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i sat on this for a week, after turning down approaches from Porto and a few premier league clubs after a chat with Klopp Liam decided to sign a new long term contract and head out on Loan to Kilmarnock..,Really happy and excited for the opportunity for Liam...Here's to him going and smashing up the SPL!!! Buzzing!!! Sent from a hotel in Kilmanock!!!!

Trust me when I say It would only be a loan Liam is going no where permanently anytime soon.(I would know) He is very happy at Liverpool and very highly rated, he is being developed as a back up in the Firmino mould... but understands the need for first team football to help develop his game. Last thing we want is for him to be a just in case player it would stifle his development... ATM it seems he is going to stay at LFC playing in the Premier league 2 with Liverpool FC u23s and pushing for fist team opportunities in the Caribou Cup. With him likely to go out on loan in January. He is gutted to have not gone on the first team tour to the USA but LFC had 6 players return from loan Origi. Ojo Wilson, Sturridge, Kent and Markovic... Wilson has gone to Derby Kent to Rangers...once more players go out on loan he should be in training with the first team. He is right on the fringe of the first team atm.. The one thing I never really got as a player(I played for a short time for Charlton 25 years ago...)was the mental side and how important it is..in my day u just got on with it... Liam has a mental skills coach through the club, that deals with set backs(like not going on tour, or being dropped back down) and dealing with ups and downs of the game, and injuries...it has really helped him... at the level Liam is at now that is the difference maker and the thing we lack in Canada.. the players that can deal and push through are the ones that go on to make it. The journey is a real rollercoaster ride of success and failure... sorry long post...

A few more sorry proud!!

He had an amazing 75 mins in front of 58000 fans at Celtic Park. The atmosphere was unbelievable. (I was there!!!) He was Completely shattered after the match. He absolutely worked his socks off for the team. It was very disciplined and mature performance in a left mid of a 4 which he hasn’t to my knowledge ever played. A left wing in a front 3 yes not a midfield 4. BBC player ratings of the match he was rated the 3rd best performance on the pitch!! Not bad for his first start against arguably the best team in scotland! Sorry gushing a bit still buzzing. Hopefully first of many starts now! Not many 19 year olds get to make that starting appearance or even ever get to experience that. It has been a fabulous year with ya tin of growth and experiences! Liam’s looking forward to getting back with the National team lads if selected for the Gold cup Dop !!

So a bit of an update. This experience has been exactly what Liam needed. Scotland has been a blast, he was thrown right in but hit the ground running. He's now had two really good first team substitute appearances and is really growing as a player. It's the small things you don't get from youth football. The day to day competition and struggle of working towards trying to get that starting spot... being around pros who can help you with the details.. training for an opponent.. Liam is hungry and happy!! Liam has come into a very good settled team but the manager Steve Clarke seems to have faith in him as he has thrown him into both games where he has come on and made a real impact and has been unlucky to not get his first goal. Big game on Saturday vs his former coach Stevie G and Rangers on Saturday!!! It won't be easy but nothing worth doing is and nothing good comes out of being comfortable...Very happy with his loan move

Spoke with Cordova over Instagram DM since it had been 12 months after his last call up (Oct 2017 vs ES) - He said he was nominated vs NZ in Spain but turned it down due to a big match solidify his spot and so therefore Herdman let him - That he was only left out of the last two due to Technical decisions *No RB’s being selected - Very motivated and committed to Canada ?? - Currently he’s fighting in his club with Jose Bizama who got called up for Chilean national team not too long ago - He thinks Canada will be a powerhouse since Canada already has very good players without its own league, “Just imagine what it will be like when they do” - Would consider a move to MLS in the future should he receive any offers - He’s learned the Oh Canada Anthem, English has improved and talks to Herdman with out a translator - Likes the healthy competition at Huachipato and finally hopes to be playing the Copa Sudamericana next year!

Just posting this for the likes...

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/331460-melwood-photos-liverpool-training-christmas-eveLiam’s in training with the first team over Christmas... a few shots from today’s session... nice to see him line up against Kieta... Liam looks very serious(Right side beside Lallana behind Henderson!) but he is very happy for the opportunity... lots of fixtures of the next few weeks

All will be revealed by 10pm bst Thursday...(transfer deadline in the UK) hopefully before..?

To be honest a little numb atm..just got home from the game... I was in the away end with 1500 screaming Killie fans when he scored..a little unreal!! SO happy for him! Hopefully first of many and great timing with the national team game coming up!!!

Liam like I, have great pride in being Canadian, we always talk about playing for where your heart lies. There will always be people who talk about careers decisions and such(playing for England being better for your career) but in the end he loves Canada and was born there it made him who is today and that's why he is proud to pull on the red. His career will take him where it is supposed to. I always say when the national anthem plays, play for the country that gives you chills... I get chills ever time O' Canada plays and so does he... Liam has a had a great preseason at LFC is fit and ready to go. Their first PL2 game is this weekend vs Brighton. I as he, wants to be selected because he deserves it not because you want to cap tie him. He won't play for anyone else...

Arrived in Bradenton after a 12 hrs journey form Liverpool!!! Looking forward to the game tomorrow!!

The issue isn't with the site per se, it's with the linking. If you simply go to the site, you won't have issues (and why we don't find any our end). It's a complex issue, we've looked at it. Because the issue actually happens BEFORE people get to the site. It's the link being intercepted and people being re-directed. It happens to a minority of people. It's a problem, but a real head-scratcher. I may actually stop sending links and simply post updates that will instruct people to go to the site manually. I'll put it frankly, The11.ca loses a lot of money. It was a labour of love that I subsidized with the broadcast money I would make from doing NASL games. Obviously, those don't happen anymore. Launched Plastic Pitch, that broke even in year one and two, but then it became too expensive to run (I was out of pocket nearly 10K on it in year three, so some hard decisions had to be made). I understand that the app world collapsed (as one industry insider once put it at a conference I was at, "apps are the eight-track tapes of our generation") so I'd eat that. I guess, I just want you all to understand that "fixing" an issue can be very, very expensive. Like, four or five digits. I leave the lights on simply because I'm hopeful that the CanPL will launch and that will create some new revenue lines so that the site can break even. But when I take on writing projects that pay the bills (writing about things that aren't soccer) to ones that are a massive financial wasteland (writing about soccer), I'd just like readers to understand that the site is more a labour of love than anything else at this point. "Fixing" issues is expensive.

Sure, you've provided examples from multiple soccer reporters that he has interest in Europe. Sure, you've provided a quote from his own general manager confirming that there are teams interested. Sure, he is having a very good year and it's not out of the realm of possibility that some European teams have come by to kick the tires. Sure, other MLS players like Mohammed Saeid, Roland Alberg, Joevin Jones, Ambroise Oyongo, João Meira, Mix Diskerud, Jack Harrison, and Cyle Larin all made similar moves just this past January. Sure, Canadian soccer players have made the international news lately with Alphonso Davies' transfer and Jonathan David's exploits, generating even a slight uptick in the interest in Canadian soccer in some circles. Even so, the fact remains that no team has contacted me personally to let me know that they are interested in Osorio, so until that happens I choose to believe that there is no interest at all in him. If he doesn't sign with TFC, he better hope he can catch on with a CPL or L1O team.

Liam on the bench vs Livingston FC Alovely pic of the voyageurs scarf Jambo gave me at the game !!! One more of his brother wearing it with pride!!!

Just read through that article and the next paragraph after the one posted has Herdman quoting Canucks Abroad. I think with all the kudos going around, one is deserved for @Fussball_eh and team for the work they do.

Liam did really well today, he's been a really game changer and taken on what the manager Steve Clarke has to say. Very very unlucky not to be through on goal because of a cynical foul. Came on full of running and gave Rangers something to think about. Unlucky not to start but expected it against Rangers at Ibrox tbh.. Steve Clarke has a plan... He was not phased playing in front of a hostile crowd of 49000 fans at Ibrox. Not a lot of our senior men's national team players play in front of that many and thought at 19 showed a lot of maturity. This loan(his first) has been so good for him, really seen him grow into a man. His tail is up and he is full of confidence and keen to get back to the national team... he knows he has Hoilett in front of him but is happy for the chase... Looking forward to the game on the 24th

Midtjylland are apparently cutting his loan to Fredericia short so that he can play in the Superliga once their winter break ends. It seems that he has been playing well in the second tier. He was described by his coach at Fredericia as being "the best centre-back in the league".

VAR to review that Atiba goal in 2007

My favourite memory from tonight’s match was while watching it with my 5 year old son and he turned to me and said “I want to be a Canada player!” We sang Oh Canada together. Celebrated the goals together. And dreamed of him suiting up for Canada together in the future. This is why playing matches and having them televised is important. *ironically all done while wearing the Northern Ireland top my wife put him in earlier today to wind me up. Haha so proud.

Yes he has signed. Here is my translation of the Finnish article: "New player contract - versatile Jonas Häkkinen has signed with Vaasan Palloseura Vaasan Palloseura [VPS] has signed a player contract with the young Finnish player Jonas Häkkinen. The contract is 1+1 years. [unspecified whether the option is one way or two way] Jonas Häkkinen is a multi-functional player who owns both the Finnish and Canadian passports, and who can play both stopper and defensive midfielder. "For the last few years he has played stopper, but before that he has played defensive midfielder, as well", VPS head coach Petri Vuorinen comments. Häkkinen has played his entire career in Vancouver, where he has played in the Whitecaps academy. Häkkinen has Finnish parents and he speaks good Finnish, although his native tongue is English. "Jonas has trained with us for quite a while already. He came to Finland to uplift his career. Comparing him with other players of his generation (1999), I believe that he has the full potential to succeed in Finnish Premier League", Vuorinen analyzes. Very little about this promising player is known in Finland. Contact between the player and the club came through his agent. The youngster has trained with VPS for a month already. "The agent suggested that we give Jonas a trial. We decided to take him along and have been judging his play. In the last few years, many young players looking to develop have trialed for us. This time we found a good "match". I do not think many have heard of him here, even though he is Finnish. He is a new face for many here in that sense." In addition to his playing skills, there is another thing Vuorinen specifically likes about Häkkinen. "He has a very tough but healthy attitude about sports and football in general. All that is right", Vuorinen comments. Jonas' own interview will be done during November. -------- Since it's my first post, I figure it's fine to use this space to say hello everybody, too. I am a VPS fan from Finland - a cold, stable Northern country, with an under-performing National Team with a history of promising players selecting some another country, and whose general public has an unhealthy obsession with this sticky-sport played on ice. Suppose this description also explains to you all why I have somehow developed kind of a weird sympathetic affinity towards the "soccer people" in Canada, and hence I have been following your NT for the past few years, including lurking on this forum occasionally. So I figured that now that this guy signed with my local club team, it would be a good excuse to register here too. So I do hope you guys don't mind having me as an "outsider" for our countries are yet to develop a fierce rivalry in this sport. (Although I also wouldn't mind, if in the next few years one developed over Häkkinen's services at the senior level. ) --------- Would Jonas warrant his own thread, btw? Now that he's going to be playing here, I would be more than glad to contribute with updates on Jonas etc. since I watch every VPS game anyway.

Done And changing his posts to kitten pics ....

I would think if he's going to transfer anywhere else in Europe, from a cultural perspective, England would be the best choice. He speaks the language and he has experience driving on the left side of the road. Unfortunately getting a work permit in the UK can be complicated.

Patrice Bernier > Didier Drogba

All I know is that constantly quoting him really reduces the effectiveness of my "ignore" function.

The main thing is that we arrogantly celebrate goals 9-13 like we just won the world cup.

It seems the posters and table set ups at Voyageurs Cup games and the Allstate soccer show have had an effect. At least five people have emailed me saying we met at such and such an event and are coming to their first game. There are many people asking which Shoeless Joe's to go to because it is also their first game. ( Because I took the location for granted as known) Not all of them bought tickets through us, the supporters section isn't for everyone. That's ok. Just glad they are going to the game. Thanks to all the people who helped out. JM

I just want to thank you for putting the notice out about the CMNT on the poles around BMO field. I have been wanting to join this group for a very long time. Huge Canada soccer fan and I am excited about being at the match on Tuesday.

Lol at you thankless bastards. Tabla finally commits and within 2 hours we are clamouring for Tomori, Ferreira, and Eustaquio. I love you all.

for the record Liam has turned down 3 call ups to England... for the record...

Liam played 81 mins in a hard fought tough 1-0 win for Kilmarnock!! He played like a lion and ran and ran and gave the right back fits. Only thing missing was a goal! Shattered again in the end and was subbed off but really happy with his effort and output. Happy he gave his all Killie now I’m 3rd with a possibility of Europa League!! Great for him to really build on his match fitness leading up to the gold cup!!

Standby today.... going to be a long day!!!

Screw it. I am calling it - we are winning the 2026 WC.

For a guy that took a lot of **** when he was hired for this job, John Herdman is doing an outstanding job with player commitments and squad selection.

It would only be a 6 month loan and only to play in the Sunderland 1st team with penalty for under 70% playing time. It would be a good move to get first team playing time. It is standard pathway for top English prospects. Harry Kane went on loan 5 times as did Beckham. This is the clubs plan. Sunderland is one of 4 clubs looking to take Liam on loan. Liam is not leaving lfc(except on Loan)...not anytime soon anyway .

Looks like he made it to YVR after all. Hard to question his commitment to the team if he's flying half way across the world to cheer on the boys. Great to see

Boarding!! Vancouver here I come!! ? Edit!! Sorry im excited have been back there is 25 years!!!

Liam has been in and out all this week with the first team. They have a few injuries and have loads of games in the next few weeks.He is happy for any chance he gets and says the first team players are really welcoming to the young players.. he said especially Wijnaldum and Salah!!! As for Wolves I wouldn' t think he will get near it but it would be amazing if he did...Its really a numbers game. The first team at Liverpool has a squad of about 35, very deep especially up front. So Liam's opportunities will come probably from injuries or more loans. Ovie Ojaria has just returned from Rangers and Ben Woodburn may follow suit as his loan at Sheffield United hasn't worked out... he trains with the u23s unless he gets a call to come train at Melwood normally first thing in the morning… Like I tell him keep working hard and soak it all in and do you best every chance you get...keep at it...and keep dreaming...your chance may come A.

Great pub night on Friday at the Irish Times. Josh and Rob had great things to tell us about how the club is coming together. For those who could not make it here are some highlights that I feel it is OK to share: Jersey design finalized, described as "best in league", no more hints Order placed with manufacturer, expected arrival date: February Yes, there will be XXXL Jerseys for purchase for us Other merchandise will be available soon in the new storefront downtown on Fort St (near Douglas) Updated stadium renders show fantastic stands, Rob asked for "our" stand to be nice and steep Modular stadium components being manufactured in Italy, estimate 6 weeks to assemble when delivered on site Events planned up and down the Island in the coming months with a great interactive component There was no PR flack, we were talking directly to Josh and Rob and if you can come down to one of these (they will be at different paces each month I understand) it will be well worth your time.

This sentence, is incredible.

I don’t understand. The point of the group stage is to get through. The squad must be managed and rotated it’s not about beating México in the first round it’s about winning the Gold cup. A win in game 1 and 3 guarantees that. This isn’t about personal grudges and friendships it’s about results. Like I said before 3 games in 8 days one in the heat of Pasadena and the 2nd at altitude... followed by a trip across 3 time zones for the 3rd. there is no scenario where the same starting 11 play all three games. No where. Come out strongest in game 1, a version of the team vs T &T is best. Mexico is the best place to rest players in the group stage. Play tight and play for a narrow win or a draw. Exploit speed on the counter. Millar did this versus Celtic in front of 60000... A team wins a game. A squad win the tournament. For the first time in a long time we have a very good squad. Let’s use it.

Dwayne DeRosario Dale Mitchell John Catliff Tosaint Ricketts ......... He may indeed be done with the NT, and he has many flaws, but delivering was never one of them.

Check out @CanadaSoccerEN’s Tweet: There's our answer.

Scott and I have never discussed MNT. However, he's a proud, patriotic Canadian and I suspect would he would welcome the opportunity. I don't know Cornelius. I watched a Youtube compilation of his play and he looks like a talented young man. I have no comment on the difference between the Serbian league and the Austrian Bundesliga. Scott continues to improve and grow. To compare the two is natural, but not necessary. They are different. Scott has been playing in four different positions for Klagenfurt. Right back, Centre back, left back and midfield. He has scored two goals and it seems he has good scoring chances (and assists) every game. I'm confident Scott will earn a look from the MNT. Time will tell.

Here are some photos from the training camp. My apologies in advance - I'm not the best photographer!! Hope this works.?

New to the forum - first post, but looooooong time fan of this team I took a trip up to Alliston today and am watching them train as I type. Pretty cool to watch and see how they interact durIng their drills. Boy do they move fast in tight quarters. Looking forward to the the game next week. I really enjoy this forum, keep up the great discussion

I think the circumstances here are quite different. Owen Whoregraves Born: Canada Grew up: Canada Youth development: Canada (Calgary Foothills) Pro development: Germany Represents: England Whoregreaves was the only player to appear for England at the senior level, despite having never lived in England, and the first to appear for England without having played in Britain. ********** has attempted a baffling British accent, so badly, that people in England still think he's German. Ballou Tabla Born: Ivory Coast Grew Up: Canada Youth development: Canada (Montreal Impact) Pro development: Canada/Spain Represents: Canada Tabla played for Canada at U15, U17, and U20 levels. Tabla has never attempted a baffling British accent. Conclusion: Ballou Tabla - not Owen Whoregreaves

A couple morning-after points from our pitch-side vantage: * Field was incredibly bumpy. I know we always talk about pitch quality away in CONCACAF, but in-person it's much more obvious of an issue. Lots of passes bouncing over feet or changing direction last-second, making it hard to play one-touch. Yes we had more-defensive MFs playing in attacking roles due to Oso/Scotty missing, but a lot of the timidity in central MF seemed to be borne out of caution to minimize counters. Team was very vocal when a SKN got anywhere near a canMNT and saw a lot of backpasses rather than turns upfield (SKN much more aggressive / successful on these balls). As frustrating as it was to see lack of aggressiveness going forward it was clear Herdman wanted them thinking defence first. * SKN was very physical and finished many tackles pretty late. Surprised there weren't more yellows on both sides. * As others have stated need to see Davies more forward up the field. When he's attacking one-on-one and has an overlapping teammate offering an outlet / drawing defenders he was very dangerous. Could have had one or two if not for their keeper. * Shaky start but by 2H could see/hear the team was much more confident on the ball and moving better off it. Created at least three clear chances they should have potted. A lot of people like to take the pessimistic angle but given SKN only had a couple of half-chances (at best) and we created much better in 2H this could have easily been 3-0. * Friendly hosts, no issues at all. Pales in comparison to horror stories from Central American away games.

TBH they said there were a few reasons. This is their process, they are happy for the interest in Liam. But they said it is rare for a 18 year old pro(first full year as one) to go out on loan. Woodburn, Herbie Kane, Ojaria, and Kent all waited until their second year. The first loan is very important. It has to be the right fit for the player and club. He has to go and do well and play, a bad first loan can be much worse then no loan at all. so it has to be the right fit. 2ndly They say they want him to play u23s get a good run of games under his belt, train with the first team and have opportunities to possibly play in the Carabou cup with the first team. Again he is very highly rated and take the development very seriously. It is on their timeline and I trust it. Sure I want him to play 1st team football but what they are saying seems to make sense...