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Posts posted by Aird25

  1. 18 hours ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

    Sorry, but I don't agree with those spinning this for what it is said to be face value. 

    It is a major slap in the face to Langford. All this business about it being a growth area, the stadium, the youth teams--this ignores what the club is about.

    Rob Friend, even when signing with Langford, was clear he was really interested in Greater Vancouver and that the deal was put together quickly to get a foot in to CPL. We forget how quickly the deal was forged, it was almost last minute. But he has never denied it was not his first choice.

    Langford is on the extreme end of the population of Greater Victoria. There is virtually no immediate population north and very little west and south. It is not easy to get to, nor does it have amenities to offer game day (though they do an okay job with services on site). Royal Athletic, in contrast, brings you half an hour close to the biggest municipalities in Greater Victoria (Victoria does not, in fact, have the most population, Saanich just to the north does, and by a lot), and walking-biking distance to most of Victoria. And near restaurants, pubs, with various parking options nearby (though probably not enough).

    If Friend and the owners are doing this, under the guise of a friendly deal with an amateur club, it is because either -1-there are things they are not happy about with Langford; -2- they have heard something from City Hall, -3- they are working on longer term plans and see Victoria downtown as a better option. Or a combination of all three. 


    What exactly is it that the club are all about, wanting to play in Vancouver? I don’t get it.

    How about the 100k a year they get for the stadium sponsorship deal?

    If their market is the island, then Langford is more accessible to 75% of their target audience and that percentage will likely keep growing in the future. Tbh I wouldn’t be shocked if they’re testing downtown as a location for the future, but I just can’t see them walking away from Langford in the immediate future unless something has seriously changed recently 

  2. 1 hour ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

    I think the cold shoulder must come from the Caps, mostly. For a few reasons, which combine with each other:

    -the owners of PFC openly showing interest for a Greater Vancouver team.

    -weaker crowds for the Whitecaps in recent years, coupled with mediocre results.

    -Canadian content as a narrrative

    We even heard rumours that the Caps lobbied against a CPL team in the Fraser Valley.

    I personally feel that if the Whitecaps have a winning record, and are playing a reasonable number of Canadians, as well as moving some of that talent on to higher places, they have nothing to fear from a CPL team drawing 6000 in Surrey.


    The lack of loans to CPL is odd to me, but I still feel the animosity is fabricated. It just doesn't make sense to me. I don't think Pacific is negatively influencing interest in the Caps, and with the salary discrepancies as they currently are, MLS teams can simply pluck the best players from CPL

  3. 5 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said:

    Can you think of an example of any club globally that does something like that? The much more straightforward explanation is that if a sub-5k total capacity is now OK for CanPL (York and FCE also appear to be scaling back a bit in terms of seating) they may no longer need to use Langford to meet league requirements and by moving to RAP could have a grass playing surface, a Halifax style downtown location close to those used in Victoria by baseball and hockey for large scale paid spectator events and no messed up camera angles due to the hydro pole. As far as I remember David Clanachan has highlighted in the past that the hydro pole issue could prompt a move away from Langford. This pdf shows they are serious about that.

    No surprise you've taken something that highlights the potential for increased capacity and spun it to suggest decreasing capacity as the objective. In Langford they have a permanent stadium with larger capacity, a brand new training facility, branding throughout the city, a youth team setup, much cheaper accommodation for players and staff, a favourable governing body that is all in on sports, and it's all in the fastest growing community in BC. I really don't see this as them abandoning Langford after all that investment. At least in the short-term. I think they recognize the importance of connecting with downtown Victoria, and the soccer community that's established there. The downtown shop was another attempt at this. I certainly don't see this as a sign that the league is changing their requirements.

  4. 8 minutes ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said:

    Some of the actual as opposed to announced crowds at Langford in 2019 were dismal. Downtown Victoria is where they need to be to try to emulate the Wanderers.

    As someone who attended every Pacific game, as well as countless games at Clarke in Edmonton and other smaller venues before then, I can assure you that Westhills numbers did not feel greatly inflated. No matter how many times you bring this up

  5. 1 hour ago, Shway said:

    I’m confused, this seems like a backwards move... why?

    - smaller stadium from Starlight. Is Starlights capacity capped/limited  
    - Grass vs Turf... okay but the turf can be replaced
    - location? Which one is better?
    - the hydropole cant be moved huh

     All in all I’m trying to understand the benefit of leaving the initial investment that Is Westhill Stadium to update another stadium under less conditions.

     Someone please educate me.

    I don’t think there’s been any suggestion that they would leave Starlight. RAP would be used for special one off events for Pacific and potentially the national team. At least to start. An opportunity to connect with the downtown core and hopefully attract new fans. Burying the power lines in Langford sounds expensive. I don’t think it happens without more pressure and more support 

  6. 19 hours ago, Dominic94 said:

    I believe Glasscity has reported that the relationship between the Caps and Pacific is non existent at best.

    Didn’t the clubs train together this offseason? A good chunk of Pacific’s roster and management has experience with Whitecaps. The teams have never even played each other. Animosity just doesn’t make much sense to me, and it’s gotta be considerably easier to move players within BC than anywhere else in the world right now 

  7. 3 hours ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

    Wow, big move.

    12,000 at RAP for a national team game or Canadian Championship game would be incredible, and I love that they're partnering with such a historic club in the city. I wish they had done that initially.

    Are the Highlanders not the League 1 BC club rumoured for Victoria? I'm surprised they're not mentioned.

  8. 13 minutes ago, BrennanFan said:

    I think amazingly positive is too strong.  I expected better numbers from Liam, even with him mostly playing on the wing. Still, he did well and proved he can be a difference maker at the League 1 level.  It's been a good loan.  He has obviously grown as a pro and I feel more comfortable with him getting substitute minutes for Canada.        

    It’s consistently finding that end product that he’s missing. He too often makes the wrong decision or doesn’t execute. We’ve seen it with Canada too. He’s an excellent outlet though, and he creates danger. He just needs to keep his head in the final moments and he’ll start putting those numbers up

  9. 2 hours ago, Footyeh said:

    Campagna will struggle to get near the roster IMO, not the time to throw him in the deep end and he's not ready.  Will be good for him to get experience in the first team environment over the coming months and maybe get a loan to Europe for the fall given his passport.

    I know very little about the player but Pacific now need some defensive cover after being hit by injuries. If he has a European passport maybe we could count him as an international considering that's all we have space for. Brining in players from abroad has proven to be difficult given Covid restrictions

  10. 2 hours ago, Footyeh said:

    I really can't stand this... I want to be supportive of the league and especially Pacific but my god the signing of these types of players is both uninspiring and horrible for the league.  

    There's absolutely no resale value in a 24 year old coming from the 7th tier of England, a player like this doesn't raise the standard.  The league is supposed to be about identifying Canadian talent that's been overlooked and providing them opportunities, a signing like this is so counter-productive.  BC has soo much talent, just from the VMSL Premier alone you could field a competitive CPL team.  The bigger issue I have here is that they're not even looking to find the players that have slipped through the cracks.  It can't be that you have talented young players earning trials in Europe in strong leagues but can't get a look with the local side... The kid who signed with Braga is one example of this.

    I really can’t stand this take. Pacific weren’t even able to sign their draft picks due to the league’s new international player requirements. The only roster spots they have left are designated for internationals because the team is already full of young players from BC.

  11. While he’s certainly improved his overall game, he’s never been particularly good outside of putting the ball in the back of the net. It took Besiktas a couple seasons to figure that out. I worry another team might not have that patience 

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