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  1. I wrote this. The issue with the CanPrem drafting from CIS is there would be limited players for a number reason. First CIS is five years of eligibility oppose to four in NCAA so players graduate later but also the graduation rate each year is from 15%-25% of players oppose to NCAA where its 20%-30% Other issue is about 15% of players in CIS are not Canadian they are foreign students at those schools and of that 15% they are usually among the top players So a draft could be held from CIS, CCAA and NCAA but the amount of quality players would be limited. Which brings up the bigger question of how much Canadian talent there is in mens soccer. From my work and research in player development Canada creates about 2 a year with 5 players on high side of MLS/European quality (by quality I mean players who last longer then one contract in the league) We develop about 10 to 20 players a year who could be NASL/USL quality (Not all players who play for TFC2, Whitecaps 2 or FC Montreal are NASL/USL quality.) I can probably develop a list of 50 players per calendar year where a player would be regarded higher then a rec player and deserves an opportunity at least to play in a competitive environment although I would say about 95% of players who are given an opportunity but don't last beyond a season the reason is justified compared to players he is up against. This is one of the reason I suggested that the CanPrem be more semi-pro because it would mean that the Canadian players would get solid minutes and it would also allow players currently in school to join the club and not lose his NCAA eligibility. I do see these numbers improving over time but not drastically I have enough information where I can fairly accurately predict future Canadian MLS/USL players for the next four/five years. The outliers being Ontario because they are being very quit especially TFC regarding player development. Other places such as Saskatchewan, Manitoba, and Maritimes lack information to fully understand what level they are at although based on history I know the amount of quality players coming from these areas are limited although a CanPrem club located in these areas should improve the quality of player and awareness of them.
  2. A real success story of grass roots soccer in a comparable market Detroit City FC - http://home.detcityfc.com/news_article/show/612553?referrer_id=1533258 Not included in the article are tickets only $10 each yet the club is estimated to make over $200,000 in profit this year. Video of the game day experience: https://t.co/xKAQ1D2PJx
  3. The increase in NASL attendance solely has to do with the new expansion teams and the attendance they generated from San Antonio, Ottawa, to Indy, to Jacksonville the other NASL team attendance has been basically the same each season. Tampa Bay is the only team that has a steady rise from 4,000-5,500. Gate example you have 5,000 a game at average $20 a ticket that is $100,000, in the case of 8,000 would be $160,000, I was looking at a 20 game schedule, 8 clubs, 4 in east, 4 in west, one home game against opposite division, two home games vs teams in your own division. Although this assumes you get these numbers and everyone pays full price for their tickets. People can google experience in creating a pro soccer team there is a lot of information on creating a NASL, USL, PDL and NPSL club and the budget and expectations needed to break even. USL budget because of MLS investment is about half of NASL that is why I suggest moving leagues. I work with a USL club who have an annual team budget of $800,000 this does not include stadium/game day costs but I would assume their overall budget is $1.2M where NASL is closer to $2M a season. A club like Detroit City FC have annual budget around $250,000 a year and some NPSL clubs are lower then $50,000 a year. I was smoking weed when I wrote it so I was hi What I said is the team will not lack Canadians but that these Canadians will be making the league minimum just based on expected salary based on history and performance most Canadians recruited in this league will be coming from CIS/CCAA/L1O so sure you can pay them $60,000-$80,000 a year if you wish but if you are a club why would you. The issue I mention is if the budget is high no club will hire management without a history of dealing with this type of budget. So the team will most likely higher an American with NASL/USL experience and they will hire players they are already committed to as we see with the development of other NASL/USL clubs. My Hamilton suggestion was a workable alternative to the CanPL as we feel the main reason we need a league is to develop pro players so if you did develop a Canadian pro team solely produced there would be benefits to that so players like Manny Aparicio and Caleb Clarke would have alternatives if cut from the Canadian MLS teams although you don't need 8 teams to do this or at least at this moment. I think most people on this board would struggle naming 100 better yet 200 Canadians who would play in the CanPL. I'm not against this league never been I'm giving an opinion taken from experience of dealing with the old CPL and other leagues in North America and Europe. I also attend L1O, PDL, USL games in Canada in empty stadiums where the quality of play will be equal to the type of player playing in the CanPL where prices of tickets are 1/2 or a 1/4 of what CanPL will have to charge for tickets. So I'm skeptical especially if I was asked to invest in this league although alternatively if a nationwide domestic league could be developed based on grassroots communities similar to Junior Hockey with 10 clubs out west, 10 clubs in Ontario and 10 clubs in the Quebec/East and a National Championship plus the opportunity for teams to play in the Voyageurs Cup and maybe play a MLS club. I think this is something that is viable and from examples we are now seeing in the States can be great for everyone involve. I also believe this system would develop as many players at the CanPL and giving them opportunities to play in MLS/Europe - USL/NASL - or attend NCAA Division 1 schools in the States and eventually play with the Canadian National Team which is the goal of the whole Can PL. The fact we are ignoring the Women's club game our greatest asset currently in Soccer is just another example of us being caught up in the American idea of "Pro Sports" then actually developing something with long term value.
  4. I've done interviews with players who were force to quit MLS USSDA academies because of costs. Most teams have some sort of administration fee but also expect the players family to cover costs like Travel and the player in question says his family was paying more then $3000 a year for his soccer costs. Even the Whitecaps have an upcoming trail/showcase and are asking players to pay $1000 to participate. Bottom line with CanPL is if it was your money would you invest in this league and what Canadian players need to be in this 1.5M budgeted league who wouldn't get the same out of a league with budgets 1/4th the costs. In terms of the idea we will take our losses and build the league, attendance historically been strong at the beginning of a sports league and gone down from there or remained consistent. Last year Ottawa only showed a 200 person increase per game from 2014 at TD Place despite an amazing season in 2015 and will most likely to go down this season well FC Edmonton attendance have gone down consistently each season since joining the NASL. If anything if CanPL was to happen the best attendance will be its first season because of the new car smell and be lucky if they can maintain that attendance going forward. In terms of ranking a league on one hand you say you don't want to be part of the American system and then on the other hand you say NASL 2nd Tier and NPSL is 4th Tier. What ever the CanPL is, it will always be second tier to the MLS and in terms of below that why should budget make a difference. I think the better question is what players would attract you to go to a CanPL game that is keeping you away from a L1O game. This is also taking into account that you are a knowledgeable soccer fan 95% of Canadians wouldn't know the difference if a L1O or a USL game was played at BMO as long as the presentation was the same. I'm not disagreeing development needs to be done at the club level in Canada although the plan should be realistic long term development then a league that is most likely to fold soon after it comes in existence. If Ottawa, FC Edmonton and now Hamilton want to remain in NASL on their own dime that is fine but also give smaller clubs a chance by allowing them to participate in the Voyageurs Cup and be part of a viable Canadian system/league. A grassroots club in Calgary, Winnipeg, Regina, Halifax and Quebec City have a much better chance growing if you reduce their starting costs then forcing them to invest heavily and have unrealistic expectations like the CanPL proposal suggests.
  5. Most if not all MLS academies and especially USL/NASL academies have some sort of pay to play feature. In terms of selling players Canadian teams are not making money from players going elsewhere if so the numbers are grossly over exaggerated and laws against foreign players in Europe is a new thing so most if not all players going to Europe have to have some sort of EU passport or other mechanism that would be out of CanPL control. Canada doesn't have a pro Basketball League, Baseball League and arguably Hockey League in terms of a top pro league domestically so to assume we need a soccer league to be successful I don't agree with it. Anyway L1O is a league and many countries who make the World Cup are a lot closer to L1O then the proposed CanPL (with a set budget designed higher then what the club can make to operate). No country outside of Canada & US and maybe Asia and Australia would have the money from the start and create franchise with it in hopes that it will be successful they would start grassroots and hope something comes from there. Also the only reason the MLS and Asian leagues exist in that fashion is it was part of them hosting the World Cup so they started with a whole bunch of money they could waste. The 8000 bar has never been achieved. That is FC Edmonton home attendance for three games.
  6. I was going to write an article on this topic although I didn't want to because the context would of been overall negative. The planned idea has a number of concerns beyond the most noticeable and that being at the proposed budget teams would have to charge $20 a game ticket and average 8000 fans a game to even think about being profitable. The other major issue for me is at that budget Canadians will not be benefiting from it because owners would be inclined to higher experienced MLS/USL management who as we are seeing in Ottawa will bring in their own guys to prop up the team so the players getting the most of this money will be current NASL/USL veterans most not Canadian. If Canadians are signed to play from example CIS, CCAA, and League One Ontario they will make league minimums which I been told by MLS/NASL/USL agents is around $20K a year since players are not paid for the whole year but just the length of the season. I guess this is still a good thing but a better option would be the money was put in expanding L1O/PLSQ/Western Equivalent as a truly semi-pro league and creating a Canadian version of NSPL. These same players could make a wage playing like for example $300-$500 a game as well as place for Amateur (NCAA) players and it would have the same amount of development with far less the risk. Use Detroit City FC as the model or the success of a Canadian Independent baseball team the Okotoks Dawgs - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okotoks_Dawgs I'm also not a fan of the Academy because its mainly a plan to milk money from parents as we see in the US with the USSDA and even here in Canada. Also the selling of players is a myth since Europe restricted laws for foreign players and MLS has no history of paying for domestic players. If Hamilton feels they are to big for a L1O team and wants a pro team I would join USL and develop the club as a Canadian U-23 side maybe even move the CSA and National Stadium to Hamilton and also invest in a NWSL team which could be achieved with the 1.5M budget being tossed around. I would also suggest to Ottawa and Edmonton to join USL oppose to NASL as it would save them quite a bit of money.
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