humble. I suspect Ballou has been humbled, but now he needs to understand the importance of humility (i.e. you don't know shit so pay attention to your coaches and work hard and develop good habits) while he also believes he can be a superstar. I wonder, too, if he has the right support system. I wish him well, in whatever he chooses to do. I hope it is football.
     
     
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    The Beaver 2.0 got a reaction from The Real Marc in Ballou Tabla   
    Hard to say what is really going on with Ballou, but I wonder if his situation is akin to that of my son, or any other kid who is diagnosed as "Gifted". Gifted people have significantly higher IQs (they test in the top 98th, 99th percentiles in several cognitive areas) than that of the average population, but as they and their peers age, the intellectual advantages of being Gifted tend to narrow, not because the Gifted kid has experienced a decline in raw intellectual ability but because other factors start to become more important to an individual's success, things like work habits, social and familial support, organizational tools and raw desire. In short, average smart kids--i.e. not Gifted kids--who have a passion for a subject and work hard tend to perform as well, if not better than, Gifted kids who could give a rats ass about a subject or who've never developed the work habits and org. skills. And what happens to these Gifted kids who find out, usually in high school, that they actually have to work hard to get what they want? Well, they start to think they aren't really smart, and their self-esteem plummets.  For their entire lives they've equated intelligence with the relative ease with which they can understand concepts and develop skills. We did not teach our son to read: We read to him all the time and one day he started reading to us. He was only 4 and a half!
    If this gives us any insight into a player like Ballou, then what might it say? If Ballou had been the most talented player in his age group for many years, and then touted as some sort of generational talent, with guys like Drogba blowing sunshine up his ass, and then he turns pro and discovers he's mostly riding the pine, heads to Barca where he is but one of many, many talented young players, and then he sees little game time over the two or three years he is in Spain, I would imagine that his self-esteem took several kicks in the teeth.  And while we all know that the only way for Ballou to turn things around is for him to accept the fact that dedication and hard work are vital to success, anyone who preaches this to him will only highlight--in his mind--that maybe he was not talented enough from the beginning. When I look at my son and his struggles, or from what I read about other Gifted kids, the way forward is all about finding one's passion and then building a framework to pursue that passion.  Hard work is not really hard work when you love what you are doing and you understand the purpose of that hard work.  Again, not knowing Ballou's psychology at all, it seems to me that he doesn't really want a career in football. Maybe he was good as a kid but his real passion lies somewhere else.  Hell, I am brilliant at customer service but I do not want a career as a retail clerk. (Done that. I was damned good. Never again.)
    If choosing Canada over the Ivory Coast plays into this in any way, then my assumption is that Ballou lost confidence in himself and picked Canada because he felt the IC was out of reach.  It makes no sense to me that choosing Canada and giving up on the IC was the cause of his current situation.  That seems assbackwards, does it not? 
    Ballou reminds me of Wynn Belotte in this instance. But I've a feeling that Ballou can still turn this around, if only because whereas Belotte seemed to be a raging egomaniac I suspect Ballou is a deeply introspective, introverted type (my people!), which means that it is far more likely that Ballou will accept reality (i.e. hard work and dedication = success).  But it will come down to one thing: does he really want it? Those who enjoy sustained success tend to exhibit a mindset that might seem at odds with itself but that has far too many shining examples to ignore: one must be humble about what they are doing AND simultaneously audacious about their ability to achieve their goals. Look at Davies.  He is full of humility and audacity, at the same time.  He is driven, passionate AND hard working and humble. I suspect Ballou has been humbled, but now he needs to understand the importance of humility (i.e. you don't know shit so pay attention to your coaches and work hard and develop good habits) while he also believes he can be a superstar. I wonder, too, if he has the right support system. I wish him well, in whatever he chooses to do. I hope it is football.
     
     
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    The Beaver 2.0 got a reaction from Obinna in Ballou Tabla   
    Hard to say what is really going on with Ballou, but I wonder if his situation is akin to that of my son, or any other kid who is diagnosed as "Gifted". Gifted people have significantly higher IQs (they test in the top 98th, 99th percentiles in several cognitive areas) than that of the average population, but as they and their peers age, the intellectual advantages of being Gifted tend to narrow, not because the Gifted kid has experienced a decline in raw intellectual ability but because other factors start to become more important to an individual's success, things like work habits, social and familial support, organizational tools and raw desire. In short, average smart kids--i.e. not Gifted kids--who have a passion for a subject and work hard tend to perform as well, if not better than, Gifted kids who could give a rats ass about a subject or who've never developed the work habits and org. skills. And what happens to these Gifted kids who find out, usually in high school, that they actually have to work hard to get what they want? Well, they start to think they aren't really smart, and their self-esteem plummets.  For their entire lives they've equated intelligence with the relative ease with which they can understand concepts and develop skills. We did not teach our son to read: We read to him all the time and one day he started reading to us. He was only 4 and a half!
    If this gives us any insight into a player like Ballou, then what might it say? If Ballou had been the most talented player in his age group for many years, and then touted as some sort of generational talent, with guys like Drogba blowing sunshine up his ass, and then he turns pro and discovers he's mostly riding the pine, heads to Barca where he is but one of many, many talented young players, and then he sees little game time over the two or three years he is in Spain, I would imagine that his self-esteem took several kicks in the teeth.  And while we all know that the only way for Ballou to turn things around is for him to accept the fact that dedication and hard work are vital to success, anyone who preaches this to him will only highlight--in his mind--that maybe he was not talented enough from the beginning. When I look at my son and his struggles, or from what I read about other Gifted kids, the way forward is all about finding one's passion and then building a framework to pursue that passion.  Hard work is not really hard work when you love what you are doing and you understand the purpose of that hard work.  Again, not knowing Ballou's psychology at all, it seems to me that he doesn't really want a career in football. Maybe he was good as a kid but his real passion lies somewhere else.  Hell, I am brilliant at customer service but I do not want a career as a retail clerk. (Done that. I was damned good. Never again.)
    If choosing Canada over the Ivory Coast plays into this in any way, then my assumption is that Ballou lost confidence in himself and picked Canada because he felt the IC was out of reach.  It makes no sense to me that choosing Canada and giving up on the IC was the cause of his current situation.  That seems assbackwards, does it not? 
    Ballou reminds me of Wynn Belotte in this instance. But I've a feeling that Ballou can still turn this around, if only because whereas Belotte seemed to be a raging egomaniac I suspect Ballou is a deeply introspective, introverted type (my people!), which means that it is far more likely that Ballou will accept reality (i.e. hard work and dedication = success).  But it will come down to one thing: does he really want it? Those who enjoy sustained success tend to exhibit a mindset that might seem at odds with itself but that has far too many shining examples to ignore: one must be humble about what they are doing AND simultaneously audacious about their ability to achieve their goals. Look at Davies.  He is full of humility and audacity, at the same time.  He is driven, passionate AND hard working and humble. I suspect Ballou has been humbled, but now he needs to understand the importance of humility (i.e. you don't know shit so pay attention to your coaches and work hard and develop good habits) while he also believes he can be a superstar. I wonder, too, if he has the right support system. I wish him well, in whatever he chooses to do. I hope it is football.
     
     
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    The Beaver 2.0 reacted to SpursFlu in Ballou Tabla   
    I think the observations above are interesting and very accurate. I think thats why its important for young players in many cases to spend a lengthy period of time in 1 professional environment surrounded by positive mentors and consistenly playing. It doesn't have to be the most glamorous league but its great for confidence and building that foundation 
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    The Beaver 2.0 reacted to Bison44 in Ballou Tabla   
    So he throws away his shot at Barca because of feeling let down choosing Canada??  Thats a very strange conclusion to draw.  Either way...he's 21, he should be getting his head screwed on straight by now and needs to buckle down or he wont even be a pro soccer player.  That should be something to keep him motivated.  
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    The Beaver 2.0 got a reaction from Cheeta in The Importance of Alphonso Davies   
    Not sure if I was watching the same broadcast but I was getting Bear Grylls and Arnold Schwartzenoogie
     
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