Ivan Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 46 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said: Who's the play by play? She butchers all the Spanish names, can't even pronounce the names of Ballon d'or winners like Bonmatí. I mean, it's just a few names of world football stars, which they complain aren't respected like the men. If you think women's football should be treated better, damn well treat it better. Even Rustad gets that right, tries at least, but can't do basic double ll in Spanish (closer to a y), and calls the Spanish keeper "col" , Spanish for cabbage. Respect? They were saying that a problem is we don't see a lot of the women in their club play to know what they're really like, but it's the same with them, they've never watched a Spanish league game in their lives, even if just to learn pronunciation. Watching the men's final and the British pair get the pronunciations more or less right, even most of the accents (exception: Fermín) Okay, but I really don't give two fucks about how she pronounces Spanish names or knows about the Spanish women's league. As far as Canadian colour commentary goes, I find her the best, especially for the women's games. I wish they would let her do more men's games. Play by play? Anyone but Jenkins for me. Not a fan of the non stop motormouth style and overglorification and of everything that happens in a game. Sorry if this comes off as harsh, bad day. Unnamed Trialist and Kent 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted August 9 Author Share Posted August 9 1 hour ago, Unnamed Trialist said: Who's the play by play? She butchers all the Spanish names, can't even pronounce the names of Ballon d'or winners like Bonmatí. I mean, it's just a few names of world football stars, which they complain aren't respected like the men. If you think women's football should be treated better, damn well treat it better. Even Rustad gets that right, tries at least, but can't do basic double ll in Spanish (closer to a y), and calls the Spanish keeper "col" , Spanish for cabbage. Respect? They were saying that a problem is we don't see a lot of the women in their club play to know what they're really like, but it's the same with them, they've never watched a Spanish league game in their lives, even if just to learn pronunciation. Watching the men's final and the British pair get the pronunciations more or less right, even most of the accents (exception: Fermín) It's Signa Butler who has called over 20 sports for CBC over 20 years. For this Olympics, she has covered soccer, volleyball & judo. Being a jack of all trades is no surprise given CBC's limited budget. But it does mean she is at best average in any sport she covers. She did play soccer at St. Mary's but her cadence is off for the sport. She is also first broadcaster I have heard saying "away" after every corner kick Canada was defending. But at least she doesn't feel the need to talk incessantly. Rustad wanting 16 women teams shows she isn't fully versed on Olympic matters. Every Olympic team sport has 12 or less teams. Men's football is the only exception due it's long standing legacy. Even though FIFA has requested it, IOC doesn't want to increase women's football teams because every other team sport will want a bump. The more likely option is for men's football to be decreased to 12 teams. However, IOC hasn't done it because men's football is one of the top attendance and revenue drivers. Unnamed Trialist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 Oh sorry UT, after Red Card's post I realized you were talking about Butler not Rusted. My apologies. Unnamed Trialist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted August 9 Share Posted August 9 I like Rusted's analysis but she is a bit monotone Unnamed Trialist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 5 hours ago, Ivan said: Oh sorry UT, after Red Card's post I realized you were talking about Butler not Rusted. My apologies. All well...look though, it does matter to pronounce reasonably close, because they are journalists. And I mention players on the World Cup team and Ballon d'Or winners, not unknowns. If you screw up an unknown, understandable, I remember when Azpilicueta signed for Chelsea and he was like doing this video tutorials on how to pronounce his name. Because fans actually cared. Then there are names that are hard, like Paralluelo, not at all easy. The pair of Brits on TSN doing the men's final, a man and a woman, apart from being knowledgeable, judicious, well-balanced, got the names right. It is only a matter of sitting down for 15 minutes and practicing, it is basic professionalism. Butler is a lazy ass, and what's more, she has Rustad sitting beside her getting them mostly right, and she goes and butchers them all the same in the next phrase. Ivan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 5 hours ago, narduch said: I like Rusted's analysis but she is a bit monotone It is her character, she's a bit flat in terms of facial expression as well. But she's smart and a good piece to have on a broadcast. Ivan and narduch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 (edited) It appears that John Herdman will be called to testify on the drone scandal. Herdman is so slippery that his answers will be equally slippery. I feel sorry for Priestman. Edited August 10 by The Ref Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 1 hour ago, The Ref said: I feel sorry for Priestman. It was her watch not Herdman's. She is responsible for what happened under her, no matter how involved she was or wasn't. rkomar, Ivan and YorkRegionFan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 Rusted and Moscato were a good pre-game, halftime, and postgame anslysis pairing at the last WWC especially with their frankness about Canada's struggles at that tourney. I don't normally listen to pbp commentary so I am not sure how Rustad is as colour person. Ivan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 With all the hype around the Hays' revolution, I actually wouldn't be surprised to see an upset here, much to the chagrin of NBC, ESPN, and the Guardian. If the Brazilians can replicate the work rate and determination they displayed vs Spain, they might make something happen but the American defending with Girma leading the way is pretty solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 Brazil had a goal overturned for VAR offside and then a penalty claim not reviewed by VAR 25 mins in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 (edited) However, the track team up top is really dangerous on the counter and had an excellent chance on one play. However, the US is struggling with the ineffectiveness of their back up corner taker: no short corner contingency in theri game plan? Edited August 10 by BearcatSA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 Hard match to watch if you enjoy the technical part of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 Big save by Nahler. The samba ladies have been the better team so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 I see that Maverick is in the stands cheering on the "U-S-A!", which seems appropo since their attack is premised on "the need for speed." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 (edited) First 10 minutes of the second half is featuring a lot of poor from both sides, but then the US break the line and get the opener. Edited August 10 by BearcatSA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 The one thing in Brazil's favour is that they might have some more hop in their steps in the final 20 because the US core has gone 120+ minutes in back to back knockout games. However, they lack craft in their build up attacking sequences and the Americans can just play long punt counter with their superior speed up top, and that's what's happening right now at 65 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 The Brazil keeper needs to be more of a sweeper here to deal with the route ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 A great save preserves the lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 And now American excellence regains hegemony over women's soccer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 11 hours ago, BearcatSA said: With all the hype around the Hays' revolution, I actually wouldn't be surprised to see an upset here, much to the chagrin of NBC, ESPN, and the Guardian... Doubt the Guardian would have been bothered. Olympics soccer usually doesn't receive much attention in the UK given there would have to be a Great Britain team and soccer isn't structured that way. Were they not quite scathing about US soccer during the last women's world cup when there was an England team involved for them to get behind? Maybe the way soccer in North America was being written off at that point was a bit premature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 30 minutes ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: Doubt the Guardian would have been bothered. I saw a number of Guardian articles focused on Hayes with the USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 Guess it may have been the pet hobby horse of a particular journalist hired to provide USA specific content for one of their global editions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 14 minutes ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: Guess it may have been the pet hobby horse of a particular journalist hired to provide USA specific content for one of their global editions. Karen Carney was one of the contributors but the angle of the celebrated and decorated English manager leading the ÙSWNT rennaissance makes for good copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 I think it is safe to say that the Olympics did not really restore American dominance, but reaffirmed how close these top teams really are. Canada included. I suppose if Spain had won that would have been a dominance story, but the real story is that it is very even at the top. And then, how similarly so many are playing, despite supposed claims to the contrary. Neither the physical teams are that physical, direct play really isn't, the more technical sides are not overwhelmingly technical. It is a good moment for women's soccer and I'd predict that we are going to see multiple winners in WCs and Olympics, Euros, over the next few years. rkomar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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