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  1. 8 points
    admin

    Canadian Premier League

    Done.
  2. 6 points
    For the most part, I felt that was an excellent video by Mr. de Vos and by far in my eyes, the good vastly outweighed the bad or omitted. This is just my take on it. The Good His comments in athletics about critical feedback and being honest is completely true. It's far too often lost, both on coaches and players at a young age. Highschool Football (gridiron) was the first time I actually experienced this with my coaches growing up. Every other coach before that in any other sport I played (soccer included) was pretty much "You're on the bench, or seeing limited time, or you're cut because...well because" Never, what you are doing right and what you are doing wrong and often because, I'll admit, I wasn't that atheltic a kid back then. Anyways, his comments about how 30% of technical directors are admitting that skill is how they select players for their programs, at the under 8 level, and high levels (65% for 11 and 12 year olds) are a breath of fresh air. The implication is pretty staggering for two reasons. The first is it shows technical directors are (for whatever reason) selecting players because they can win games at the age as low as 7. I can't beleive for a second that a 7 year old has sufficient inherent skill at the game, so I'm more inclined to think "skill" in this case is athletic ability, as we all know at the lower levels of the game, athletic ability is more often the equalizer. Second, it shows a mentality to already exclude players, well before there is a realistic indication if they will be able to become pro or not. That players are being left behind, which isn't only making the player poor more shallow, but discourages the development of soccer from a grassroots cultural standpoint. I also think he's completely bang on the head about scores, standing and the recess analogy, and I'm glad he cleared the air on that one. It's espcially a problem in hockey where spots and ice time are always being called into question. His quote about never wanting to be the last coach a kid has, and "as many as possible, for as long as possible, in the best environment as possible." I also salute him for calling out the woman's program as well. That age gap is absurd and needs to be rectified, and he's completely right, we're only on top because we're one of the first to the gate. What's going to happen when the sleeping giants that are Spain, Italy, Brazil and Mexico wake up. Heck, the way he speaks of Iceland, it wouldn't shock me if they also become a power in the near future in the women's game. Also the weekly courses, he's bang on. That kind of learning seldom works or is retained, and is very hard to acquire when you are working a job. His plans on better intergrating with the Canadian program, much similar licensing and making them modular is a great idea. I'm not quite sold on his ideas of no fail, just needs improvement approach to coaching, but a new approach I suppose couldn't hurt. While I feel there are people who simply shouldn't be allowed to coach, that determination isn't really something development testing can weed out. The Bad 13% of starts made by players on Canadian MLS teams were made by Canadian players. THAT is the statistic I feel is the fundamental issue with our professional teams and not enough stress has been put on. I disagree with him that he doesn't feel pro teams and a pro league are going to have a meaningful impact. He cites MLS and it's failure to produce meaningful development. This, in my eyes is an issue from both ends of the spectrum. First MLS has certainly produced more development then what we had in the 90s and early 2000s, if only because it's raised the profile of the game. That said, on the other end, he doesn't address why MLS's development hasn't been meaningful or large enough. He fails to cite is that MLS is NOT required to start, even a single Canadian as it stands now. Three Canadians on the bench is all the lip service they need to give. Canadian teams, that are Canadian only by location are of course not going to benefit our national team. Now I will agree, these teams do contribute to development, as they do offer grassroots initiatives and they do give a team to aspire too, however it's not the leaps and bounds we need to be remotely competative at the international level. If Garber is saying "It's moot because you don't have talent" the response is "If you truly care about Canadian soccer like you claim, then why aren't you developing local talent Mr. Garber? Espcially when you can sell their contracts overseas?" Have the Blue Jays, who don't need or field a single Canadian player, improve our National Baseball team? Sure, in the sense that they'ved created interest in the game, and that the Jays do make Grassroots investments in Baseball, but for the most part, we're still getting creamed by the US, Japan, Cuba and the Dominican who, unsurprisingly have thier own, attended pro leagues. When professional teams are forced to field domestic players, they are forced to develop domestic players. It forces them to spend private sector money and taking a finacial burden off of the association. They are forced to give Canadians jobs which in turn leads to Canadian players going back into coaching instead of ending their careers at highschool or college. He is living evidence that having professional oppourtunity leads to contributing to the game post career. The Ugly (or rather the omitted) I didn't see a lot of digging into the finances of development, or the acknowledgement of the pressure it may have in Canada. That ugly peice of data would likely be the most uncomfortable and needed critcal feedback for our sport. He speaks of Iceland, where no one is left behind and they pay for players at a young age. I know that doesn't exsist in Canada, where you often have to pay to play. What's going to make that money to drop into development? I really wish he had gone into details as to the "pathways" of Canadian pro soccer development and it's current fundamental flaws and benefits, although this is probably more wanting clairification on what the pathway is? What it's supposed to be, and where the dead ends are (as I know there are dead ends in our system). Perhaps that fault is more mind on that one, but this graphic, doesn't exactly inspire confidence in my eyes. http://www.canadasoccer.com/canada-soccer-pathway-ltpd--s16879 He mentions how great we are at organizing recreational soccer, and does mention quite a bit as to using skill to determine player selection at a young age is flawed, but when does skill start to matter? To use his elementary school analogy, at which point do you say "You've got great grades in highschool, you get a scholarship for University. You have poor grades, you need to take extra courses on your dime if you want to get into here" When does the tipping point happen where you have to say "This player shows not only skills but commitment, he's in even if he can't afford it." and what is being done to drive that and identify players? Conversely, what is being done on the private end of development for players who have financial resources to get into an academy, even if their skills might not be as impressive as others, and their transistion into the game. I didn't really see a lot of that being clairfied. From my understanding, this is where a lot of the dead ends happen in our development pathway, but once again, not enough explained on it. This leads to my last glaring omission, he doesn't speak a lot about the late end development at all seemingly. After you are done the youth programs, what's being added to expand and assist the transistion between amateur and pro? What's the late game in development in our country? It's never touched upon.
  3. 5 points
    SuperCanuck

    Canadian Premier League

    What are we, Wales? This is an independent country, and we should have our own league promoting our own interests. No US league will ever really care about the development of our players.
  4. 5 points
    Zem

    Jason de Vos named CSA Director of Development

    "Our system of player development is broken." Jason de Vos's keynote speech at the Ontario Soccer Summit this past weekend.
  5. 4 points
    El Hombre

    2017 Gold Cup

    I don't think anyone here has a problem with moving Johnson to RB. My guess is that Will himself would have a problem with that. And when Will has a problem with things, things generally don't work out.
  6. 3 points
    Kent

    Alphonso Davies

    Because they have to make some code changes to allow the player ratings to go up to 105!!!
  7. 3 points
    Its the third tier just in case anyone thinks its actually the first division. Allsvenskan Superettan Div1 Div2 ETC
  8. 3 points
    Fullback

    2017 Gold Cup

    In my head I keep coming up with a lineup like this as I feel it plays to many of our player's strengths. Hoilett and Davies are both very capable at running at players and taking them on. Larin can recieve service from out left with de Jong who is our best crosser of the ball imo and Larin is no longer isloated up top with Hoilett in behind him. Defence is honestly a crapshoot with injuries and a lack of depth.
  9. 2 points
    Keep in mind this lecture was to people involved in Ontario Soccer, I imagine mostly coaches and technical directors of club teams. It isn't helpful to talk about how the pro teams/leagues could do more to support player development in this context. If anything that would lean towards the defensive talk that he mentioned at the beginning. By putting focus on what those other guys (pro clubs) could be doing better, it absolves the amateur clubs of responsibility for doing what they can. Again, I think this is another piece that is out of scope in this discussion. The costs are up to the clubs to determine I believe, although their hands may be forced a bit depending on the league they play in. It would have been nice of him to mention if there would be any charge for taking the online courses, or getting evaluated, and what those charges would be. This is a good question. I would have liked him to talk about this more. With his recess analogy was he implying that clubs should not just have a single team in a league, and rather put in as many teams as they can? Like Woodbridge Strikers Blue, Red, and Green all play at the same level (I used colours instead of letters or numbers, to avoid ranking them). And further to that, would he suggest that player movement happen between those teams from week to week to keep them balanced? Does this continue until you get to L1O? Or maybe just to the "Training to Compete" part of the pathway that you linked to (which is 15 years old for girls, and 16 years old for boys). The thing that I felt he omitted was any mention of SAAC clubs. Again, there may very well not have been any SAAC clubs in attendance there (I don't know one way or the other), but at least a quick mention that they need to be included in high performance leagues if they want to be, and they meet the requirements. That being said, I thought it was a good lecture. That being said, I'm an outsider. I played youth soccer in Ontario in the 80's and 90's, but I haven't been on the coaching side of things, or the parent side of things yet. All I know really is based on the information I get from sites like this.
  10. 2 points
    SuperCanuck

    Canadian Premier League

    I'd like us to do at least one thing without involving our neighbours.
  11. 2 points
    Ansem

    Voyageurs' Cup 2017

    The man could care less about Canadian Soccer.
  12. 2 points
    SuperCanuck

    Changes to the Voyageurs Cup

    Error Notice: This post has been placed here in error. Please ignore.
  13. 2 points
    I mean, is there any other nation in the world that requires less of its pro teams with regard to domestic talent?
  14. 2 points
    hamiltonfan

    Canadian Premier League

    @adminexample #160 ; )
  15. 2 points
    I should be through in edinburgh for roughly 430,theres 5-6 bars round abount easter road that will be safe enough for few beers,international football and club football is completely diff in scotland,i wouldnt dream of drinking in those pubs with a rangers shirt on before a game,but the tartan army are just there fir a good time! im happy to meet anybody round about the bars there pre-game? I actually have a small favour to ask...if anyone travelling in could pick me up a small bag of ground tim hortons coffee at the airport ill get you acouple pints before the game?i'm not going over to canada until july and i ran out yest morning ??
  16. 1 point
    dyslexic nam

    Canadian Premier League

    As would almost everyone here. The quoted text was said in the context of a hypothetical question: if CPL doesn't come to fruition, what would be people's preferred Plan B. That is where MLS entered the picture - not as any sort of preferred option.
  17. 1 point
    There are new coaching licenses that will be more relevant and more accessible. The motivation to obtain them will come from the clubs. There will be new club licenses, so if one club wants to proclaim its superiority over another it will no longer be based on u12 tournament wins, but in coaching standards.
  18. 1 point
    Keegan

    2017 Gold Cup

    Ineffective? He was an MLS all-star as a wide mid for RSL. In the 2009 Gold Cup he played wide for us as well, didn't look too bad there even if the middle is his natural position.
  19. 1 point
    Kent

    Voyageurs' Cup 2017

    I sure hope CPL teams prioritize the Voyageurs Cup and the CCL, because that's where we can most easily see the MLS to CPL gap. The better the results in those competitions, specifically against MLS teams, the better the CPL looks. The fact that MLS teams typically don't take the Voyageurs Cup all that seriously can help CPL's scorelines, at least until they start pushing MLS enough that MLS has to take it more seriously. It will be interesting to see how MLS teams treat the new CCL format. Teams tended to play reserves in the group stages, but take the knockout round games more seriously. So they might actually play starters for the most part from now on.
  20. 1 point
    Kent

    Voyageurs' Cup 2017

    I saw this article a few days ago, and thought the headline was misleading. There are 0 quotes from TFC or anyone involved with TFC. Nobody cried foul (except some fans, but the article didn't even mention that). I wonder if the lack of complaints from TFC are actually a reflection of how little they care about the CCL? I sure hope not.
  21. 1 point
    shermanator

    Voyageurs' Cup 2017

    For a second I thought TFC were crying foul at the fact that they have to start 3 Canadians in each match. I'm sure that eats Manning up inside.
  22. 1 point
    Great song. Too bad you told me what it was based on. I'm hoping to be there. Hoping to sing some songs together.
  23. 1 point
    dyslexic nam

    2016-17 CCL

    So, live game coverage tonight on TSN? I better not miss this one too. And I assume (given the starting time) that it is Van's home game...? Will be great to see what VWC can do against Tigres. They will be tough as hell, but you never know - anything is possible over 90 minutes. Would love to see Davies be a difference-maker.
  24. 1 point
    SuperCanuck

    Changes to the Voyageurs Cup

    There used to be a team that played in yellow and blue with a really cool crest that played at Swangard. Then they changed leagues, changed colours and abandoned their crest for a 'logo' that looked as if it was drawn by a three-year-old.
  25. 1 point
    I'm not going to paint that rosy a picture. I mean, yes we have shown we will support soccer, but keep in mind. Our women's team is at the top of the world, using that friendly to gauge interest in the NASL grade (at least initially) men's team isn't the best of logic. As far as the Pan-Ams, also a hard gauge, because you have a lot of multicultural, international pride going on there. As far as Hamilton, I expect Ottawa NASL levels and slowly improving as time goes on. I fully expect a Hamilton team to put pressure on TFC to not drop the ball, because I know if they try to jack up tickets, or start treating their fans like crap, there will be people who will start taking the GO Train westbound. My bigger concern is how well they draw out West where CFL ball is king in the summer and the grassroots soccer infrastrucutre is a fraction of what it is here in the golden horseshoe.
  26. 1 point
    The problem is that when Chapman has a nice spell for TFC last year, his reward is that TFC signs Armando Cooper, not exactly a great player, to take his place. And this year they sign another guy and the same thing happens to Osorio. And the CSA doesn't do anything about it except whine.
  27. 1 point
    Am I the only one that thinks Chapman should be demanding a trade to Minnesota?
  28. 1 point
    I don't want to be seen defending MLS. They haven't done enough for Canada. However, when I look at Alphonso Davies regularly starting and 17 year old Ballou Tabla appearing in both Montreal Impact games this MLS season. I'm optimistic. When I look at the new domestic rules for Canadians and generation adidas Canada program that got Adonijah Reid scoring against Argentine clubs in pre season with FC Dallas, I'm optimistic. Dynamic, offensively skilled players are beginning to sprout up in MLS for Canada for the first time ever. We're starting to see some promise. Is it enough? Not even close. Can more be done? Absolutely. Do I feel better now than if we had forced 3 Kyle Bekkers on the field for our MLS clubs? Yes.
  29. 1 point
    I'm waiting for the ideas of how to fix it.
  30. 1 point
    I'm sure they can hear him all the way back in 90s. Tell us something we don't know.
  31. 1 point
    hamiltonfan

    Toronto FC U19s at Viareggio Cup

    @admincan we please block this guy? Troll by definition.
  32. 1 point
    shermanator

    Kosovar Sadiki

    Am I the only one who thinks that would be a good landing spot for him? I think our youth players would gain more experience by signing for clubs at lower levels and getting actual game play, instead of staying in the reserves / youth teams of bigger clubs.
  33. 1 point
    Zem

    Canadians abroad: March 10-16, 2017

    Yes, CFA, France's highest regionally-split tier
  34. 1 point
    Kent

    Ben McKendry

    It's only one game, but I think this is a reminder for us that just because a player doesn't get any minutes doesn't mean they are utter garbage, or must not be earning the spot. Sometimes you need a break to get into the lineup, even though you are good enough. It took his third season before he got on the field in MLS, and he did well. It's entirely possible he would have done well 2 years ago, or 1 year ago.
  35. 1 point
    Dominic94

    2017 Gold Cup

    Hard to believe our D is now a problem
  36. 1 point
    shamrock

    Ben McKendry

    I think you're right. But, to put things in perspective, Teibert is about the same age (half a year older) and has played over 100 MLS-games more than McKendry. I'm very surprised that he even got this chance to show what he's got.
  37. 1 point
    masster

    Ben McKendry

    I know this is the wrong thread...but Teibert has become the victim of expectations and constant turnover. When you start in MLS as a 17 year old those expectations will be there, then for a half season under Rennie, it looked like those expectations would be fulfilled. Since then, it has been numerous position changes and performances that have not matched the levels from a few seasons ago. When Robinson continually says that Teibert is the future captain of this team, that doesn't do anything to lower expectations either. So the general feeling among most Vancouver supporters (my sense anyways), is that he is not good enough to be a starter and we need to improve on that position. I have been saying for a couple of seasons that he has plateaued here and that a change of scenery would be good for him. I still feel that way.
  38. 1 point
    jordan

    Quillan Roberts

    On trial at Rochester http://www.thebentmusket.com/2017/3/2/14786284/trialist-heavy-rochester-rhinos-preseason-win-quillan-roberts-ray-lee-jochen-graf-felix-debona
  39. 1 point
    Quillan Roberts played the first half for Rochester in a a game against Canisius College http://www.thebentmusket.com/2017/3/2/14786284/trialist-heavy-rochester-rhinos-preseason-win-quillan-roberts-ray-lee-jochen-graf-felix-debona
  40. 1 point
    Ansem

    Canadian Premier League

    The teams are getting richer to acquire quality internationals capable of starting every games. American domestics are sure to suffer from it until they can reach the same level. This isn't England, Spain or Europe in general and it's normal. In Europe, the domestic players are so good that they can bench their international players while in MLS, the team quality takes a huge drop if they do or lose them to injuries. I expect the same to happen to CPL as well, but least this scenario is a massive upgrade to what we have today with MLS. It will be up to our guys to learn from the internationals we'll be signing and get better so more of them can start consistently. Most likely, we're looking in CPL at all Internationals starting and those on the bench getting most of the subs. At least the balance of players will be Canadians. That's why I cringe when MLS tries to sell themselves as a top league and people on theses forums are massively overrating American domestic players.
  41. 1 point
    Ansem

    Canadian Premier League

    For the first time, I was completely uninterested with the start of the MLS season. I personally don't see a point without Canadians playing and I don't even miss it. After the miracle comeback (or historical choke) of the Barcelona vs. PSG game, I'm still on a UEFA CL high. I'd rather watch CPL with Canadians in it than MLS loaded with internationals and Americans with no Canadians in sight. By the way, since Drogba is no longer in Montreal, some fans are staring to question why Montreal Impact don't have Quebecers on the field more often. It's starting over there
  42. 1 point
    Toje

    Canada vs Scotland

  43. 1 point
    nolando

    Ben McKendry

    I thought Teibert was almost 100% at fault on one of the goals. He, in general, looked like a poor version of Laba through much of the second half - even adopted that strange gait every time he charged out. McKendry looked to be the one with all of the MLS experience under his belt; a great debut.
  44. 1 point
    Alex

    June 13 vs Curacao in Montreal

    Pros: 1. Their current ranking is inflated "easy" opponent to gain a lot of points. 2. No large away contingent. 3. Quality prep to remind the team French Guiana needs to be taken seriously. cons: Jonathan de Guzman decides being half Jamaican and playing for the Netherlands means curaçao is a natural fit. So he shows up in our colours, announces his allegiance to curaçao.
  45. 1 point
    MtlMario

    June 13 vs Curacao in Montreal

    Finally. I shall be there.
  46. 1 point
  47. 1 point
    Grizzly

    2016-17 CCL

    The divisions into continents has as much to do with politics as geography. While Africa for example is obviously a separate land mass from Europe, Europe and Asia are a contiguous landmass that is arbitrarily divided at the Ural Mountains (yes there are tectonic plates at mountain ranges but there are many other tectonic plates and the existence of one does not signify a different land mass). Likewise there is no good reason to not include the central American countries as part of North America. I think much of the division is due to it being easier to have poor exploited countries when they are not part of your family. Even Mexico while technically part of North America (probably because at the time of the division it was a wealthier country then it was today) is not really considered by most Canadians or Americans to be North American. It is a lot easier to think about let say Salvadorians as those "Central Americans living in violent poverty stricken countries" then as those "North Americans living in violent poverty stricken countries" because as Central Americans they are not part of our "we". I find it tragic how little contact and mix there is between the other North American countries and Canada and the US other than providing beach resorts and them sending us cheap labour both through the illegal immigration that keeps the US economy afloat and the "legal" cheap labour that keeps both Canada and US farms productive. And to relate this back to soccer, one of the things I love about the CONCACAF Champions League is it is one of the few areas of cultural exchange between Canada and these countries something which I have personally benefitted from. Travelling to the soccer away games exposes you to the countries, the mentality of the people and the reality of life there in a way far more real than going to visit the beach resorts.
  48. 1 point
    Bryce Alderson is going to lead Grand River Union FC to the Bombardier Cup.
  49. 1 point
    No problem to get your coaching license anywhere you can, it is a formality you have to go through. Ireland is as good as anywhere else, IMO. What is more important is experience, and De Vos, in his current role, gets no experience coaching. I understand he has opted for a solid salary over a learning curve to take him into coaching, but still, he really should be looking to be an assistant somewhere for a couple years. Development is not something he is particularly experienced in either, so it is odd for him to start at our "top" job. What is player development anyways? Asking the pro and semi-pro clubs please pretty please?
  50. 1 point
    shermanator

    Vote: CPL cities needed to succeed

    Here's my 8 to start: Victoria Calgary Edmonton Regina Winnipeg Toronto Ottawa Moncton
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